Changes in CL format

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• Changes after 2024
• No qualifying after 2024, closed competition
• Under the four-groups-of-eight idea, the ECA has proposed a promotion and relegation system, which would effectively make it into a European super league.
  
  
• The 24 clubs who finish in the top six of each group would automatically qualify for the next year’s competition, meaning that the rest of Europe’s clubs would be competing for only eight spots.

 

[groovyalbert]

Probably the smoothest segway towards a European league, but we'd lose more of the only exciting part of the Champions League.

 

[AgentP]

Looks like a terrible idea to have only 8 new spots every year but will have to read more on it to make an informed opinion

 

[adexkola]

They can feck off.

And this is why non-champions need to be kicked out. Teams finishing 4th getting too big for their britches.

 

[VorZakone]

They can feck off.

And this is why non-champions need to be kicked out. Teams finishing 4th getting too big for their britches.

Why would you want non-champions kicked out?

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

They can badge it anyway they want... it's heading to a European Super League (the only thing that would stop me watching United).

 

[adexkola]

Why would you want non-champions kicked out?

Of the Champions League?

 

[Cal?]

They can feck off.

And this is why non-champions need to be kicked out. Teams finishing 4th getting too big for their britches.

Much more fun watching the champions of Lithuania or whoever than the 2nd placed team from Spain.

 

[Thisistheone]

Shit news.

Greedy bastards.

 

[Nick7]

That's a terrible idea.

 

[adexkola]

Much more fun watching the champions of Lithuania or whoever than the 2nd placed team from Spain.

Yeah exactly.

 

[Raw]

I don't like this at all.

 

[adexkola]

Actually, this idea should progress. The sooner the big clubs feck off, the sooner the rest of football can move on with a more egalitarian structure.

And national FAs should let these big clubs know that it's a one way ticket to this Euroleague nonsense. When it doesn't work for you, go back to the bottom of the pyramid and be compliant with financial restrictions.

 

[Cal?]

Yeah exactly.

Suit yourself, don't make the rest of us join you.

Actually, this idea should progress. The sooner the big clubs feck off, the sooner the rest of football can move on with a more egalitarian structure.

And national FAs should let these big clubs know that it's a one way ticket to this Euroleague nonsense. When it doesn't work for you, go back to the bottom of the pyramid and be compliant with financial restrictions.

It's almost cute that you think the national FAs have more sway than the mega clubs.

 

[Stookie]

Another nail in the coffin of football for me. Year on year I’m watching less and less of it.

 

[adexkola]

Suit yourself, don't make the rest of us join you.

It's almost cute that you think the national FAs have more sway than the mega clubs.

You don't half bend over for the ECA eh?

Football is much bigger than the G20 buddy.

 

[Cal?]

You don't half bend over for the ECA eh?

Football is much bigger than the G20 buddy.

And what does that have to do with your previous suggestion?

 

[Dolf]

How about we stop making changes like this and start focusing on oil clubs and racism instead...

 

[adexkola]

And what does that have to do with your previous suggestion?

Nothing.

 

[redshaw]

Could be good for the so called top six in the Premier League.

If you can hold your own in the new CL format you get to stay even if you finish 5th in your own country's league I take it. United might finish 5-6, or even Spurs but both teams are good enough to get to a quarter final and Spurs disposed of Germany's second team with ease. I look at La Liga points total for the top 6 and the Premier League's and it's alarming just how low the points are down from the top 2 in Spain.

I wonder is there a limit of teams from one country though? lets say the PL continues to grow and gets a top 8, could in theory 8 English teams stay in the new CL format?

I'd think it would be wrong to say lets allow the top 5 or 6 places in each league around Europe to enter the Champions League but if this new format is more merit based it can adapt with the cycles. In 5-10 years time we might see for example the PL as a top 3 and La Liga as a top six.

The other way would be if lets say you have top teams coming fifth in their own league, they could get a wild card or qualifying match for the CL.

 

[Camilo]

I sort of don't care.. The last few years I've started to find it all a bit tedious. The same old European games, the same old "big" domestic "clashes"... I think it wasn't for the chaos of post Fergie I might've taken a step back entirely.

I don't think more European matches can improve things though, or a European league, or any of that nonsense... But something new and interesting would help. A Chinese style "maximum of four foreigners per squad" kind of thing... If you're going to do European football, make it interesting FFS. Make it England vs Spain, not the current multicultural bore fest it's become.

 

[andyox]

Suit yourself, don't make the rest of us join you.

It's almost cute that you think the national FAs have more sway than the mega clubs.

The fact that there are "mega clubs" and that they have more power than national FAs is exactly what's wrong with the game.

Greed, greed, and more greed.

 

[Red00012]

Wont somebody please think of the children

 

[TwoSheds]

I sort of don't care.. The last few years I've started to find it all a bit tedious. The same old European games, the same old "big" domestic "clashes"... I think it wasn't for the chaos of post Fergie I might've taken a step back entirely.

