Absolutely.Another great management. Perfect so far.
Woodward will be a tool if he rushes in selecting a new manager before giving Ole a chance till Feb at least. I can't see what Poch will give us more than that now to pay 40m for him.
That in itself is a huge victory. Too many managers have come here over complicating management with their philosophies of football. With all due respect to Sir Alex, he kept things very simple for players to follow to express themselves. As long as Ole can do that it’s a great step forward.Hes not doing anything ground breaking. But hes doing all the obvious stuff, and doing it well.
Players in their positions. Giving players confidence and freedom. Playing with a press and attacking football to hide weakness of defence.
Sounds simple but so far so good. The big tests still to come (Spurs, PSG, etc) but hes putting out teams and using a style that means we are putting away the teams we should.
That in itself is a huge victory. Too many managers have come here over complicating management with their philosophies of football. With all due respect to Sir Alex, he kept things very simple for players to follow to express themselves. As long as Ole can do that it’s a great step forward.
But you’re right, United of old are more than just flat track bullies, need to see how he does against big teams and judge him objectively.
Perhaps I should have been more clear but it's more the intent in the big games more than the result for OGS in his upcoming games, are we going to be able to react to the big teams by attacking ourselves? Or will we resort back to playing cowardly football i.e. Mourinho vs big teams, from that we can get a better picture of what kind of manager he is. Can he make changes to impact our performance?I think it is more than seeing how he does against the big teams. The players are not able to hide behind JM now. From what we see and read he is allowing the team the freedom that they craved so much so it is down to them to deliver. Personally I do not reckon our defence will be up to the challenge when we face the better teams particularly as DDG seems to be having (for him) an average season between the sticks. Mind you I would love to be proved wrong.
With with OGS appointment (even if only temporary) it is more appropriate to say that perhaps we will be able to objectively judge how good our players actually are rather than how good he is.
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Our biggest strength right now is that teams will know that we are gonna have a go at them and will be set slightly defensively. In a top-6 game, if you get the mentality right chances will eventually fall your way. I will happily take it over the mindless defensive philosophy without having a proper set of defenders. Afterall, you have to play to your strengths.Perhaps I should have been more clear but it's more the intent in the big games more than the result for OGS in his upcoming games, are we going to be able to react to the big teams by attacking ourselves? Or will we resort back to playing cowardly football i.e. Mourinho vs big teams, from that we can get a better picture of what kind of manager he is. Can he make changes to impact our performance?
If there are signs that we are playing well despite losing/drawing such as great attacking intent but defensive issues then that should indicate OGS is the right guy but needs some backing. Of course within that, there is another line of naivety that we have to judge objectively as well.
Both posts above are spot on.Perhaps I should have been more clear but it's more the intent in the big games more than the result for OGS in his upcoming games, are we going to be able to react to the big teams by attacking ourselves? Or will we resort back to playing cowardly football i.e. Mourinho vs big teams, from that we can get a better picture of what kind of manager he is. Can he make changes to impact our performance?
If there are signs that we are playing well despite losing/drawing such as great attacking intent but defensive issues then that should indicate OGS is the right guy but needs some backing. Of course within that, there is another line of naivety that we have to judge objectively as well.
Agreed. I think newcastle was always gonna be the hardest of the 4 games, and whilst it did prove to be tricky, he got the subs correct (although throwing on strikers isnt the toughest choice to make, but huge improvement for fans to see).Perhaps I should have been more clear but it's more the intent in the big games more than the result for OGS in his upcoming games, are we going to be able to react to the big teams by attacking ourselves? Or will we resort back to playing cowardly football i.e. Mourinho vs big teams, from that we can get a better picture of what kind of manager he is. Can he make changes to impact our performance?
If there are signs that we are playing well despite losing/drawing such as great attacking intent but defensive issues then that should indicate OGS is the right guy but needs some backing. Of course within that, there is another line of naivety that we have to judge objectively as well.
Yes, I’m really excited for Spurs to see how he sets up.Agreed. I think newcastle was always gonna be the hardest of the 4 games, and whilst it did prove to be tricky, he got the subs correct (although throwing on strikers isnt the toughest choice to make, but huge improvement for fans to see).
The set up in big away games will be interesting (Spurs, PSG...)
That was me in the post match thread. And many other posters implied the same thing. But we don’t know if he learned that lesson though.Some expert somewhere said it, that Solskjær learned a potentially important lesson in the best way possible. The first half was played to perfection, but Poch changed things up at half-time and we had no real response, but we still got away with the win. In the future, he'll hopefully have a couple of alternate plans for when plan A isn't working, or gets countered like on Sunday.
I think it's fair to say Ole won the first half and Pochetino the second. But tbf it was spurs home and they have been playing under Pochetino for a long time and he is obviously an excellent coach and has them playing in a very nice manner all of which contributed to them doing so much better in second half.Felt the first half plan was spot on. We were able to more or less keep Spurs at bay and looked threatening on the counter. Had we worked the counter better, we could have possibly had more goals.
We were very lucky not to concede second half, though.
Plan B was to sub off Pogba or keep him to go for the killer goal. However he went with another plan B which is to switch his wings into defensive wingers in the form of Dalot and Rashford but it was insanely ineffective because our problem was sissoko coming off and spurs turning into having 3 #10 in a hole that is occupied by a slow turning Matic and an occaisonal Herrera with no sign of Pogba.Some expert somewhere said it, that Solskjær learned a potentially important lesson in the best way possible. The first half was played to perfection, but Poch changed things up at half-time and we had no real response, but we still got away with the win. In the future, he'll hopefully have a couple of alternate plans for when plan A isn't working, or gets countered like on Sunday.
