How many of our squad would really worry you if we lost?

[Rozay]

A lot of them. We have a lot of good players. Messi aside, if the rest of what we put out last night had joined Barcelona 5 years ago instead of United, and with the exception of Messi, who distorts everything - the other Barcelona 10 had been United players for the last 5 years instead - we would have still been outclassed.

Our problems are not as simple as our players not being good enough. If anything, we are probably still in and around the top 4 every year purely because we have some good footballers. They need better guidance, coaching and an actual plan/ethos instilled in them.

 

[Dong Fangzhuo]

There are a few I'd hate to lose because I like them/think they have potential. But worry about losing? Zero. Not that I want to bin them all, but I don't see an irreplaceable player in that squad.

 

[Lay]

Was thinking this recently. None actually. I don’t think I like any of them or am excited to see any of them play. Martial a couple seasons ago would be the closest but I’m not that fussed now.

 

[Frasbul]

We are really the worst runned club in the world.

 

[Shinjch]

I don't think I would overly miss any of them.

 

[Smores]

De Gea, Shaw, Lindelof, Rashford

That's it, the rest I'm either bitter towards or they're not yet at the level for me to care either way.

I'm not convinced half of our players really care to be honest.

 

[Handré1990]

None of them. Employees of the corporation I somehow find myself a supporter of.

 

[Smores]

A lot of them. We have a lot of good players. Messi aside, if the rest of what we put out last night had joined Barcelona 5 years ago instead of United, and with the exception of Messi, who distorts everything - the other Barcelona 10 had been United players for the last 5 years instead - we would have still been outclassed.

Our problems are not as simple as our players not being good enough. If anything, we are probably still in and around the top 4 every year purely because we have some good footballers. They need better guidance, coaching and an actual plan/ethos instilled in them.

Some people are still under the delusion that they just need better instruction i see. Nope no issues here just the coaches

 

[kouroux]

None whatsoever

 

[Rozay]

Some people are still under the delusion that they just need better instruction i see. Nope no issues here just the coaches

And some people are still under the illusion, that is, after signing Shaw, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Di Maria, Herrera, Mata, Pogba, Martial, Matic, Mkhitaryan, Fred amongst others that if we could only get a few good players everything will be okay.

 

[Ekeke]

A lot of them. Because we've done so poorly with signing players that I'm not convinced a better player replaces them

 

[Lennon7]

De Gea, Rashford and at the moment Shaw. The rest either can't be arsed or aren't good enough

 

[Smores]

And some people are still under the illusion, that is, after signing Shaw, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Di Maria, Herrera, Mata, Pogba, Martial, Matic, Mkhitaryan, Fred amongst others that if we could only get a few good players everything will be okay.

I only see people thinking we need more than a few. You're the only one claiming otherwise, odd post and list when half of them are failure irrespective of manager

 

[Jacob]

None, if I get their market value in return to start over.

Rashford (as a winger) and Shaw maybe.

 

[Art Vandelay]

De Gea and maybe McTominay for his attitude.

 

[Rozay]

I only see people thinking we need more than a few. You're the only one claiming otherwise, odd post and list when half of them are failure irrespective of manager

Okay, so more than a few then. We need a whole new team. Because all of our footballers are just not good enough. ‘We need to stop going for this calibre of player, we need to go for the world’s best only.’ Which is what Salah and Mane were when Liverpool bought them. Or Firmino who many did not want.

At the point of signing these players, there is no huge disparity between our players and those signed by most of our rivals. However, not one of them improves here, and you have diagnosed it down to us just getting the wrong player again and again. It doesn’t matter if that player was the most expensive in the world at the time, it doesn’t matter whether they are World Cup winners, doesn’t matter whether they are the most expensive teenager in the world, doesn’t matter whether they are Golden Ball winners. It doesn’t even matter if we beat our rivals to sign them. All our problems are because they are not as good as the players our rivals sign.

Basically, ‘if we had just signed Son from Bayer Leverkusen for £10m instead of Martial, we would get far more goals, as from what I can see, Son is much better’. No. When are people going to instead say ‘if Spurs has signed Martial ahead of us, he would be much better now?’. Raheem Sterling would not be close to the best player in the country if he were a United player. But yea. Rakitic and Arthur are what we need, not Pogba and Fred.

 

[IRELANDUNITED]

A lot of people jumping the gun here, yes last night was hard to watch and there is an awful lot of dung in our squad but there is also a lot of good players too. The likes of Young, Smalling, Lingard and Jones are holding the rest of them back. We need to retain our good players (which we have many) and replace the rubbish with top class players - then we will be competitive again.

