Kill 'em all
Pastor of Muppets
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Only way we can save face from this scenario is if he resigns and Woodward takes the full blame and goes with him.
Yeah and we probably win with Lukaku up front instead of Rashford. Lukaku helped us finish 2nd last year and is our best forward. Deal with it.As long as you can accept criticism of Lukaku and don't scurry to defend him at every opportunity
Nah, this is the through process Woodward was talking about.We had the perfect scenario where we could have decided his fate in the summer. But as usual the directors, including the legends, rushed it and now we're stuck with a dud for a manager.
So what do you do then ? Sell every player ? . Whole point of management is to get the best out of your players . With so much on the line Ole couldn't get his players to beat an already relegated team and yet it's lunacy to blame him ?Why are people blaming Ole for this shambles when the same set of players performed equally as bad (or worse) under Mourinho?
LVG and Jose are solely accountable for the state of this squad. They identified and signed off on these players.
You would have to be completely out of your mind to hold Ole responsible in any way shape or form.
Lunacy.
What's your solution ? Sack yet another manager and start afresh, until the next manager loses a few games and we come full circle ?Doesn't mean we should put rose tinted glasses on and pretend it's fine. It's not fine. We got a clueless manager, mediocre squad and we will inevitably waste another £100m or so during the summer and then Ole will eventually get sacked next season.
We didn't wait because the search for 'correct' manager this time was crucial, one we couldn't get wrong. Given our list of managerial appointments, Ed was under pressure to get this one right. But guess what, the fans made that choice for him. Ole's great start meant he didn't have to do the hard job of searching for a manager. Fans had made that call and he duly obliged.The real question is why did the board not wait till the end of the season before hiring him? There was 0 pressure to hire him as he was an interim boss and 0 competition.
Since SAF the only sensible appointment has been Mourinho and that was done way too late. He should have been in immediately and then the likes of Diego Costa, Fabregas and Willian would have ended up at Old Trafford together with a couple of league titles. Moyes was a gamble, Van Gaal was a joke, you got a broken down Mourinho and then finished off with rookie Ole. Awful appointments simple as.
Yup and he knows most people will find it very difficult to turn on Ole. Which is true, even for me, its a shame hes gotten himself tangled up in this garbage.We didn't want to wait because once again it was an easy/cheaper option. Fans were riding the wave and wanted him in the hot seat, the clueless Ed duly obliged. Mainly to absolve himself of doing the difficult task of actually searching for the right man for the job.
Seriously? Ten Hag? Based on Ajax's Champions League campaign... You do realise Overmars and Van Der Sar put that team together.This task is too big for him. Woodward needs to sack him and see if we can get Erik Ten Hag If Pochettino is not available. I have made my assessment, of Ole and if he stays and proves me wrong, I will love it. However, I can’t see it. He has no footballing philosophy or gameplan. I fear he might even be worse than Moyes. The only advantage Ole has is that we will not be able to attract top players and we will be in Europa League. He can start fresh without no expectation next season, our standard has drop that low.
Because we have the most clueless board out there and it was easy to give it to Ole. Boost for the fans, Ole won't demand huge amounts of money to spend and won't shake the boat. Poch or any other top manager would make huge demandsThe real question is why did the board not wait till the end of the season before hiring him? There was 0 pressure to hire him as he was an interim boss and 0 competition.
Since SAF the only sensible appointment has been Mourinho and that was done way too late. He should have been in immediately and then the likes of Diego Costa, Fabregas and Willian would have ended up at Old Trafford together with a couple of league titles. Moyes was a gamble, Van Gaal was a joke, you got a broken down Mourinho and then finished off with rookie Ole. Awful appointments simple as.
The only common thread during our post-Fergie mediocrity has been the presence of Woodward. He needs to go and we need a proper DOF.It has been like this since SAF left. Its pathetic to blame every manager we had since SAF. The culture need to change. We need to get rid of a lot of players imo.
What makes you think he's going to buy the right players though?How about when he's had an actual summer to make some changes he wants to make? I don't think people realise just how fecking difficult it is to make any meaningful change when you're thrown into a situation like he was back in November. IF we've made some major recruitment in the summer and we're playing like this closer to Christmas then we need to start asking serious questions but if we haven't appointed a DOF it's pointless sacking him anyway, we'll just be back at square one again with a new manager who doesn't fancy any of the players he has.
Where does he used to play?The football has been crap since pogba is moved to left side of midfield 3.
I think he will fix the club. Its going to be a exciting summer imo. Lots of work to do.Doesn't mean the managers are good enough though. Moyes was a disaster, LVG past it and Jose, well was Jose. Ole atm doesn't look like the right fit, despite the team needs a rebuild
We did. He got the sack because he put this squad together.Amazing man, a club legend.
Not up to the standard required to re-build Manchester United.
Go out and try to get the one of the worlds best managers.
We have to run more. Pre season and we are ok.
It's the players responsibility to be fit. Guardiola even said "I'm not their dad" when talking about some of his players. No one needs to tell a pro getting 100k pw to be in shape. The standards have fallen so far we even excuse the players for being unfit.Because it's not one or two players. It's a team problem. Even when Mourinho was around we regularly ran a lot less than who ever we were facing. For whatever reason, the team entered the season lacking in this department. It's a coaching issue.
Just like he's doing at Tottenham. Holding Levy ransom...Because we have the most clueless board out there and it was easy to give it to Ole. Boost for the fans, Ole won't demand huge amounts of money to spend and won't shake the boat. Poch or any other top manager would make huge demands
Shoud have stick with Jose .
you are like a parody. Are you related to him or something?Yeah and we probably win with Lukaku up front instead of Rashford. Lukaku helped us finish 2nd last year and is our best forward. Deal with it.
10Where does he used to play?
Should have backed Jose more like. After not backing him we fell into a position where we had to sack him.Shoud have stick with Jose .