We have Ashley Young at RB, Jones/Rojo as CBs, De Gea's future is uncertain, Pogba is also uncertain, we have no RW, two inconsistent strikers and our best forward Martial has been struggling with injuries. We have not appointed a DOF and the summer window will more then likely be a joke again. The above is definitely a bigger challenge then getting rid of a lad on 350k a week.
Woodward's summer objectives
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"It's only March". I remember that line from last year. Followed by "It's only April" then May, June, July etc, before the inevitable moment of realisation that nothing substantial is going to happen and those same posters were then outraged by it all.
I get that its early days, but let's not forget the sheer incompetence we've seen these last few years. United supporters have every reason to be concerned going into a summer that may well define our foreseeable future.
I get that its early days, but let's not forget the sheer incompetence we've seen these last few years. United supporters have every reason to be concerned going into a summer that may well define our foreseeable future.
Another day another big club make a significant signing - Hernandez to Bayern for £65m
Remember we ‘only’ spent £67m last summer and should have at least £100m + whatever the budget is for summer ‘19
I personally couldn’t care WHEN we sign players but if we get to August 9th and we haven’t signed at least £150m worth of players then that’s the very last time I will ever allow any argument giving Woodward any semblance of the benefit of the doubt
Remember we ‘only’ spent £67m last summer and should have at least £100m + whatever the budget is for summer ‘19
I personally couldn’t care WHEN we sign players but if we get to August 9th and we haven’t signed at least £150m worth of players then that’s the very last time I will ever allow any argument giving Woodward any semblance of the benefit of the doubt
Have little expectations from this man, he is a banker at a footballing job. Think he will run after bale/umtiti and when they remain injured he ll sack manager after manager. Ideally if he fails this summer, he should be given only finance/marketing role rather than footballing side but the guys making that decision are even more clueless than him. They ll probably think woodward is genius if we reach top 4 this season and will ask more of the same as that is what matters to them. Look at the way bayern are run and look at the fool we have. Agents and players fleece us, while half injured players look at us with tears in their eyes to provide them their retirement salary. Shambles is an understatement .
I'm not one to panic but I expect a summer or his silly briefs and very little business in a summer in which we should go all out in transfers.
I have a feeling the club is on sale which explains why we are taking ages to commit to anything
Although it's repeating the obvious, the main impediment to the club going forward and making appointments and signings is, Ed " we can do things other dream of" Woodward, no more signings for media clicks and after reading LVG, it's a business club not a football club, we should have real doubts that things are going to change.
When the CEO is rewarded more for share price and profit, than the performance of the football club, that's not a recipe for on field success. Until Teflon Ed has less influence on the football operations then it feels like the status quo will coninue.
Move over Ed and allow the football side of things to prosper, your decisions have been lacklustre and the biggest club in the world has fallen dramatically below Loserpool and Citeh, who would have thought.
When the CEO is rewarded more for share price and profit, than the performance of the football club, that's not a recipe for on field success. Until Teflon Ed has less influence on the football operations then it feels like the status quo will coninue.
Move over Ed and allow the football side of things to prosper, your decisions have been lacklustre and the biggest club in the world has fallen dramatically below Loserpool and Citeh, who would have thought.
I have the exact same feeling and I suspect whoever is looking to buy could be waiting or negotiation on the outcome of us qualifying for the champions league, the Glazers won’t want Woody to spend if we can qualify and then for them ask a higher price for the club and perhaps whoever is interested or negotiating is asking them to wait i.e. DOF.
Or It could just be a case of Glazer tightarseness and Woodward feckwittery.
You'll expect United to move quickly in the transfer market as Barca, Bayern and Juve has been doing. After all we have a tighter transfer deadline and more positions to strengthen then them. Instead nothing is happening. Rumours about the DOF had died out, ole has yet to be made permanent, we are dragging our feet regarding players contracts.
Now its either a matter of gross incompetence or the club is set to be sold
Naaahhh, it was meant to fix ALL our problems judging by posts in the CAF.
You’re right but I don’t expect United to move quickly on anything these days especially where money and the clubs best interests are concerned, I just hope they move quickly when/if an acceptable/ridiculous offer comes in.
If what we're thinking is true that the club won't be taking any major decisions whatsoever. They will be negotiating a deal with a deadline in mind to when they would either say yes to the deal offered at that point in time or no. Once that deadline day is reached then Id expect the club to go full speed ahead with the changes made. If the club is still in the Glazers family hands then I'd expect them to confirm Ole as permanent manager, appoint a DOF and sign 3-4 signings.
You could be right on all points, either way things might just get interesting over the coming months, personally I’m hoping for a sale to someone with a strong interest in the club and it’s success on the field and not just off the field but it’s going to take someone with bloody deep pockets.
Haha I just love social media fans who think football was invented at the same time Twitter was, FA Cup not a major trophy, things like the Cup Winners Cup, Hughes scoring that goal against Barcelona in Holland, one of our great nights in our history, doesn't count because it wasn't the league or Champions League, insane thinking
If that is his point then he should have said that shouldn't he, to say we have not won a major trophy in 6 years is simply wrong.
