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Pogba apologises to fans after Cardiff

Loublaze

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Look at that idiot with his shirt off. All about Pogba, not the club. Please leave in the summer.
A shirt he apparently gave to a fan who asked for it, he never triggered those idiots
 

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what about rahsford lingard? and especially young jones smalling matic lukkau and sanchez? all should be given ''abuse'' more then pogba
 

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Lou Macari is blaming him for not having a shirt, which he gave to a fan, and then claim that he shouldn't gave his shirt on the pitch because it's a lack of discipline. I'm sure that we can all remember United players shirtless after games under SAF.
I was quoting your claim Pogba made 16 PL starts in his last season as a 19 year old?!
 

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He's not a scapegoat though and that's the difference in our views. He's as much problem as others, maybe even bigger problem because he has the most quality of them.
The others were not abused. Being singled out to me is scapegoating
 

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Pogba hung around after everyone else had gone, giving it the big 'look at me, I'm big enough to stand here and take the abuse' knowing full well he can walk into the dressing room later and say that he was abused by the fans while everyone else ran away.

Now he's singled out as a victim instead of the anger being directed at the team. Gives him an easy out for Madrid.
Are you the old guy in the video by any chance? You can literally see the other players there with him so what you’re saying makes no sense. If he ran away without saying anything, you’d be claiming he’s a coward and won’t look the people who pay his wages in the eye.
 

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Are you the old guy in the video by any chance? You can literally see the other players there with him so what you’re saying makes no sense. If he ran away without saying anything, you’d be claiming he’s a coward and won’t look the people who pay his wages in the eye.
Just no.
 

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Are you the old guy in the video by any chance? You can literally see the other players there with him so what you’re saying makes no sense. If he ran away without saying anything, you’d be claiming he’s a coward and won’t look the people who pay his wages in the eye.
People like this spin their own narratives no matter what they see in front of them
 

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You're making assumptions.
He looks like he's in a state of shock rather than attempting to look like a God, hence the nervous smiles. He also put his hands together like a prayer and gestured towards the fans, which is a sign of respect/sorrow in some cultures too.
Pogba is deluded if he didn’t expect stick after such a shit performance & a horrible year overall for the club. Other than making their feelings known via the pocketbook, giving verbal stick to the players is perhaps the only way to really be heard by them. If Pogba was to believe that he would get a standing ovation or sympathy, he is living in even more of a bubble than I thought.
Yes, he was the leader in goals & assists this season, but we also were shit as a team. He gets his goals & assists bonus £ because he plays professional football. Also as a professional footballer, getting stick from supporters is part of the game.
If he is in a state of shock now, good luck in the Bernabeu.
 

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You missed that interview before one of the biggest matches of our season followed by a non-stop barrage of Marca articles trying to unsettle him? All the other ‘he wants out’ articles in other newspapers.

I don’t know if any fans abused Hererra. I watched the game at home.
They didn’t abuse him because we would have seen it and plus why should they abuse Herrera he’s been a good servant.

My point is we are talking about an interview months back. Everytime the guy has an average game he’s the villain. He was the villain at the middle of the season been caused a virus. We have allowed the media to decide Pogba’s fate.
 

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16 goals and 14 assists in this crappy team, and he's getting abuse whilst Rashford, Smalling, Young and co get a pass like usual...
12 were penalties. Take them off him and give them to anyone else and those stats look awful.

Pogba tunred up for 10 weeks of the season. He's the one player we look for to give us some momentum and most games he's been awful.

It's embarrassing how our fans are sticking up for him. His attitude stinks. Jose was bang on the money.
 

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good luck in the Bernabeu.
Bernabeu ain't run by stupid clueless people. May be zidane likes him but there ain't no way Madrid is coming and getting him for the price. They are way smarter now than our pathetic board.
 

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And we have to consider that the players don't have the same physic either, Pogba isn't a small player if he manages to match the type of efforts that far smaller reach than he will on the freak side of things.
I agree. He lacks agility and acceleration so he’s often caught behind. That said, Matic and Mctominay are of similar build and cover more distance.

It’s not as straight forward though considering he also has played more minutes than both of them so using a per 90mins factor isn’t a linear comparison when one player has played a lot more minutes, hence why I’m saying the gap isn’t significant.
Neither variable is ideal, but both variables show that he isn’t ‘well behind’ he’s running a lot more than the vast majority of midfielders.
There’s a gap yes, but he’s hardly been lazy.
I don’t see a better metric than distance covered per 90 in all honestly.

