Let's see if this persists with Atlanta. For their sake, de Boer has to adapt and develop in terms of preparing his teams. This Atlanta team isn't build for a slow-paced possession game. He has to realise that sooner than later.
He won’t, he’s a shit coachLet's see if this persists with Atlanta. For their sake, de Boer has to adapt and develop in terms of preparing his teams. This Atlanta team isn't build for a slow-paced possession game. He has to realise that sooner than later.
Confusing appointment. They didn't need to rebuild the style/club. They needed continuity.De Boer has completely killed Atlanta. They're a complete mess tactically, they've no idea what they're supposed to be doing.
New York Red Bulls, Seattle Sounders, Real Salt Lake, Sporting KC...maybe Toronto FC or the Whitecaps? That's all I can come up with off the top of my head.Ok, so, I'm just starting to watch MLS now. Any recommendations on who to follow? Good young teams with good footballing approach and philosophy?
TFC of course. But seeing as you live in Texas then Dallas have a really good academy or wait for Austin since they'll be the closest to San Antonio.Ok, so, I'm just starting to watch MLS now. Any recommendations on who to follow? Good young teams with good footballing approach and philosophy?
Let's see if this persists with Atlanta. For their sake, de Boer has to adapt and develop in terms of preparing his teams. This Atlanta team isn't build for a slow-paced possession game. He has to realise that sooner than later.
He won’t, he’s a shit coach
Just got back from the stadium from the Atlanta-Philly game. It was like LVG all over again in the first half. 70 percent possession and no shots. Got a bit better in the second half but FDB needs some new ideas, he's taking knifes and handguns to a war when he has top of the line weapons at his disposal.Confusing appointment. They didn't need to rebuild the style/club. They needed continuity.
If they were shit for a year or two you'd understand this approach.
At the risk of overselling and sounding like a show off, Atlanta United! Best squad in the MLS, many young and upcoming players with a contingent of young south American players, and best stadium in the league, with the highest weekly attendance, 50K home game average. We're already the most valuable team in the MLS and the most hated team because some of our fans are spoiled by early success tbh, but the owners are very, very ambitious. If that sort of thing appeals to you.Ok, so, I'm just starting to watch MLS now. Any recommendations on who to follow? Good young teams with good footballing approach and philosophy?
Its a sad thing thats happening over there. No excuses really, as you mentioned, Chicago is a huuuge market, third biggest and most populated city in the states. I remember when Atlanta had one pro soccer team, the Silverbacks. They had a small and dedicated following but that was USL. Chicago fire might as well be a USL team.Chicago Fire, my local team, has to be the most miserable fecking franchise in MLS. Shite stadium in the middle of nowhere, arsehole owners, arrogant and aloof relationship with the local community; and a perennially appalling squad. This last weekend they lost 4-2 at home to Seattle, with a whopping attendance of 10k. And I swear even that number was inflated. Last year the average gate was 14k, which would put them 19th in the EFL Championship for attendances. The greater Chicago area has a population of 9.5 million. The Fire’s average gate is equal to that of Preston (141k) or Barnsley (96k). 30% of the population is Latino, and their primary sport is football.
How, just how, can a “soccer” franchise fail so fecking badly in a market this big, and so demographically suited? To put it in perspective, I had more people play and watch soccer in my indoor facility here in 2018, than the Fire had visit their stadium. And we are about 20 minutes away.
Totally clueless, hopeless wankers. Also, they just pipped Utd to the signing of Nicolas Gaitan, on a free from China.
With the exception of Atlanta (50k) and Seattle (41k), MLS attendances are pretty much on a par with the Championship. Which shows two contrasting things really. (1) that progress has definitely been made with the popularity of the game in this country, and (2) just how incredibly well attended football is in England. When the third largest team (by attendance) in MLS (TFC) would rank 7th in the Championship against teams with tiny populations compared to their American counterparts; it shows how remarkably popular football is across England.
Red Bulls play a high press game and are very academy focused bringing in lots of talents from the academy.Ok, so, I'm just starting to watch MLS now. Any recommendations on who to follow? Good young teams with good footballing approach and philosophy?
Out of curiosity, why is it that Atlanta aren't integrating some of their more local talents like Carleton, Kunga, Bello, or Vazquez? I do know that, in the first team, most of your more local young players are draft picks (Robinson and Gressel) whilst the rest come from South America (Villalba, Remedi, Almiron, Barco). Carleton himself is a very good local player, but he's barely getting any minutes. Kunga has shown some promise in his USL performances but rarely gets appearances. Vazquez is similar to Kunga in that respect. Bello had a great debut but hasn't gotten too many appearances afterwards. Whilst players like Carleton and Bello are more forgiveable given their ages, it's still interesting that Bocanegra would rather have older players on the bench along with foreign imports instead of some of those younger players.I like to liken us more to Man utd, focus on youth with an attacking ethos.
