Agreed, I'm not massively sold on Pepe, but him and Dybala would take pressure of them both in the goals. I envisage him playing the Lingard role in the formation against Spurs where we won 1-0.Agreed, he has that tenacity that Tevez used to have despite not being the largest forward around. Someone here mentioned Pepe and Dybala to replace Lukaku if he leaves. Think that will be a great option - a "front 2" of Pepe and Rashford who can peel wide to the flanks, with Dybala just behind them.
I don't think we really need a header of the ball, considering we can't cross for shit. As I said above, he'd do really well in that Lingard role.Dybala is a dilemma. He can lead the line. That's the role he played in at Palermo. His dribbling and goal conversion is excellent. However he lack the physical presence to play in that role which is why Allegri moved him further down.
Unfortunately his contribution isn't that great. He isn't a lazy player but his skills on that matter is a bit lacking. Dybala will never head the ball and his passing is good but needs to work upon. That means he will be less effective the more you move him down the pitch.
If you ask me his best role is that of number 10 just behind a powerful striker like Lukaku. A narrow 4-3-3 system with Pogba, a hardworking box to box midfielder and Matic in midfield with Dybala and Rashford behind the main striker could do the trick.
The talent is there but the problem is that he got deficiencies in whatever role you play him in. If you play him upfront then you'll exploit his dribbling and goal conversion rate however he'll be vulnerable in air and he's not a physically imposing guy. Meanwhile if he move him in a deeper role then other issues crop up. For example he's not exactly a great passer of the ball or a very creative player. He seem to strive best just behind a physically imposing hardworking striker who will create spaces for his dribbling and his finishing to be further exploitedAgreed, I'm not massively sold on Pepe, but him and Dybala would take pressure of them both in the goals. I envisage him playing the Lingard role in the formation against Spurs where we won 1-0.
I don't think we really need a header of the ball, considering we can't cross for shit. As I said above, he'd do really well in that Lingard role.
No, square plug round hole transfer policy again. Name and profile of player far more important than what they can do for us on the pitchThe talent is there but the problem is that he got deficiencies in whatever role you play him in. If you play him upfront then you'll exploit his dribbling and goal conversion rate however he'll be vulnerable in air and he's not a physically imposing guy. Meanwhile if he move him in a deeper role then other issues crop up. For example he's not exactly a great passer of the ball or a very creative player. He seem to strive best just behind a physically imposing hardworking striker who will create spaces for his dribbling and his finishing to be further exploited
Which makes you wonder, do we really need the guy.
No, square plug round hole transfer policy again. Name and profile of player far more important than what they can do for us on the pitch
Jones contract before Ole got the permanent job. I’m guessing he didn’t have the final say about it, probably not even a single word he was allowed to say at that time regarding the contract.Dybala is class and there have been times in the past that I would have loved him at United.
However I don't think he's the sort of player that Solskjaer is after. He's technically fantastic, super creative, a good goal scorer... but he's also small, not the quickest, a bit lazy. Solskjaer has said he wants players who have 'pace and power' and that he wants us to be the hardest working team in the league... you won't get any of that with Dybala.
Of course Solskjaer also said that United are going to be ruthless and have a survival of the fittest policy at the same time that Phil Jones was signing up for another four or five years. So perhaps I shouldn't put much stock in what he says.
Disagree with virtually everything. He's got great vision and passing, is very strong and difficult to dispossess and his hold up play with his back to the goal is great. He doesn't lack for physical presence at all, Allegri just likes to play with a target manThe talent is there but the problem is that he got deficiencies in whatever role you play him in. If you play him upfront then you'll exploit his dribbling and goal conversion rate however he'll be vulnerable in air and he's not a physically imposing guy. Meanwhile if he move him in a deeper role then other issues crop up. For example he's not exactly a great passer of the ball or a very creative player. He seem to strive best just behind a physically imposing hardworking striker who will create spaces for his dribbling and his finishing to be further exploited
Which makes you wonder, do we really need the guy.
Well lets agree to disagree then. TBF this sort of disagreements are very common regarding Dybala. No one seem to agree on anything about what his strengths and his weaknesses are.Disagree with virtually everything. He's got great vision and passing, is very strong and difficult to dispossess and his hold up play with his back to the goal is great. He doesn't lack for physical presence at all, Allegri just likes to play with a target man
He's also not a great dribbler, he can dribble in midfield where he has space but in the final third in tighter areas he lacks explosiveness and quickness for it(which is why he rarely tries)
Pray he doesn't sign for liverpool or city
In the middle of the front 3, or maybe on the right of it. He's not a 9 but he works very well interchanging with the other forwards. He has played on the right a lot this season but it's not his best position.What would be his best position for us? Where would he fit in our current 433?
I don't buy that. Jones didn't sign a new deal right after Solskjaer got the job but a couple of months later. He would surely have had input on contracts at that point, same as he would have a big say on us selling Fellaini. Besides I think it's clear that Solskjaer simply rates Jones. After he was made interim manager he played Jones in every single game until he signed a new contract and then claimed that Jones was 'entering into his prime years as a centre-half' and that he was 'delighted' the player was staying at United. The only people I know in real life who are delighted that Jones is at United until 2023 are Liverpool and City fans.Jones contract before Ole got the permanent job. I’m guessing he didn’t have the final say about it, probably not even a single word he was allowed to say at that time regarding the contract.