Eriksen has actually played slightly more minutes this season across all comps, 4036 to 4012 and B Silva has played 3935.

Compared to the rest of our team

Herrera covered 11.7km per 90. Matic 11.5km. Fred 11.74. Mctominay 11.76.

Matic and Mctominay are tall and slim like Pogba too. Compared to Dacoure at Watford, another player of similar build, he covers 11.61km per game and has more minutes in the PL although less overall. Even compared to Eric Dier who is 6ft 2in and what I would consider as cumbersome he comes up short against 11.41km.

I don’t know the full data but I’d guess he’s at the lower end of distance covered for a midfielder per 90
 
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12 were penalties. Take them off him and give them to anyone else and those stats look awful.

Pogba tunred up for 10 weeks of the season. He's the one player we look for to give us some momentum and most games he's been awful.

It's embarrassing how our fans are sticking up for him. His attitude stinks. Jose was bang on the money.
Even if you take the penalty out, the stats are very good for a midfielder.
 

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Even if you take the penalty out, the stats are very good for a midfielder.
Nothing spectacular. Ryan Fraser probably has better if you take his pens away. This is a £90m footballer we're talking about.
 

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Speaking about discipline didn't lou played at a time when players used to turn to training drunk? Also wtf has this guy ever won? Some Scottish league titles? A second division title? The FA Cup? He is speaking about a guy who won titles at a top league and the WC. I'd expect the likes of scholes criticising pogba but lou?
 

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I seen another video of this, basically 2 fans throwing f bombs and all sorts at Pogba while he stood there kinda shrugging his shoulders.
I get we as fans are frustrated and he's grossly overpaid but still didn't feel right.
 

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They didn’t abuse him because we would have seen it and plus why should they abuse Herrera he’s been a good servant.

My point is we are talking about an interview months back. Everytime the guy has an average game he’s the villain. He was the villain at the middle of the season been caused a virus. We have allowed the media to decide Pogba’s fate.
There’s plenty on here that have turned on Hererra but the match going fans tend to be different. I guess it depends on if you think Pogba is an innocent actor in all the noise around him. Pogba has been my absolute favourite player for a while but I have become very sceptical he is an entirely innocent party in the Madrid saga. I do believe he’s agitating for a move and the way in which it was done, in part, undermined our run in.
 

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This sort of thing is one of the biggest reasons he pissed fans off. You can show me all the km/90 stats you want but when CMs can’t be arsed tracking runners like this it will obviously wind matchgoing fans up.
I've seen worse defending from our defenders.
 

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Speaking about discipline didn't lou played at a time when players used to turn to training drunk? Also wtf has this guy ever won? Some Scottish league titles? A second division title? The FA Cup? He is speaking about a guy who won titles at a top league and the WC. I'd expect the likes of scholes criticising pogba but lou?
Ozil has done that too. He has won titles in a team where his weight was carried around by others and that team still wins titles without him so its an indication of how much really was his contributions in those titles.

World cup was one competition where he was focussed as if he didn't he would be nationally abused by the fans and there could be many men ready to replace him if he didn't turn up as manager wanted him to be. Also world cup ain't the same level of football compared to high level leagues and champions league.
 

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Pogba is deluded if he didn’t expect stick after such a shit performance & a horrible year overall for the club. Other than making their feelings known via the pocketbook, giving verbal stick to the players is perhaps the only way to really be heard by them. If Pogba was to believe that he would get a standing ovation or sympathy, he is living in even more of a bubble than I thought.
Yes, he was the leader in goals & assists this season, but we also were shit as a team. He gets his goals & assists bonus £ because he plays professional football. Also as a professional footballer, getting stick from supporters is part of the game.
If he is in a state of shock now, good luck in the Bernabeu.
He's our top goal scorer and top assist man.
 

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12 were penalties. Take them off him and give them to anyone else and those stats look awful.

Pogba tunred up for 10 weeks of the season. He's the one player we look for to give us some momentum and most games he's been awful.

It's embarrassing how our fans are sticking up for him. His attitude stinks. Jose was bang on the money.
Yep he's the problem

Enjoy the likes of Young, Smalling, Phil jones and Lingard in the team next year.