The contradiction is strong on this one!Ole is the LVG for this club.
He may not win trophies but this time next year - he will have the right young players at the club with a British core.
At that point we can upgrade to a better manager if need be - but I am more than happy to go a year without winning a trophies as long as ole builds a United club again.
That's what's important to me and ole will do it.
By all means, I’m not super convinced about Woodward and co either. My point was mainly about how quickly you hit the panic button.Mostly agree but I think it should be heavily emphasized that - to put it mildly - the jury's still out regarding the bolded part. Woodward et al and their running the club like rappers in a music video tossing money to the wind are a serious problem affecting the club and its culture among the playing staff in a severely negative way.
But yes right now we're in the best position we've been in post-SAF regarding the coaching staff, certainly the best we could ever have hoped to be.
He needs a summer to add players but us pinning Barcelona back is misleading. They hogged the ball for most of the game, and never got out of 2nd gear because they didn't need to. They didn't need to as we offered sweet feck all in attack apart from effort. It isn't just players unable to find a final ball. It's a team that doesn't play with much cohesion and attacking identity.I think he did as well as expected. We pinned Barcelona in their own half for large chunks of the game. That we couldn't take advantage of that was down to Young, Lukaku and Rashford; not Ole.
He's got the team performing above themselves but there's a limit to how much you can get out of bad ingredients.
Finally some sense. fecking load of brats in here tonight.Considering his options he wasn't outdone tactically. He actually had a patched up side outplaying Barca for large stretches. We were about 15 points from Champions League places and facing an impossible PSG tie when he took over now we are still in the quarters (a 2-1 win and we are through) and right in the hunt for 4th (or 3rd) whilst managing three failed managers players.
Perspective.
Well I would hope he buys better than LVG.Ole is the LVG for this club.
He may not win trophies but this time next year - he will have the right young players at the club with a British core.
At that point we can upgrade to a better manager if need be - but I am more than happy to go a year without winning a trophies as long as ole builds a United club again.
That's what's important to me and ole will do it.
You think?I think you give excuses. Even Ole said we started too sloppy.
We didn’t play 5 at the back, Dalot was further up and tuck in to assist Shaw with Messi. Dalot should have doubled up on Suárez when he pulled away for the goal.Not play Young for starters. Not go with a weird 5 at the back formation with Luke Shaw as LCB and Dalot as LWB. Not sub Lukaku if we were going to put bazillion crosses in. Not sub Young off.
Also, people need to take off their red specs and judge the match for what it was. Zero shots on target at home again, and we've been playing utter shit for couple of months now.
Those two being absolute shite doesn't help either. I was firmly in Martial FC camp when Mou was here but I'm beggining to see why Mou wanted to get rid of him him. As talented as he is, You cannot rely on players who put in 6/10 in most of the games they play and still expect to compete for top honours.You can't really blame Ole for what's going on (apart from him playing Young + the Dalot on the left thing). Its not his fault that United spent so many millions to amass this pile of crap. Apart from Pogba and Martial none of the players on the pitch can dribble past opposition. How can you win with that?
To be fair, it worked. Messi was largely anonymous last night, he couldn't get in the game.You can't really blame Ole for what's going on (apart from him playing Young + the Dalot on the left thing). Its not his fault that United spent so many millions to amass this pile of crap. Apart from Pogba and Martial none of the players on the pitch can dribble past opposition. How can you win with that?
Those two being absolute shite doesn't help either. I was firmly in Martial FC camp when Mou was here but I'm beggining to see why Mou wanted to get rid of him him. As talented as he is, You cannot rely on players who put in 6/10 in most of the games they play and still expect to compete for top honours.
Martial played for how long? 30 minutes? I wouldn't blame them for not being able to drag this tripe to victory against BarcelonaThose two being absolute shite doesn't help either. I was firmly in Martial FC camp when Mou was here but I'm beggining to see why Mou wanted to get rid of him him. As talented as he is, You cannot rely on players who put in 6/10 in most of the games they play and still expect to compete for top honours.