 

[Member 115509]

DDG, McTominay, Rashford, Martial, Shaw.
The rest are either not good enough full stop or players that could be improved on. Quite a few in the glass half empty/half full unfortunately, far too many in fact. Guys like Lindelof and Smalling in this category.
Pogba is the biggest disappointment, he could be a great player in a great United team, but his attitude is questionable at times and does he really want to be at United ?

 

[Canagel]

Pogba is the only true WC

Fred, Martial, Rashford, Dalot are decent footballers.

Don't see anything for the rest.

 

[ship50]

None.
Not saying that there are no quality players in the club. Just that I don't feel they play with the passion and hunger needed at this club.

 

[bosnian_red]

Would be sad if De Gea left because he's on his way to being a United legend, though he hasn't been great this season. Still the loyalty he's shown over the past 5-6 years is great and completely unexpected tbh. Nobody could begrudge him if he wanted to leave now.

Rashford I think will stay here his whole career and have a great career here, would be shocked if anything else happened. Pogba I'm half expecting will leave after next season so it's whatever. Shaw has improved loads and I think there's every reason to believe he can have a good career here and stay a long time. Martial I forever have hope for that he can fulfill his potential, but next season will be key for that. The rest are all expendable really. Dalot has potential but still young and hasn't been here long so don't have much attachment. CB's are all meh. Midfielders are all meh. Wings are all meh apart from the ones I mentioned for long term hopes.

 

[justboy68]

Wouldn't worry about a single one of them leaving. Not to say I'd necessarily be happy about all of them, but there's no one hard enough to replace that would have me concerned.

 

[beergod]

Rashford and McTominay, because if the likes of them are bailing out while the wasters stay on things are truly hopeless.

 

[Steerpike]

It's a bit depressing to think, but I'd actually be pleased if most of them left. The only ones I feel are either likely to improve, or are worth a starting berth anyway, and who actually show a decent attitude, are: -

Scott McTominay
Marcus Rashford
Chris Smalling
Victor Lindelof
Sergio Romero
Luke Shaw
Diogo Dalot

I'm still reserving judgement on Fred (the player, not the mascot).

 

[AgentP]

As shocking a realisation as this is actually there isn’t anyone currently at the club that I would be outraged at us selling.

Nobody here currently stands out as unsellable or has endeared themselves enough.

I mean there are players worth keeping at the club obviously but there is no one that makes me think “how on earth do we replace them?”

De Gea being sold would mean we would have to invest in a ball playing GK and stop relying on him to be our best defender.

Pogba being sold would give us a lot of cash to rebuild and add two creative CMs rather than relying on him all the time (and possibly give us more balance)

I can’t see Rashford being sold but if he went then the club would be forced to buy a top class CF to replace him as for Martial he doesn’t do enough with his talent and after all this time I think this is just the player he is. Doesn’t make enough runs in behind so replaceable with ease.

People like Shaw, we could just buy Tierney, Fred any decent DM etc...

It’s really quite worrying that out best players bar De Gea and on his day Pogba are nowhere near the best in Europe.

Look back ten years or so we had Ronaldo, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra etc all definitely close to the best players of those years (if not the best at least in the PL) and now look at us...

Agree with this completely. Such a sorry state to be in.

 

[francobaresi]

De Gea. That's it

 

[JEredDevil]

Lingard and Rashy because 2 of them are true Mancs and know what it means to play for this club.

Not so much for the rest because like what others has said, easily replaceable and some of them would even give us a decent amount of money. And if reports are to be believed, some of them are even holding the club to ransom, which makes it very very difficult for me to miss them so they could jolly well move their ass along to another club and im sure we can find replacements that do actually want to play for us.

 

[LoneStar]

This is an opinion from a Barca fan’s point of view, so take it with a pinch of salt.

The problem with the current Manchester United is that you guys are satisfied with 8/10 players.

Luke Shaw is a solid left back. He is sound defensively and not bad going forward. But when you compare him to Jordi Alba or Marcelo (before this season), he just doesn’t compare at all. He’s not even close. Guys like Marcelo and Alba can win you games on their own.

Chris Smalling seems at least respected on here. He’s a solid defender, but very limited on the ball. Unlike say Chiellini, he’s also not that good of a defender that it negates his limitations as a football.

The reason to why I mention Smalling and Shaw is because they are generally rated on here, unlike guys like Jones and Young.

It’s fine to have some 8/10 players, but if all your outfield players apart from Pogba are decent-but-not-great, then you will get decent-but-not-great results.

While I agree with you on this, it is impossible for us to bring in 7/8 players in one window.

We should focus on the areas where a replacement is absolutely needed, like a RB, CM, RW and a striker as well.

