And was VDS known as one of the best CEO’s in the world prior to him going back to Ajax? Or did he get a chance and ended up being a good appointment? Or did Overmars do a degree in ‘DOF’ before being given the job there?
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Didn't you know that all job roles are defined by footballing ability? All the CEO's in the world are every bit as good as Messi, they just chose not to play.
I just want to see someone appointment soon..
I mean literally two of the best sporting directors around - Monchi and Zorc went straight from ex players to sporting directors.
Not a guarantee that Fletcher(if appointed) will do well ofcourse but don't write him off just because he's an ex player.
It doesn't change your point but he was appointed as a marketing director and he studied sports and marketing management at the Uni. He got promoted to CEO later.
It seems like Fletcher will be groomed for the role from my understanding of reading the report in the Telegraph. Makes alot of sense and it seems we're following the likes of Barca and Dortmund in that sense.
I personally thought Overmars was a bit of a dick, didn't think he'd be as successful as he has been at Ajax.
Michael Edwards too and there is a good summary on his career.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo.../michael-edwards-liverpool-fsg-klopp-12124673
Nothing to do with being one of the best DoFs, he was performance analyst and took up various roles before promoted as DoF.
Well it's about time we tried a new approach because the one we're currently trying is fecking terrible.
I can see people losing their shit on here if this gets confirmed. Would be a positive move though IMO.
Honestly couldn't care. People in this place have very little life experience yet think they know how to run a football club because their mates agree with them.
How about a Bayern style trio here?
Van Der Sar, Darren Fletcher and Quinton Fortune.
Van Der Sar, Darren Fletcher and Quinton Fortune.
Would rather it be Fletcher than Phelan. We need someone young who is not stuck in his ways.
Whether it is Fletcher, or Phelan or a more experienced external candidate, the important thing is that we get Woodward away from football matters as much as possible. He's reportedly already interfering with this summer's transfer plans - he needs to be kept away.
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The burning question and the most importantly the response , is we need to take the guru in sponsorship and financial management away from player decisions . Until the answer is that Woodward is removed from that position , then the mess is likely to continue.
You could even wear Fletcher in the DOF role just to bring experince of style and hopefully the ability to recognise the traits needed in younger players to develop within our system.
The longer Teflon Ed remains the trusted servant of everything Man Utd under the Glazer watch, the longer the club deteriorates , not a good outcome.
You could even wear Fletcher in the DOF role just to bring experince of style and hopefully the ability to recognise the traits needed in younger players to develop within our system.
The longer Teflon Ed remains the trusted servant of everything Man Utd under the Glazer watch, the longer the club deteriorates , not a good outcome.
Speaks a lot of sense.
We've tried the big names and failed for the most part. We used to look for the younger players with potential to develop with the odd star thrown in.
I hope we go back to that this year.
speaks lots of sense in this.Just hope he has the acumen and ability to put words in actions.
The same Fletcher that thinks our academy is so good he put his kids in City's, I don't think so.
Yeah clubs usually find a former player that is well liked and groom them for the position. Overmars at Ajax, Abidal at Barca, John De Jong at PSV, Zorc at Dortmund, Hasan Salihamidžić at Bayern, Zidane used to be Real's director of Football.
Evra would have been a suggestion if he wasn’t acting the clown online the last few years.
I’m not really sure what former player we have would suit that role professionally.
I expect the whole point of appointing a sporting director would be to not only look over first team matters but improve the academy also.
Yes, as well as reorganising our scouting network and overseeing contract negotiations with players and agents.
This is precisely my issue, I find it very difficult to believe Woodward / Glazers will give much financial authority to any director of football and as a result they will still hold the ultimate veto and control of transfers. I feel that we'll very much be in exactly the same situation as we are now but with an extra person in the chain.
Manager requests player > Director of football identifies potential player > Woodward rejects and gives Sanchez pay rise and a 5 year contract extension.
I’d be happy with giving fletcher a go.
He’s a United man, under Fergies wing since he was a teenager. He will have observed a lot. He strikes me as a very intelligent guy who knows his football.
He’s a United man, under Fergies wing since he was a teenager. He will have observed a lot. He strikes me as a very intelligent guy who knows his football.
Good we need a guy who's not deluded about the clubs current state and knows the faults.
Why can't we just hire someone from the outside.
Any rebuild, be it with big stars or the top young talent, is meaningless if the man making the decisions is Woodward. We need a clear blueprint and a plan of what we want to do it and how we are going to accomplish it. The only thing Woodward should be able to say to our football czar is how much money he can spend. That's it.
I'm afraid of us going out and buying a bunch of players, experience a slight improvement. yes even earning a CL place, but then not much else. At this rate we're facing a Liverpool PL like existence.
I'm afraid of us going out and buying a bunch of players, experience a slight improvement. yes even earning a CL place, but then not much else. At this rate we're facing a Liverpool PL like existence.
Why are people so desperate for us to look ‘from the outside’...? We’ve gone for the managers with the best reputations and they’ve been useless. I’m happy for us to have a manager who knows where the club should be and a DoF. Anything that gets Woodward away from the football side of things.
Darren Fletcher is worse. No experience whatsoever in negotiating for players or recruiting for players. We are run by fecking muppets.
Have we?
even Jose came to us with his reputation in tatters.so if not a big name we are doomed right?
Come off it. His reputation wasn’t in tatters. He came here as apparently one of the greatest managers ever. Van Gaal came from Barca and Bayern but was still useless.Have we?
I'd rather have Fletcher than Phelan. He's young and might have something new to offer.
Phelan is 50 and also inexperienced. There's high chance high approach might just be a backward looking to the past.
Phelan is 50 and also inexperienced. There's high chance high approach might just be a backward looking to the past.
Because none of Europes top DoF's would want to come and be answerable to a football no nothing like Woodward!
A nonsense.
It just shows the short term thinking of the club. Did anyone seriously think of Mike Phelan when they briefed that they wanted a director of football?
Love the thread title.
Does he have enough standing to get rid of deadwood like Jones, Matic, Mata and bring the type of creativity and high work rate athletes united always maintained in the team until Fergie?
Uninspiring choice, as expected.
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