That is a very good observation actually. Subbing Rom on made us even more vulnerable as the Belgian lad was neither effective upfront, which allowed Spurs CBs to do whatever they wanted while building their play from the back, nor did he help at the back. And yes, DDG did indeed save Ole the blushes on Sunday.Plan B was to sub off Pogba or keep him to go for the killer goal. However he went with another plan B which is to switch his wings into defensive wingers in the form of Dalot and Rashford but it was insanely ineffective because our problem was sissoko coming off and spurs turning into having 3 #10 in a hole that is occupied by a slow turning Matic and an occaisonal Herrera with no sign of Pogba.
We needed to restructure our 3 CMs but we didn’t. We chopped off our counter with taking off martial and making dalot and Rashford defensive wingers. DDG saves Ole the blushes
Truth. However it started really with Pogba and Lingard not doing their job defensively as well as being very sloppy, lacking composure and cool. Whole team was panicking a bit but we did have a few possibilities to keep the ball but Lingard was involved in wasting a lot of them. Pogba went hiding. If they both could read what was happening around them they could have helped United regain some control. Not a lot Solskjaer could have done differently besides maybe keep Martial on up top instead of Lukaku and changed Lingard with Mata. Matic as CB, Rash and Young wingbacks. Pogba deeper?Plan B was to sub off Pogba or keep him to go for the killer goal. However he went with another plan B which is to switch his wings into defensive wingers in the form of Dalot and Rashford but it was insanely ineffective because our problem was sissoko coming off and spurs turning into having 3 #10 in a hole that is occupied by a slow turning Matic and an occaisonal Herrera with no sign of Pogba.
We needed to restructure our 3 CMs but we didn’t. We chopped off our counter with taking off martial and making dalot and Rashford defensive wingers. DDG saves Ole the blushes
Ole wasn't out thought in the second half, it had more to do with us losing steam & less with change of tactics from Poch. Our team looked visibly tired in the last 25-30 minutes. Pogba and Rashford were running on fumes, and they were our most important attacking outlets in the game.Some expert somewhere said it, that Solskjær learned a potentially important lesson in the best way possible. The first half was played to perfection, but Poch changed things up at half-time and we had no real response, but we still got away with the win. In the future, he'll hopefully have a couple of alternate plans for when plan A isn't working, or gets countered like on Sunday.
Absolutely agree there. I think Pogba and Lingard gassing out didn’t really help Ole in his glimmer of possession retention hope. Mourinho would have dropped Matic in a back 3 and had our CBs mark the 2/3 of the floating #10s and leave Harry Kane on a tight leash to ride out the game. Even though that would have most likely conceded us less chances I actually would have preferred the united way of killing off the game with either silencing the crowd and momentum of spurs by taking control of the ball or actually scoring to end it. I think Ole would have had a better chance of that by subbing Lingard for Mata as Lingard was gassed and mata has a knack for slowing down won games with good ball retention + a good eye for a counter attack pass to martial/Rashford. Lukaku was a horrible decision because he doesn’t even provide target man hold up play these days anyway which also resulted in even more useless turnovers that spurs built on. Mata on Lingard off right wing, Pogba off X midfielder on (energy needed seeing as Pogba not defending at all at this point), and a time wasting sub for the end. Would have given us a better chance at holding the ball around final 1/3 avoiding DDG to go into god mode. Hindsight and a rational mind watching game replays is fun and all... Ole will come good though - he will win most games with his naive approach.Truth. However it started really with Pogba and Lingard not doing their job defensively as well as being very sloppy, lacking composure and cool. Whole team was panicking a bit but we did have a few possibilities to keep the ball but Lingard was involved in wasting a lot of them. Pogba went hiding. If they both could read what was happening around them they could have helped United regain some control. Not a lot Solskjaer could have done differently besides maybe keep Martial on up top instead of Lukaku and changed Lingard with Mata. Matic as CB, Rash and Young wingbacks. Pogba deeper?
Rashford wasn't a defensive winger, he almost never followed Trippier. Dalot came on right after Llorente to make it 3 vs 2 at the back(Young as the third CB). After this moment(84'), Spur created 2 chances. One from a long ball, Llorente knocked it down to Kane, who then shift to his left and shot at the near post. Another was from a cross, Llorente bullied Young to the ground and shot it straight at De Gea.Plan B was to sub off Pogba or keep him to go for the killer goal. However he went with another plan B which is to switch his wings into defensive wingers in the form of Dalot and Rashford but it was insanely ineffective because our problem was sissoko coming off and spurs turning into having 3 #10 in a hole that is occupied by a slow turning Matic and an occaisonal Herrera with no sign of Pogba.
We needed to restructure our 3 CMs but we didn’t. We chopped off our counter with taking off martial and making dalot and Rashford defensive wingers. DDG saves Ole the blushes
12 more left to go! 20LEGENDReminder, 8 games in a row, we haven't gone behind a goal. Ole has never won comeback and equalized the game, he's fraud, get Jose back.
You joke but it will be interesting to see how we react to going a goal down or how we react to having to try a win a game in the dying minutes.Reminder, 8 games in a row, we haven't gone behind a goal. Ole has never won comeback and equalized the game, he's fraud, get Jose back.
He will be throwing a kitchen sink at the other team like SAF used to.You joke but it will be interesting to see how we react to going a goal down or how we react to having to try a win a game in the dying minutes.
In theory yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean we will get the results we want.He will be throwing a kitchen sink at the other team like SAF used to.
Can't people see it now? I mean really. There is nothing really to wonder about it.