To add on to this, @Hoof The Ball, Philadelphia Union also have a great youth setup. Their affiliate team, Bethlehem Steel, play some great football, and several of their young players get called up into the first team. To complement that, they have a big-name player in Marco Fabian in their team as well.New York Red Bulls, Seattle Sounders, Real Salt Lake, Sporting KC...maybe Toronto FC or the Whitecaps? That's all I can come up with off the top of my head.
Vasquez was behind in fitness, and he's been playing for Atlanta United 2. Kunga will get his chance, De Boer is an admirer. Bello played in the CONCACAF CL against Herediano and Carleton has played twice this season, including last night's game against Philadelphia Union, coming on early in the second half.Out of curiosity, why is it that Atlanta aren't integrating some of their more local talents like Carleton, Kunga, Bello, or Vazquez? I do know that, in the first team, most of your more local young players are draft picks (Robinson and Gressel) whilst the rest come from South America (Villalba, Remedi, Almiron, Barco). Carleton himself is a very good local player, but he's barely getting any minutes. Kunga has shown some promise in his USL performances but rarely gets appearances. Vazquez is similar to Kunga in that respect. Bello had a great debut but hasn't gotten too many appearances afterwards. Whilst players like Carleton and Bello are more forgiveable given their ages, it's still interesting that Bocanegra would rather have older players on the bench along with foreign imports instead of some of those younger players.
With de Boer in, I would expect him to play some of the younger players eventually, but will he even get the chance to do so?
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While I would love to see it, it will never happen. As long as the MLS is making money on franchise fees ($150 million to join the league), they can't very well collect 150 million only to relegate the team the next season.Tweet
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Laudrup did give him high praise when he was at Swansea, so he had some slight potential in him. Unfortunately, he never fit into Swansea and then became a journeyman as a result. Oh well, I'm glad we still got him.I looked up this Pozuelo fella after seeing his goals. Thinking he must be a prodigal young talent from South America. But instead find out he's a 27 year old Spanish journey man signed from Genk. Funny old league.
I talk to another NYRB fan who is starting to realise problems with the FO, but he thinks that Armas isn't necessarily the issue. From what I can see of the squad, you guys are badly missing a defensive midfielder to offer you some stability.I told everyone last season. Armas is a TERRIBLE coach. I can't understand how he became a coach and signing him as Jesse March permanent replacement was lazy and outright stupid. 95% of ALL of last season success was Jesse. The remaining 5% was the players. Armas piggy backed on his predecessors success.
Also the board gets blame too. Getting young academy players is a great idea and I love it BUT you have to mix it with quality. Buy down BWP to TAM ( he is not DP material anymore) and sign THREE QUALITY DP players! it is not that hard. You have the market and are a great franchise.
Jesus Christ.
5 clubs isn't exactly journeyman, it's average.I looked up this Pozuelo fella after seeing his goals. Thinking he must be a prodigal young talent from South America. But instead find out he's a 27 year old Spanish journey man signed from Genk. Funny old league.
We do need a DM but that's the least of our worries at the moment the FO and Armas are too blame and Armas is not a coach he is not cut out for it. Absolutely clueless man who will get sacked sooner rather than later.Laudrup did give him high praise when he was at Swansea, so he had some slight potential in him. Unfortunately, he never fit into Swansea and then became a journeyman as a result. Oh well, I'm glad we still got him.
I talk to another NYRB fan who is starting to realise problems with the FO, but he thinks that Armas isn't necessarily the issue. From what I can see of the squad, you guys are badly missing a defensive midfielder to offer you some stability.
Victor Vazquez was playing in Mexico, right?5 clubs isn't exactly journeyman, it's average.
He was also one of the best players in the Belgian league, a league better than MLS. I don't get what's funny about targeting the best players in the Belgian League. We did it with Victor Vazquez and now Poz and we heavily scouted Hanni as well. It's a good league which is perfect for scouting top players for the MLS.
He was in Mexico, yes.Victor Vazquez was playing in Mexico, right?
MLS teams really need to scout better defenders. The bulk of MLS teams have a mostly American defense, and it shows. The defending is all-around awful.
Haha no he's not. That's Diallo or Raitala.He was in Mexico, yes.
Also, it doesn't really matter where the defenders are from. Montréal's starting defence, for example, only consists of one American (former TFC player Dan Lovitz), and he's arguably their best player out of the back line. Defenders and midfielders both in MLS are just poor, defensively. The fact that players like Bradley, Piette, and Diego Chara are standout defensive midifelders says it all.