sglowrider
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Top post!Don't understand the calls for him to leave the job. He got us believing again in the UCL and also that we could make top 4 this season. In all honesty, if we had won against Everton, Huddersfield and Cardiff, we would be celebrating qualifying for CL right now. Yes, maybe he should take some of the blame but 2 of the 3 teams i mentioned, we should have absolutely battered them no matter who the manager was. Even after the draw against Chelsea, we were actually still in the hunt for a CL spot.
The game isn't played on the bench, this group of players simply isn't good enough. Yes, they may have immense quality individually but as a team, we are shite. Players are not taking responsibility for their fecking jobs. Is Ole to blame for Young's corner that couldn't even get past the first man, Rashford skying free kicks, De Gea making mistakes in the final few games, Shaw's error in the Huddersfield game or even Sanchez poor form? There's no leader on the pitch. Who's there to pick these guys up when they are not performing? He inherited a group of players that ain't his, so why should he be judged for that? Would Poch have got better results from this group of players? We would never know. When Jose said his greatest achievement was getting 2nd with this team, we laughed at him. And if we believe him now, then getting 6 should be ok for Ole, afterall, this is somewhat Jose's team and he was a serial winner. Had all the experience as a serial winner while Ole is still learning the ropes.
For those saying that Ole is not backing his words about being ruthless and giving the kids a chance. What the feck? Did you really expect him to put out a startling 11 of kids? Those that question his decision to start Smalling Jones and Young, do we have better players in those positions? Rojo? Darmian? Bailly? Our defence is either on the treatment table or simply not good enough. Questioning his decision to drop Lindelof and Shaw in the final game? For feck sake, it was a meaningless game and Lindelof and Shaw was probably 2 of the best players all season. I think its ok to give them an early break. Man for man, the teams we put out there against Everton, Huddersfield and Cardiff, we had better quality throughout the pitch. For those that ask in those games, why didn't we start Chong, Greenwood and Gomes? Yes its exciting to watch the youth plays as they give you that energy that our seinor team doesnt have. But in those games, we were still mathematically in with a shout for top 4. If we play the kids in those games and drop points, shouldnt we then have started with the senior team? Are we gonna blame the youths for missing out on champions league qualification? Should they take the blame for the senior team? Greenwood started last night and did quite well tbh, though he did miss a few chances, but he's only 17. Honestly, i think if Lukaku was in Greenwood position last night, he would have put away a couple of those chances simply because he's more experienced. I'm not putting the blame on Greenwood here, i think he did really well for a 17 yo kid. Point being that it's always easier to look back on things. I think Ole did the right thing by only playing most of the youths when we really didn't had anything to play for or needed a spark. That's what Fergie usually did anyway. Do we want to blood in the youths in a team with Young, Smalling, Jones, Lingard, Alexis etc.. Who are they gonna look up to? Who will be the one that put their arms around the kid shoulders and tell him that he did well?
For me, Ole has every right to be given at least a season to show what he's capable of. Let's face it, we are not one of the stronger teams in England anymore, let alone Europe. Klopp finished 8th in his first season IIRC. But he was given the backing and support. For those wondering why For those wondering why Ole didn't sign any players in the Jan window. FFS, he wasn't even given the job yet. Are we gonna sign players that the next manager doesn't want? If we did that, guess who's making the signings then? Yes. It's our favorite CEO of all time. Isn't that what we all hate? Ole's record against the other big 6 ain't fantastic, but it is not bad either. 3 wins, 3 draws and 2 losses in all competitions i think. Over the last 2 months or so, our better performances were against City and Chelsea. If we had just put in the same amount of effort against Cardiff and Huddersfield, we would have walked away with 5 more points. Why can't we do that? We are becoming like the Liverpool and Arsenal when Fergie was here. Only turning up against the bigger teams and shite against the smaller teams. Doesn't that show a mentality issue among the players which we always ridiculed our rivals for?
Yes Ole doesn't have the qualifications nor the experience needed for the job. But who is to say he wont succeed? And calling for his head at this time? This club is rotten from top to bottom. Even if we appoint Pep, Klopp, Zidane, Conte, Guus, Carlo, Poch we are not even guaranteed to be successful. No one will ever know. We already had LVG and Jose. 2 managers with loads of experience and trophies who couldn't even survive here. Would the rest of them want to come and tarnish their legacy knowing how bad things are with the board here? I highly doubt so. If the Glazers dont sell the club or see that we need a DOF urgently, we are fecked for at least 3-4 more seasons.
We would have no problem attracting quality players. There is quality everywhere, just not the Messis, Ronaldos, Mbappes, Neymars, or even Sancho and De ligt kind of players. Just look at Liverpool, Robertson, Mane, Salah, Van Dijk, Fabinho. All of them not big name players but they put in whats required of them on the pitch. Just 1 year ago, we were laughing at them for buying a 75 million Phil Jones. I hate to keep referencing us to Liverpool but it is the best example for us to follow. We need to buy players that Ole trust and need, not the kind of big names that sulk when things are going down. For next season, I would be happy if we could play the whole season with the same amount of effort and hunger shown by Wolves this time. And... we are not even near that yet.
The only comparison with the old Liverpool we have not spiralled down to has been this.
When we reach that point we know we would have hit rock bottom.
