Pogba apologises to fans after Cardiff

[villain]

They do the division by matches played rather than per 90 minutes, counting sub apps as full apps. Eriksen started on the bench more which he was has less minutes. If you do it by per 90 minutes the gap is significant (I think) That said, I’ve had a few beers and the way I’m working it out has Eriksen at 14km per 90 which is surely impossible. 12km + is what you’d expect from a hard working midfielder but I’m sure Bernardo Silva covered the most ground in a game this season at 13.75km or something. My head is pickled admittedly.

Yeah it looks like they're counting a sub as a full appearance, and I agree that B Silva is probably the most hard working midfielder in the league - he's averaging 10.53km on the same site (just to keep the base comparison fair)

I don't doubt that Pogba runs less than them, but the original comment was that the difference between how much he runs versus someone like Eriksen was significant.
With 300 more odd minutes in a considerably worse side - I don't think it's fair to say Pogba's effort was well behind Eriksen's.

 

[TMDaines]

And the cherry on top? Doing the same clumsy flirting with Real Madrid we endured when “CR7” got bored of life in Manchester.

None of this means he isn’t our best player. Or that he’s incapable of playing well. Or even that the criticism is deserved. But it is understandable. Genuinely baffled at how anyone can’t wrap their heads round something so obvious.

Not you too with the Pogba flirting with Madrid bollocks. There’s literally no way to answer a question about a potential move that can’t be spun. Dismiss it out of hand and you can’t get quoted as refusing to be honest and commit. Take it as a compliment and people assume you want to leave. All of the quotes over the last 12 months have been spurious at best. Journalists aren’t going to ask our other players about a move as there is no juicy headlines to be had as very few of them will take a step up upon leaving. Who gives a feck about Darmian going? Raiola gets stick, but he barely talks about his clients publicly either.

So committed that he’s fecked off.

Mate. White text. It was dripping with sarcasm.

 

[Rado_N]

God I hate people.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

It doesn't detract from my actual point, which you fail to grasp. He joined us as the highest earner or one of the highest earners. He still is. He earns multiples more than players that are twice as good as he is.

And feck off with your stats. He's the best of a bad bunch, that doesn't make him tremendous. He was good for 3 months this season, if you think that's world class or close you need to re-evaluate your expectations.

Thanks for your contribution, have a nice day.

 

[Garethw]

Mate. White text. It was dripping with sarcasm.

Sorry mate. Missed that. There are so many on here sucking Herrera’s ballsack that I just assumed you were being serious.

 

[crossy1686]

Why? Just curious. I love Herrera and could you blame him for leaving after the way the club treated him?

The way the club treated him? People are on zero hour contracts at places like Sports Direct and Herrera had a contract on the table for 12 months, which he chose not to sign and sign somewhere else instead. I wish I was treated as badly as he was...

 

[Adnan]

Anderson was never abused even though he was poor overall and not exactly a top professional and he wasn’t English.

Fletcher was getting abuse and he was an academy player, was as white as you could possibly want.

Park was one of the most loved players by the fans and he was Asian.

Rooney was abused, Giggs at some point.

I don’t know what kind of examples do you want.

The difference back then was, that we were winning league titles and competing for the top honours.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Yeah it looks like they're counting a sub as a full appearance, and I agree that B Silva is probably the most hard working midfielder in the league - he's averaging 10.53km on the same site (just to keep the base comparison fair)

I don't doubt that Pogba runs less than them, but the original comment was that the difference between how much he runs versus someone like Eriksen was significant.
With 300 more odd minutes in a considerably worse side - I don't think it's fair to say Pogba's effort was well behind Eriksen's.

I get Bernardo Silva’s at 11.95km average per 90. Eriksen’s at 11.83km per 90 and Pogba’s at 10.42km per 90.

I do think it is a significant gap when talking about margins in elite level sport but we have to consider Mourinho’s conditioning of the squad.

If he stays hopefully Ole can get more out of him.

 

[DLE]

Seems to be responding to getting some abuse from the fans. Thoughts?