Jones got the new contract in February, that was way before Ole got the permanent job. Interim manager shouldn’t be allowed to have an input for it because he was just a temporary employee.I don't buy that. Jones didn't sign a new deal right after Solskjaer got the job but a couple of months later. He would surely have had input on contracts at that point, same as he would have a big say on us selling Fellaini. Besides I think it's clear that Solskjaer simply rates Jones. After he was made interim manager he played Jones in every single game until he signed a new contract and then claimed that Jones was 'entering into his prime years as a centre-half' and that he was 'delighted' the player was staying at United. The only people I know in real life who are delighted that Jones is at United until 2023 are Liverpool and City fans.
It's that type of thinking that landed us with SanchezYou don't pass up the chance to sign Dybala
Far too much of this going around. Let Liverpool and City sign whoever they want, just because they'll excel there doesn't mean they'll do the same here. We need to get players who are right for us, not players who are right for other teamsDisagree with virtually everything. He's got great vision and passing, is very strong and difficult to dispossess and his hold up play with his back to the goal is great. He doesn't lack for physical presence at all, Allegri just likes to play with a target man
He's also not a great dribbler, he can dribble in midfield where he has space but in the final third in tighter areas he lacks explosiveness and quickness for it(which is why he rarely tries). He also has good stamina and fantastic workrate. Just look at the game against ajax, in the first half he nullified De Jong. The game turned on his injury
Pray he doesn't sign for liverpool or city
It was the month before Solskjaer got the permanent job and after two months of Solskjaer playing Jones in every single game he was the manager for. An interim manager wouldn't be barred from having any input on new contracts because that would be stupid, you are literally paying him to assess these players with regard to team selections etc and then saying 'but your assessment of these players cannot have any bearing on their future'. Be honest and ask yourself if Fellaini was being picked in every single match by Solskjaer while Jones was never getting played would we have had the exact same situation with Fellaini being sold while Jones gets a long term deal? Seems ludicrous to believe that imo.Jones got the new contract in February, that was way before Ole got the permanent job. Interim manager shouldn’t be allowed to have an input for it because he was just a temporary employee.
They can't play as a centre back or in midfield or even right wing. Poor business .Dybala + a striker would be good business I think.
I honestly don't see how it would be frightening. Zaha, Rashy and Martial only reached 10 league goals once while we can't be sure how Dybala would look in the PL in the crap team like ours. I think we would struggle to score just like we do now.False 9 could be frightening on the counter. Pepe reminds me of Henry.
Rash/Martial.................... Pepe/Zaha
Dybala
What and not sort out our absolute shite at CB and RB?Dybala + a striker would be good business I think.
Why? Is there a restriction on number of signings we can make?What and not sort out our absolute shite at CB and RB?
No, square plug round hole transfer policy again. Name and profile of player far more important than what they can do for us on the pitch
What "current 4-3-3", what round hole? We've probably only played 4-3-3 in half the matches under Ole. We've played 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 diamond in a lot of games too.What would be his best position for us? Where would he fit in our current 433?
A new contract decision won’t be made right away. Thus, the decision of giving jones a contract was probably in January, Jones signed it in early February.It was the month before Solskjaer got the permanent job and after two months of Solskjaer playing Jones in every single game he was the manager for. An interim manager wouldn't be barred from having any input on new contracts because that would be stupid, you are literally paying him to assess these players with regard to team selections etc and then saying 'but your assessment of these players cannot have any bearing on their future'. Be honest and ask yourself if Fellaini was being picked in every single match by Solskjaer while Jones was never getting played would we have had the exact same situation with Fellaini being sold while Jones gets a long term deal? Seems ludicrous to believe that imo.
Exactly.What "current 4-3-3", what round hole? We've probably only played 4-3-3 in half the matches under Ole. We've played 3-5-2 and 4-4-2 diamond in a lot of games too.
People are talking about him not fitting to "our formation", when Ole has clearly not settled into one formation at all.
People are just projecting. They like 4-3-3 because the top 2 teams in our league are using it successfully and they think that's the system that we play or at least should play. But we're really lacking the hard working wingers and fullbacks that system requires to make it work in this league or CL.Exactly.
Oh, it's not about you signing him. It's about how good he would be on either of those teams and how much he'd improve themFar too much of this going around. Let Liverpool and City sign whoever they want, just because they'll excel there doesn't mean they'll do the same here. We need to get players who are right for us, not players who are right for other teams
They can't play as a centre back or in midfield or even right wing. Poor business .
What do either of these posts have to do with my post?What and not sort out our absolute shite at CB and RB?
I guess we shouldnt sign Italians either then, they havent worked out either.We should never sign an argentinian again
Klopp and Pep don't even sign that kind of players. Klopp prefers players from a small club while Pep loves the same and also players who is in top form at a big club.Disagree with virtually everything. He's got great vision and passing, is very strong and difficult to dispossess and his hold up play with his back to the goal is great. He doesn't lack for physical presence at all, Allegri just likes to play with a target man
He's also not a great dribbler, he can dribble in midfield where he has space but in the final third in tighter areas he lacks explosiveness and quickness for it(which is why he rarely tries). He also has good stamina and fantastic workrate. Just look at the game against ajax, in the first half he nullified De Jong. The game turned on his injury
Pray he doesn't sign for liverpool or city
Unfortunately, it also has Woodward written all over it...Got disaster written all over it
Or even Felix (If he doesnt sign for City).I have a feeling that Juventus will sell Dybala for 85m and replace him with James for 35m~40m.
we should never sign british players again, the ones we have are bumsWe should never sign an argentinian again