Hold on, winning the Europa League & League Cup, qualifying for the Champions League, that was not a successful season? Jesus get off Twitter and back to the real bloody world lad, just because we are Man United does not give us some divine right to win everything every year.
That's the modern football fan, if they don't value any of these competitions let them crack on, if they want to improve their balance sheet with a top four finish rather than winning trophies, I actually feel sorry for them and I am extremely happy that I grew up in a world where getting to finals, fighting for all trophies available, going to Wembley was the biggest buzz ever, winning doubles fighting for everything, loving FA Cup semi finals at Villa Park etc.
Loved it all, the modern football fan scares me, sod a cup I want to be the 4th best team in England so we can blow 100m on the next Argie flop who is picking up his wage packet and does not give a toss about the club.
Thrilling, I get what you mean, but for me it is a sorry state of affairs at the minute
Anyone affording United will have deep pockets
This summer is important for lots of big teams. Madrid, Barca, and Bayern are all trying to build their next great sides (have already made some agreements too). Unfortunately our board have 0 ambition so we will have a window like last year.
DOF please.
Probably getting rid of Sanchez.
A bit of a pessimistic view.
We have a proven goal machine (Lukaku) who looks like he’s coming out of his slump.
Two of the most promising young attacking talents in the league in Martial and Rashford, with more coming through the academy.
Potentially the most inform centre back pairing in the league since Jan 2019, and it’s clear that we are going to improve on this area.
Dalot is showing promise.
Pogba looks likely to remain for at least another season.
We have finally appointed a manager who plays positive football and have made significant ground in the table to be in a strong position for top 4 place.
We are probably a winger and centre back away from being top 3 squad. Add a top midfielder and rightback and we could easily challenge for everything.
Sign players and sign them fast.
Don’t feck around waiting till end of July or August. All I want is a summer where we have signed players by mid June.
Don’t feck around waiting till end of July or August. All I want is a summer where we have signed players by mid June.
I think we are talking about different things here. The point is that most United fans do care about winning trophies and watching good football and if the team tries to achieve this, win or lose, the fans generally will be satisfied.
The problem is Woodward and the Glazers. They are the ones who only care about getting top four, profit, big name players etc. The fact is we have incompetent and greedy people running the club. Surely you would rather have competent and ambitious people running the club? As you would for any business or society?
...or deep barrels of oil.
Maybe this is excessively optimistic, but I consider a title challenge a serious possibility, even a probability, for next season. I'm convinced Liverpool will experience a dip next season even if they do win the league, and no other top 6 side besides City is even remotely prepared for a title challenge.
A few good signings plus further improvement/development from the core young players we currently have (Pogba, Rashford, Lindelof, Martial, etc), and I think challenging City next season is realistically within our grasp.
A few good signings plus further improvement/development from the core young players we currently have (Pogba, Rashford, Lindelof, Martial, etc), and I think challenging City next season is realistically within our grasp.
All I know is while I already do hate Ed and the Glazer's I will never fecking forgive them if they don't back Ole to the heavens in this transfer market.
Anything less than 3 or 4 starters would be setting him up to fail and we cannot have that be done to one of our own.
Anything less than 3 or 4 starters would be setting him up to fail and we cannot have that be done to one of our own.
I thought the exact same thing last season. We were on fire at the beginning of the season but teams adapted to us having no right side and being reliant on counter attacks. We ended up getting two unproven players and a retiring goalkeeper.
Teams have adapted to our new tactics under Ole and our team is tiring from injuries/fast paced gameplan. What indication is there that we will get good signings in the summer?
We need to offload players no longer in our plans .
We need to add quality and hunger to our first XI...
I like the idea of Declan Rice, Wan Bissaka, Harry Maguire and Sancho. Would give us what we need. I would also go for De Ligt.
A cheeky bid for Eriksen from Spurs may also be a wise move to link up midfield with Attack, Ole is massive fan.
If we ship out Mata, Sanchez, darmian, valencia ,,,also be good
We need to add quality and hunger to our first XI...
I like the idea of Declan Rice, Wan Bissaka, Harry Maguire and Sancho. Would give us what we need. I would also go for De Ligt.
A cheeky bid for Eriksen from Spurs may also be a wise move to link up midfield with Attack, Ole is massive fan.
If we ship out Mata, Sanchez, darmian, valencia ,,,also be good
Yeah that's key for me too. Otherwise we have to buy 7 top class players this summer... being optimistic I would say having Ole in charge will lead to proper coaching for the forwards, which we haven't had since Fergie. Hopefully that will get them to kick on.
Side note: I watched highlights from Martial's debut season yesterday and I had forgotten how energetic and tenacious he was, really hope he can get that back as he has played very 'safe' this season on the left. We need him to beat his man and put crosses in like Sane / Mane. Also Shaw needs to contribute more going forward.