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Look at that idiot with his shirt off. All about Pogba, not the club. Please leave in the summer.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Not you too with the Pogba flirting with Madrid bollocks. There’s literally no way to answer a question about a potential move that can’t be spun. Dismiss it out of hand and you can’t get quoted as refusing to be honest and commit. Take it as a compliment and people assume you want to leave. All of the quotes over the last 12 months have been spurious at best. Journalists aren’t going to ask our other players about a move as there is no juicy headlines to be had as very few of them will take a step up upon leaving. Who gives a feck about Darmian going? Raiola gets stick, but he barely talks about his clients publicly either.

You’re missing my point.

It doesn’t matter whether these factors that result in him being singled out to get stick are fair or not.

I’m just explaining why he’s getting so much shit, to people who seem to be baffled about the motivations behind the criticism (and/or assume the critical fans are racist)

 

[Denis79]

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This is disgusting from the fans.

Don't agree, he was wrong to single him out but has the right to call them shit, they are shit, all of them. The guy probably spends a lot of money and time to support the club and has every right to show he's unhappy with the effort the players put in.

 

[JPRouve]

I get Bernardo Silva’s at 11.95km average per 90. Eriksen’s at 11.83km per 90 and Pogba’s at 10.42km per 90.

I do think it is a significant gap when talking about margins in elite level sport but we have to consider Mourinho’s conditioning of the squad.

If he stays hopefully Ole can get more out of him.

And we have to consider that the players don't have the same physic either, Pogba isn't a small player if he manages to match the type of efforts that far smaller reach than he will on the freak side of things.

 

[Lord Zlatan]

Don't agree, he was wrong to single him out but has the right to call them shit, they are shit, all of them. The guy probably spends a lot of money and time to support the club and has every right to show he's unhappy with the effort the players out in.

This...i have to book flights and hotels to go to games....seen absolute garbage this year and it cost me thousands and valuable holidays off work. Didnt renew my season ticket. Dont post much on here but disgusted with this team and pogba in particular. he can do one. All the talk in this forum about turning on our only world class player....would he get in the city or liverpool first 11....

 

[villain]

I get Bernardo Silva’s at 11.95km average per 90. Eriksen’s at 11.83km per 90 and Pogba’s at 10.42km per 90.

I do think it is a significant gap when talking about margins in elite level sport but we have to consider Mourinho’s conditioning of the squad.

If he stays hopefully Ole can get more out of him.

It’s not as straight forward though considering he also has played more minutes than both of them so using a per 90mins factor isn’t a linear comparison when one player has played a lot more minutes, hence why I’m saying the gap isn’t significant.
Neither variable is ideal, but both variables show that he isn’t ‘well behind’ he’s running a lot more than the vast majority of midfielders.
There’s a gap yes, but he’s hardly been lazy.

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

Fans of this club are a disgrace

Why? For calling players out on their pathetic performances?

 

[Rado_N]

Look at that idiot with his shirt off. All about Pogba, not the club. Please leave in the summer.

fecking cnut giving his shirt to a fan.

 

[Green_Red]

He doesn’t look like Steven Gerrard that’s why.

What do you mean by that?

 

[lsd]

fecking cnut giving his shirt to a fan.

I know like seriously why did he think he was standing with no shirt on unless he gave it too a fan?

 

[soapythecat]

Look at that idiot with his shirt off. All about Pogba, not the club. Please leave in the summer.

Maybe give it to a fan? Not Pogba's biggest fan of late, but I doubt he's taken his shirt off just to mince about.

 

[goin4glory]

No one giving abuse to Lingard or Rashford, I'm sure Madrid would pay 100m for either of those.

 

[esmufc07]

There's a reason he didn't get in the team under SAF and was allowed to leave on a free.

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

What’s salary got to do with anything? fecking mindless.

You think how much one earns and how they perform in their job have no correlation?

 

[Shiva87]

Yep ran a considerable amount more than Herrera per match, and played over twice the amount of minutes too.
Not really sure what more he can do considering the lack of talent he's surrounded by.

Sure he was expensive, but he's doing a lot more than other players in the same position as him - who are in better teams (he outscored & out-assisted every liverpool midfielder combined in the league for example, and out-ran them all too on average while playing more minutes) - what more can he alone do?

