One the bolded, how so?
And how is your offense going to click with Dybala and no Pogba behind him? As far as Pogba not having worked out for you, he has been pretty consistently your best player. His stats are way above average for a CM. Now, I get it, if the results don't follow or if he goes missing in the big games, it's a valid criticism but it doesn't equate him not working out. Pogba is a key piece to becoming a winner again, but it's not going to work with guys like Matic and Herrera/Fred or guys like Lukaku/Rashford/Martial up front. Pogba is A piece, not THE piece, and neither is Dybala. To get one just to lose the other is silly, especially if the two appreciate and enjoy playing with one another given their history. And I completely disagree that it's a lateral move at worst, it could very well get worse with just Dybala and no Pogba.
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I wouldn't care. Although if he does go to a rival and starts banging in goals, I'll moan.
He's head and shoulders above the other players on the pitch even when he's not at this best. Most number of assists and goals if I'm not mistaken and if there are stats like chances created etc, I'm sure he'd be topping them too. If he's a case of it 'not working out', we need 11 new players.
It's just incredible to read some of the things about Pogba on here at times. Some want to say it's misleading stats because of the overall performance and results, but GOOD LUCK finding another midfielder that would have those numbers in this team.
On the bolded, because certain players work in certain teams and others don't. Simple as.
Half his goals are pens. But besides that you can't have 11 players of +100m value and on 300k pw. He's not on the same expectation level as Scott McT. And like I said before it's not even about the stats. He can do great stuff on occasion but regularly fails to do the basics right and that's the reason why everyone pretty much has doubts about him, his impact on the team and his best position.
I think you want the perfect player and they don't exist. You have to take some of the stupid decisions Pogba takes with dribbling to get the moments of brilliance where he actually pulls it off and follows it up with a goal or a magical assist. You have to accept that, at times, he won't be doing the basics right and there should be other players far more limited in creativity but more industrial and defensive to cover for that, along with a solid defense. There's no player that brings nothing but positives without some drawbacks. You're focusing your entire attention on how Pogba isn't working out because the team hasn't figured out how to best use him, etc....but what is working out in this team? I mean, I'm genuinely asking, what is one thing you can point to on this team, across the field, that has worked out this season? Or the season before? Or the one before that? If you want to throw away your best player because you're so certain that there's something better along the way, you're in for a rude awakening, especially with no CL next season, no one who can do a better job from the center of the field is going to rush over to work out for this team (if even such a player actually exists or is even remotely available).
It’s kinda how I envisaged how he’d play too, especially if we want to utilize pacy wide forwards
Says we have agreed in principle to pay his €100m release clause.
Yeah its sad how all the fans have turned against Pogba. The amount of chances he creates which are not taken by our players is staggering. Could have easily had 5-10 assists more if he had a clinical striker in front of him. Tbh he only has himself to blame, the constant flirting with Real might work for clubs like Arsenal or Chelsea but wont work here at OT.
He’d have to play further forward if Pogba stays.
It's actually a worse move. No point buying some shiny new attackers just as you get rid of the creative midfield that's supposed to supply them.
To be fair, we don’t need those numbers from a CM. Especially one who compromises the stability of the side tactically more often than not.
Exactly! Dybala is a player to go after if there's any chance to get him, but that move should never include letting Pogba go, especially because it's Dybala.
Again, Pogba is far from being the main culprit of compromising the stability of the side tactically (whatever those tactics are, I haven't figured it out in three years and neither have the players).
. Why is United fans the only one that doesn't want to add quality to quality just like any ambitious club does? Pogba sale is actually a real possibility and if he decided to go we must replace with 2/3 mid but whoever came in is certain to be downgrade without even starting to address the actual holes in the team. very confusing to me why fans is so certain pogba is this conundrum that must be removed. Dybala will just take his place as the CAF new scapegoat next year I could already see it.
Like who
My worry is that we don't have the structure to allow someone like Dybala to succeed.
PSG are probably the only ones who spring to mind if they can afford to.
Heh. Forgot about them.
After last summer I do not believe a word he says
Unless rumours of a bust up a true, it wouldn't be make sense to sell Martial. Lukaku, Sanchez and Mata are already potentially departing.
Of course optimally I would love to add Dybala and other needed improvements to a side including a committed Pogba. I never said otherwise. I'm just saying we can replace him in the aggregate more easily than most seem to think. Like going from no quality attackers to two. Or God forbid maybe even three.
I might be more worried about it if we were losing consistent quality. But Pogba simply hasn't been consistent or committed. Again, I don't care to discuss him at all. Never mind in this thread.
Except that Dybala doesn't have a release clause in his contract
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I kinda think there's no point not buying better players just because of this mindset though. We'll never improve otherwise. We have to buy enough players in one window to make a decent difference though. We can afford Dybala and Sancho, plus Brandt's release, plus Meunier's. That's 'only' £250m spent, which should be plenty doable, especially if Lukaku and Martial leave, and especially especially if Pogba does.
What's wrong with Tevez and Romero? Yes Tevez sold us out to our close rivals for more money like a cnut, but he was class for us. In fact, exactly the sort of forward we need right now. Romero was one of our best buys recently all things considered.
By definition then he wasn't class for us at all
I think Castles is generally worth listening to, but this is not his story, it's Ian McGarry's.
None of these options mentioned, bar Chelsea perhaps, make any sense.
How can you tell if it’s him or not?Dybala's been pictured in London, meeting Ed maybe?