Ed's main objective is to open the Glazer's chequebook for the next 3 windows!European major teams are already announcing 'done deals'.we need to start getting our proposed signings over the finishing line soonest.
Yeah that goes without saying, Woodward drives me absolutely insane with his amateurish running of the club, no DOF appointed yet which just seems mental, the strategy with signing players, giving anyone mental wages etc., it goes on and on and on.
I would give my right nut for David Gill to be back in charge, he has left his position at the FA or UEFA, can't remember where he was but I would do my utmost to get him back.
Everyone hates the way the club is run, agree with all that my point was nothing other than League or Champions League seem to matter to anyone anymore, rather finish top 4 to keep that balance sheet ticking off than creating memories and winning trophies, does my tits in.
Remember the days where you just went to win everything, challenge for the league, fight for every competition, when you could actually finish in the top 4 and win an FA Cup whereas now it seems to be one or the other.
Well apart from City who seem to get the jist, we all need to catch up and realise every competition matters and they are major trophies.
Woody is saving money, as we saw in the last 3 transfer windows (net spend). He'll do whatever it takes to spend as little as possible while maintaining top 4. Top 4 is the only thing he seems to care about.
Jose called him out, last Summer and made Woody look like a gimp. Unfortunately, Woodward won't be changing his ways. If/when Sokjaer fails to get top 4, he'll get the sack and another manager will be employed to be the fall guy.
Woodward's summer objective is to hire a Director of Football and have no further summer objectives.
He can go and find a new mouthwash sponsor if he gets bored.
He can go and find a new mouthwash sponsor if he gets bored.
Don't you think there will be a breaking point with the fans though? I know they don't care about the opinions of fans, but they do care about keeping up appearances, as it creates the illusion of a well functioning club. If fans start protesting en masse they will have to respond in some way.
Ed feels like a king now because Ole has done well and fans mostly are happy. But if he doesn't back him and results turn next season, I think anger will turn to him / the Glazers not Ole. The previous 3 managers all had fans on their back which deflected a lot of blame from Ed, I don't see that happening with Ole. Or maybe I'm giving too much credit to our fans...
Giving to much credit to the fans. When the media/fans start putting some heat on Woody/Glazers, then the "Man Utd set to appoint a DoF/Man Utd set to make major changes/Man Utd set to professionalize etc" stories comes. Then nothing changes, the fans forget about it and the cycle starts again.
Most fans still think that the owners wants to win the league. Glazers wants maximum economical return with the minimum of the clubs money spent. This translates into;
- Get top 4 with the minimum investment needed.
Have to agree with this. Now that Ole is confirmed as our manager it’s time to get the ball rolling. Our lack of business last summer is concerning and hopefully we implement a more effective recruiting approach this time.
Lukaku is a goal machine but he has always scored in patches. To win a title you need a consistent striker. Lukaku is not that guy, I hope he develops consistency but it doesn't seem likely.
I agree on the young talents. However, when is the last time a team won the title with a 21 and 23 year old up front, especially if we add Sancho. To win a title you need players at their peaks. The only players at their peak or coming into their peaks who are good enough are Pogba, De Gea, Lindelof, Martial and Shaw.
I back Ole 100%. However, its the board who need to back him. Not in one transfer window but in multiple. Jose got this squad to 2nd and they signed Grant, Fred and Dalot. When in reality we needed Griezmann and Alderweireld on top of that.
We need a winger and a CB. Both are priorities. However, I would argue we need two fullbacks. Valencia and Darmian are both leaving. Shaw is inconsistent in fitness, if he gets injured we will have Young at LB again which disrupts the balance of the team. We need a RB and a LB and Young can be fifth choice. The squad lacks depth for me, and CB is the area we have depth in and is full of average players. A midfielder is needed, one that can provide creativity. Without Pogba we cannot break teams down. Matic is also worn down and we may need a DM as well. Therefore, someone who can play both roles like Ndombele or Neves is crucial. We need 2-3 transfer windows before we will challenge, and we need to keep our only world class players in De Gea and Pogba. That is no small task for Ole.
I dont want galacticos and big names flooding in.
I want to see United do what they do best, and find the best up and coming talent, and push them onto the next level.
We might need one or two experienced heads if the likes of De Gea and Pogba are at risk of moving on, but we've been horrendously poor in recruiting players for so long now. It's time to restructure and make it work.
I want to see United do what they do best, and find the best up and coming talent, and push them onto the next level.
We might need one or two experienced heads if the likes of De Gea and Pogba are at risk of moving on, but we've been horrendously poor in recruiting players for so long now. It's time to restructure and make it work.
Absolutely, been thinking it myself. Don't understand the people saying this. Just look at the other top clubs in Europe. Bayern have been going after their summer targets for months now. Same with Barca. Juve are always looking for a deal. They demand constant improvement despite their success. We need that.
Is Pereira really deadwood?