Agree! At least two of us think alike. Our general fan base is so divided now, I don’t even know what to say. Disheartening to say the least.

We all speak about the club being in shambles - but so are the Fans. I guess I’ll try to switch off till July 1. Ole made some serious statements in his pre Cardiff embargoed pressser - like targeted off season fitness programs, hunger, transfers, squad preparedness etc. Maybe it’s time to hibernate as this is going to be a long and hard summer.

Although in GOT terms, winter is here!

 

[JPRouve]

fecking cnut giving his shirt to a fan.

I will revive your faith in people, listen to that.

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[Dan_F]

It’s been pointed out plenty that he gave his shirt to a fan in the SAF stand, and was walking around slower giving the fans more time than any other player.

That video is honestly a joke. I would bet a big sum of money that guy voted for brexit.

 

[Lennon7]

I will revive your faith in people, listen to that.

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Now that’s ridiculous. Macari always struck me as someone who’s prone to bollock dropping, and this is one.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Why? For calling players out on their pathetic performances?

- singling out our most talented player
- he wasnt even that bad today
- grown man acting like a cnut shouting abuse in front of children

 

[MrSingh2002]

That's not Pogba apologising. That's Pogba using disgruntled fans to get away.

 

[crossy1686]

Don't agree, he was wrong to single him out but has the right to call them shit, they are shit, all of them. The guy probably spends a lot of money and time to support the club and has every right to show he's unhappy with the effort the players put in.

Pogba hung around after everyone else had gone, giving it the big 'look at me, I'm big enough to stand here and take the abuse' knowing full well he can walk into the dressing room later and say that he was abused by the fans while everyone else ran away.

Now he's singled out as a victim instead of the anger being directed at the team. Gives him an easy out for Madrid.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Isn’t pogba in the middle of trying to engineer a move to Real Madrid?
Didn’t pogba spend half of the season deliberately downing tools because he didn’t like the manager?

And what’s your point?

 

[Lord Zlatan]

I will revive your faith in people, listen to that.

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yes give the shirt to a kid......then get the feck into the dressing room..why stand there posing with your top off when youve just failed to beat a relegated team two weeks running? these cnuts dont understand the meaning of the word shame.

 

[DLE]

Maybe give it to a fan? Not Pogba's biggest fan of late, but I doubt he's taken his shirt off just to mince about.

Sure. But the posture and all is rather my point. Self consumed he is.

 

[Patrick08]

You missed that interview before one of the biggest matches of our season followed by a non-stop barrage of Marca articles trying to unsettle him? All the other ‘he wants out’ articles in other newspapers.

I don’t know if any fans abused Hererra. I watched the game at home.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

There's a reason he didn't get in the team under SAF and was allowed to leave on a free.

He chose to leave on a free, And the club paid a world record fee to get him back, he is also our leading creative player
If anything, he proved SAF wrong.

 

[Sweet Square]

I will revive your faith in people, listen to that.

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one of the most agenda-driven & xenophobic fanbases in the whole of world football

 

[Lord Zlatan]

He chose to leave on a free, And the club paid a world record fee to get him back, he is also our leading creative player
If anything, he proved SAF wrong.

he couldnt get in the team and if SAF thought he was worth a place he wouldnt have been allowed to leave on a free....as for buying him back on a world record fee ....different club from the one fergie ran...pogba was bought on a pissing competition from woodward

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Joke supporters. Our fans is expert at driving out players with talent and forgiving the mediocres. he should jump the sinking ship Asap.

When has this ever happened?

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

- singling out our most talented player
- he wasnt even that bad today
- grown man acting like a cnut shouting abuse in front of children

- I wasn’t there so I don’t know who was and wasn’t singled out
- Star players will always get more flak when the team is underperforming
- Shouting abuse in front of children probably happens at every single pro game of football in the country throughout the whole season

 

[Rado_N]

I know that you are fishing but he started 16 PL games at 19 years old during his last season.

What?

 

[Patrick08]

He chose to leave on a free, And the club paid a world record fee to get him back, he is also our leading creative player
If anything, he proved SAF wrong.

No he didnt.