14 groups games? My god that sounds tedious.
Changes in CL format
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
What a crap idea.
There used to be two group stages, plus qualifying.
Had Leeds got to the final in 2001, or Liverpool in 2002, or United in 2003, they'd have played 19 games.
This 14 game group phase, plus Quarters, Semis and a Final would also be 19 games
You think that's even a possibility?
I remember when my club got to the QF of CL. Stuff like that will never ever happen again. Smaller nations and clubs are getting squeezed out and hang to dry bit by bit.
David vs Goliath won't happen in the future, and it is a real shame. Redbull London vs Coca Cola Madrid at Nike stadium in 2045 Adidas Euroleague finals. The ref will of course be a AI computer and 50% of the match will be commercials.
David vs Goliath won't happen in the future, and it is a real shame. Redbull London vs Coca Cola Madrid at Nike stadium in 2045 Adidas Euroleague finals. The ref will of course be a AI computer and 50% of the match will be commercials.
Remember when you used to qualify from your group of 4 to end up in another group of 4.
Those were the days.
Those were the days.
I think they're running the show...
Great idea. We should be playing teams like Barca and Real every season not once every 5 years.
Salah was offside.
Another decision goes the dippers way.
Another decision goes the dippers way.
Good craig
Why would the ECA, that represents 232 European Clubs, propose a closed competition for 32 of its members.
To create a new, more democratic governance model that truly reflects the key role of the clubs
To create a new, more democratic governance model that truly reflects the key role of the clubs
As they rightly should be. I fail to see what any PL club stands to gain from any of these super league ideas. The PL already makes much more money than the rest of them, with numbers that keep going up. I don’t understand why the PL would want to join a venture where the only real benefit is for non English clubs to get more money.
And let’s be honest, any of these European super league ideas need the English teams to gain any traction.
Meh. Football is dying anyway.
Welcome to the real world where individual companies have more power than state government (eg Amazon 2nd HQ).
Why should football be different?
PSG will probably be delighted with this, makes their quest to win the CL so so much easier.
The biggest negative is the huge drop in the number of glamour ties in the CL, and that's a loss for all football fans.
I refer you to Amazon being a bitch and pulling out of New York. Let me guess. You think New York will collapse as a result.
The Lithuanian champions FK Sūduva did actually get a place in the CL qualifying round, they made it to round 2 and lost 5-0 on agg to Crvena Zvezda.
They actually did get a place and lost in a pure knockout round just as you advocate, what are you complaining about?
Is that why Cuomo has almost been begging Bezos to reconsider?
I refer you to Amazon being a bitch and pulling out of New York. Let me guess. You think New York will collapse as a result.
If you don't favor the big company, they will just go elsewhere.
If you don't have a CL that's favorable to mega clubs, they will also go elsewhere.
Cuomo doesn't count, otherwise Bezos would have his way. He didn't though, and left like a bitch. City still thriving.
Let's not get further away from the CL and into the Amazon HQ2 issue.
The point is, if the CL reverts to the old EC format, the mega clubs will simply leave and set up shop somewhere else, much like Amazon not going to NY.
I doubt the CL will thrive without the original G14.
The rich want to get richer and prevent other people from getting rich. Just like real life.
This is actually a great poster scouting thread.
Only quoting your last part, but brilliant post all of it!
I agree. Get back to the old format. Winners in the European Cup, the rest of the best in Uefa Cup, and cupwinners in the Cupwinners Cup. No seeding, knockout all the way. Three different cups, all of them with prestige.
I know it aint gonna happen because of the money involved, but one can dream. Why have we allowed money to be the main factor on how football is structured?
Yes. I kind of expected this from the english clubs tbh. Just stand firm on this. No way it will happen without England participating in it.
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They got a place to try to get a place. What am I complaining about when some loser #4 gets in without any pre-rounds?
Are you dense, or just pretending to be?
No one wants to watch Schalke vs Deportivo Ping Pong.
Well the username is sort of apt.
We're absolutely smothered in money in our format right now, so it certainly wouldn't make sense. Still, it is good to hear this.
It's because we play them so infrequently, that it becomes a special game.
Talk to Chelsea about PSG when they used to draw them regularly. It became dull.
Well just fyi before moneyball teams from "lesser leagues" were actually pretty great.Much more fun watching the champions of Lithuania or whoever than the 2nd placed team from Spain.
Plus it eliminates the whole "top 4" shite and makes the other european competition mean more, which is a good thing.
If they struggle to even get through qualifying, what's the point of giving them a full round 1 place?
Now you want the bigger European leagues to do what? Give away their TV revenue to the smaller leagues?
Destroy the Champions League to make the Europa League better. What a ridiculous idea.
Yeah right. Because if your team doesn’t play the G14, then you won’t support your team in another league?
Have you noticed that people watch football teams in domestic leagues that don’t have the G14?
Yes?
The only reason there is focus on the “big teams” is the numbers of domestic viewers in the competition those are from. The only reason the CL has more teams from these competitions is to ensure more of those people watch, because they DIDN’T WATCH WHEN THEIR TEAM WASN’T PARTICIPATING.
No, the focus on the big teams is the number of fans those teams themselves have.
You’re fighting a losing fight in here, but you are spot on. I totally agree with you in matters like these.
Champions League - no peasants allowed.
Selective reading at its finest. What a ridiculous post.If they struggle to even get through qualifying, what's the point of giving them a full round 1 place?
Now you want the bigger European leagues to do what? Give away their TV revenue to the smaller leagues?
Destroy the Champions League to make the Europa League better. What a ridiculous idea.
Ok. So dense it is.If they struggle to even get through qualifying, what's the point of giving them a full round 1 place?
If all your good players are taken from you because of the earnings (particularly from those participating in the Champions League), creating in a few decades a huge financial discrepency between the “big” teams (who were put into the CL because of bigger local, DOMESTIC audiences rather than Euro audience as a whole), then it gets very hard to compete.
And then it turns out you can lose in one round and only earn a small amount of ticket money.
On the other hand, those who were given free tickets to the CL got millions for no reason. Millions that are more than many teams have in their budget.
And you then confuse the consequence with the cause, mostly because you’ve got a personal stake into having your shitty fourth ranking team in the CL to earn that free money to beat up financially smaller teams from other nations and then argue “see? They are inferior, who would watch that? Not me, I don’t even know where Lithuania is, because it’s not in England, so who of my English friends (the only people I consider mattering in the world) would watch that?”
If you can’t figure it out from here, you shouldn’t even bother.
Check out which teams won the Europa Cup I and note that the big leagues were not that big. And yes, people watched. And cared.
They stole it from them by taking their screen time in the European Leagues, so I can imagine that is one way to return to a more equal playing field.Now you want the bigger European leagues to do what? Give away their TV revenue to the smaller leagues?