We have to come to a position where we can consistently challenge for trophies before thinking about upgrading our solid players (like Shaw).

 

[Ban]

Misleading thread title.

 

[jesperjaap]

This is an opinion from a Barca fan’s point of view, so take it with a pinch of salt.

The problem with the current Manchester United is that you guys are satisfied with 8/10 players.

Luke Shaw is a solid left back. He is sound defensively and not bad going forward. But when you compare him to Jordi Alba or Marcelo (before this season), he just doesn’t compare at all. He’s not even close. Guys like Marcelo and Alba can win you games on their own.

Chris Smalling seems at least respected on here. He’s a solid defender, but very limited on the ball. Unlike say Chiellini, he’s also not that good of a defender that it negates his limitations as a football.

The reason to why I mention Smalling and Shaw is because they are generally rated on here, unlike guys like Jones and Young.

It’s fine to have some 8/10 players, but if all your outfield players apart from Pogba are decent-but-not-great, then you will get decent-but-not-great results.

Think you are being very generous, we have a lot of 6/10 players and two or three 8/10 players that are performing more regularly 6/10. The only player I would worry about losing would be DeGea, despite his recent form, in my opinion, he is the best keeper in the world which makes him hard to replace.
As for the rest, its more worrying about who I would want to keep, as there isnt a single player I am totally convinced by. I think Rashford is over rated, but I do like him and he is talented, Shaw, very much the same as you, he is a solid left back. As for the rest, its probably players I would like to stay as SQUAD players more than starters, its mainly our bigger signings I most want to leave, Lukaku most certainly at the top of the list.

I would like us to keep DeGea, Shaw, Smalling, Dalot, McTominay, Rashford....only half of them as probably starters though. I actually think our squad is good and we have a couple of very exciting youngsters that can possibly come through......but first eleven quality I actually think up to 8 spots need replacing, which is a huge job and to fix everything we would need a football manager type transfer window this summer with 10 or so players out for £300m odd and an actual £500m spend....basically, pretty much all we have done in the transfer market over the last 7 years, needs to be done in one window....but signing the right players rather than virtually all wrong ones, that just how abysmally poor our transfer business has been, pretty much every window since we signed Van Persie

 

[devilish]

Ddg
Pogba

 

[crossy1686]

Barring the youth academy kids, I don't give a shit if they all left tomorrow. This squad is the face of failure.

 

[Robertd0803]

De Gea because replacing him will be stupidly difficult and expensive when we need the money elsewhere.

Rashford because hes one of our own and I think he will only get better.

Right now besides that couldnt care less as long as they are replaced with better. Ive been a pretty big defender of Pogba but if his head/heart isnt in it bugger off and use the money to buy a proper midfield.

None of the likes of Chong/Gomes/Greenwood because it sets an awful precedent.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Just the academy players.

Same.

That said this thread reminds me of the now departed Chelsea poster @Orc . When they were tanking under Mourinho (I think) he hated them all and wanted them all out. Most of them then won a title for Chelsea within a couple of years.

 

[Volumiza]

DDG and Shaw but no one else. Been a fan since 1985 and have never felt so apathetic about the players in the team since.

There is quality there in places but so many poor or bad attitudes it’s insane.

 

[redshaw]

Not many, maybe Shaw and Rashford.

Our time with Pogba is probably coming to an end after 3 years. I don't get the sense he wants to help put United back on top now and is set on leaving. The club hasn't done a good job getting players in. Only Ibra was on Pogba's talent level, it stood out a mile.

De Gea could stay if on realistic wages. We had great distribution with Peter Schmeichel. We should probably be looking at that really, we were famous for it. De Gea lacks distribution and command of the area for crosses/corners, he has one third of Peter's abilities.

 

[simplyared]

Rashford

 

[Leftback99]

None. Every one of them is completely replaceable. Surprised to see players like Shaw and Lindelof mentioned. Worry if they left? Indispensable? Really?

 

[Snuffkin]

They are all players who can step up. If we bring in some big personality like cantona these boys can play like world class players. We need characters in the squad, 2 or 3 would do to bring the best out of our lads. We've seen what ole can drag out of them now we need to keep that up.

 

[.Phil1968]

Since I've been following United there's always been players who've been vital to the success of the side, in that I'd worry that if they were out injured or suspended then we'd struggle. Players like Robbo Eric Keano Rooney RVN Scholes Carrick .
There's not one player now that I'd be too bothered about if they were out for Sunday. Incredibly inept shameful player recruitment for years has left us with a squad which isn't good enough, yes there's potential there but there's so much pressure on them to step up because the established players are just not good enough and certainly not United standard.