I don't think more European matches can improve things though, or a European league, or any of that nonsense... But something new and interesting would help. A Chinese style "maximum of four foreigners per squad" kind of thing... If you're going to do European football, make it interesting FFS. Make it England vs Spain, not the current multicultural bore fest it's become.

feck England. We're Mancunian and two of our biggest legends were French, many more from Scotland, Northern Ireland, Ireland and Scandinavia. If a player is English, British or Martian I don't care if they embody what the spirit and passion of the club is about.

 

[Havak]

Seems like a way to keep the bigger names in the Champion's League all the time? But surely some form of rule would have to be in place to knock teams down a peg...

eg. What if top four one season is Man City, Liverpool, Tottenham, Arsenal for the first qualification to this new process. They all manage to finish top 6 in their groups for numerous years in a row. Man Utd and Chelsea overtake Tottenham and Arsenal in the Premier League for years in a row but never get into the Champion's League because Tottenham and Arsenal never drop out of it.

How is this good? Especially when Man Utd and Chelsea are bigger commercial draws than Tottenham for instance.

 

[giorno]

Actually, this idea should progress. The sooner the big clubs feck off, the sooner the rest of football can move on with a more egalitarian structure.

And national FAs should let these big clubs know that it's a one way ticket to this Euroleague nonsense. When it doesn't work for you, go back to the bottom of the pyramid and be compliant with financial restrictions.

You seriously believe this wouldn't work out?

Also football never had an egalitarian structure. It's never going to move in that direction. ECA members are the ones with the fans and thus the money, and that's not going to change

 

[giorno]

The fact that there are "mega clubs" and that they have more power than national FAs is exactly what's wrong with the game.

Greed, greed, and more greed.

Sure. But they got to that point organically(well, most of them, and the ones who didn't yet soon will as well). Those megaclubs aren't kidnapping people off the streets and brainwashing them to become fans

 

[Cloud7]

Boring

 

[giorno]

Wont somebody please think of the children

The children are United fans. They don't give a rats arse about poor Burnley

 

[GoalsGetGirls]

Would destroy domestic football imo. There wouldn’t be a top 4 race like we’re engrossed in now and clubs would rest players more for Europe.

 

[Adam-Utd]

The rich get richer. Don't see why any teams should be automatically guaranteed anything.

 

[12OunceEpilogue]

feck this shit

I sort of don't care.. The last few years I've started to find it all a bit tedious. The same old European games, the same old "big" domestic "clashes"... I think it wasn't for the chaos of post Fergie I might've taken a step back entirely.

I don't think more European matches can improve things though, or a European league, or any of that nonsense... But something new and interesting would help. A Chinese style "maximum of four foreigners per squad" kind of thing... If you're going to do European football, make it interesting FFS. Make it England vs Spain, not the current multicultural bore fest it's become.

Maybe the big clubs all split their squads so they play only British players in the domestic league and only foreign players in the CL (Irish can play where they want, why not). That could be interesting, a horrible bloody mess, but an interesting one.

 

[willhse456]

Does this mean there wouldn't be knockouts anymore? When that happens that will be the death of the Champions League.

 

[Guy Incognito]

Horrible idea. Knockouts are necessary, the same big clubs playing each other every season (not to mention each preseason) would be disastrous.

 

[OohAahMartial]

They really have no clue at all, blinded by greed.

Different topic, but a question just occurred to me, if there is a no deal Brexit, does our FA leave UEFA and the EPL lose CL access? Or unrelated?

 

[TsuWave]

terrible idea.

 

[TsuWave]

A Chinese style "maximum of four foreigners per squad" kind of thing... If you're going to do European football, make it interesting FFS. Make it England vs Spain, not the current multicultural bore fest it's become.

wtf. so you want international football at club level?

 

[adexkola]

You seriously believe this wouldn't work out?

Also football never had an egalitarian structure. It's never going to move in that direction. ECA members are the ones with the fans and thus the money, and that's not going to change

Nah.

Ok.

 

[youngrell]

Much more fun watching the champions of Lithuania or whoever than the 2nd placed team from Spain.

Of course we like to see the big boys up against each other, but it has also started to become too boring/predictable with the same teams meeting over and over, and I'm getting quite sick of the race for top 4 too.

Going back to Champions only will not only give small teams a possibility of getting a little deeper into the competition, improving their situation, but it could also improve competition in the domestic leagues as nobody is settling for 4th place finish each year. It would also improve the Europa League as it will inevitably have stronger teams.

There are quite a few positives to going back to the old format. The biggest negative for everyone involved is loss of money for the big boys, but boo hoo for them.

 

[D4X73r]

Well 8 places for the rest of europe (outside the top 5 leagues) to compete. What could go wrong with this?