The problem I have is if he plans on making Rashford and Lingard key members of the team. Both of them not good enough if you want to win the league. Atleast with Lukaku he’s a donkey but he’d get you 20 goals a season. What’s Lingard going to do? Do a stupid celebration twice a season when he rarely scores. Doesn’t even assist or do anything remotely threatening.You can't really blame Ole for what's going on (apart from him playing Young + the Dalot on the left thing). Its not his fault that United spent so many millions to amass this pile of crap. Apart from Pogba and Martial none of the players on the pitch can dribble past opposition. How can you win with that?
A good post overlooked because it doesn’t heap praises on Ole.Not at all happy with that peformance. We need to start progressing as a football team and after the early positivity I'm seeing the same issues we had under Mourinho since we pro actively decided to become more defensive - little cohesion, relying on individuals rather than a proper cohsive attacking unit, priority on grit and route one football.
We need to start seeing some progressive football. I assumed that's why we hired Ole rather than continuing to play plucky scrappy football.
People dont like to see it but he made many mistakes recently. His favorism of certain players (Young included) as well as not being able to install an attacking play philosophy is really disappointing.His clear favoritism towards players like Rashford and Lingard is baffling. How can you sub Lukaku before Rashford last night? Absolutely shocking decisions in recent weeks.
How about he bought and played a dogshit goalkeeper that ended up costing you the trophy?I'm not policing anyone, i'm asking a question, are you saying someones opinion can't be questioned.
To be fair, Ole deserves a summer to add the players he needs but the point stands. He has to instill that brand of football which you begin to identify with Manchester United.A good post overlooked because it doesn’t heap praises on Ole.
I see same patterns in our play as I saw under previous 2 managers. Zero off the ball movement, no fresh ideas of play. It’s basically waiting for space to open up on either flanks and then a shit cross is put in. We lose possession, get countered. Rinse and repeat.
Forget progressive football, even in this archaic setup our main source of creativity is Young. I refuse to believe manager doesn’t see that.
The thing that confuses me - and yes I know all new managers often have honeymoon periods - but we played so much better when he first arrived. What's happened to that football??Not at all happy with that peformance. We need to start progressing as a football team and after the early positivity I'm seeing the same issues we had under Mourinho since we pro actively decided to become more defensive - little cohesion, relying on individuals rather than a proper cohsive attacking unit, priority on grit and route one football.
We need to start seeing some progressive football. I assumed that's why we hired Ole rather than continuing to play plucky scrappy football.
The problem was our pressing. It's was always at about 70-80%. Thats a very dangerous game to play. You may as well stand off. There was a few occasions when Rashford and Lukkuka pressed, but the 3rd man was not pressing enough. You see Liverpool and City press, it's how it should be done. You can press with average players and if you get it right, it still is effective. (Milner and Henderson prime examples)Our pressing was really good at times yesterday. We just lacked the final ball and were pretty wasteful in a final 3rd.
For me, the players have stopped making the runs trying to break the lines, And that is a major difference. Putting Lukaku back upfront and Rashford out wide probably doesn't help in terms of that, but then again Rashford, Martial and Lingard have been poor for a while. Lingard isn't good enough anyways tbh.The thing that confuses me - and yes I know all new managers often have honeymoon periods - but we played so much better when he first arrived. What's happened to that football??
Quality of opposition has risen.The thing that confuses me - and yes I know all new managers often have honeymoon periods - but we played so much better when he first arrived. What's happened to that football??
It's like you only check the stats after the match and don't get to see what happens during the matchWhat's that? 4 losses in 5 games. Bang average football continues. God knows what the problem is. 0 shots on target in a home leg.
feck are you on about? We've lost 4 out of 5. I can see whats happening.It's like you only check the stats after the match and don't get to see what happens during the match
