Arsenal 2018/19

[FootballHQ]

I've defended them at various times this season but Arsenal will finish 7th or 8th next season. Lose a few more games at Emirates where they still have that aura in the league and it will very likely happen.

Beyond the front two they have very little compared to other top teams in this league. 40m transfer budget to correct that....

No Man. United fan can tell me you have poorer 11/squad than Arsenal do. I think you'll finish 5-10 clear of them next season if you make some decent signings.

 

[el3mel]

3rd season in a row in EL.

At least we'll accompany them this time.

 

[KM]

They've had an awful season.

 

[FootballHQ]

Been a poor season

Losing the final in that manner is poor. Not really sure just finishing outside the top 4 is that abysmal though.

 

[Patrick08]

Phew. It would be a night mare to face their banter if they won it and had champions league next season.

 

[T00lsh3d]

Emery should be relieved of his duties

His team, mostly which he inherited, is awful. Plus he has no money to spend. It’s counterproductive to bin him, unless you’re telling me there’s a superstar manager that’s itching to take over at Arsenal

 

[FootballHQ]

2014/15: Champions League Round of 16
2015/16: Champions League Round of 16
2016/17: Champions League Round of 16
2017/18: Europa League Semi-final
2018/19: Europa League Final
2019/20: Europa League

Going into their third straight season of Europa League football, losing Ramsey on a free and likely another summer of underspending. Was said last year that they had about £50M to spend and they ended up spending not much more than that (£70Mish). Their budget for this season is said to be even lower and they've got a hell of a lot they need to do. Going to be a struggle.

Said this in the match thread but is a major european club that underwhlemes in europe as much as Arsenal do? As soon as they play a streetwise european team they have no answers.

Were punchbags in knock out rounds in CL for last 5-6 years of Wenger's reign and now can't even qualify for it. Even in their miracle run of 2006 they couldn't get over the line like Liverpool and Chelsea did in their years (and Spurs could well do).

Two european trophies in their entire history.

 

[Raw]

Bloody joke we finished below them. Our own fault for losing to Cardiff and drawing to Huddersfield really

 

[el3mel]

I think they're done. They're more likely to turn to a new Everton the next few years than to make a comeback. Of course we can also follow them, nothing guaranteed.

 

[bond19821982]

Cheeky bid for Aubameyang or Laca?

Win win situation for both teams. Arsenal wouldn't mind some cash and we get a good striker.

 

[FootballHQ]

His team, mostly which he inherited, is awful. Plus he has no money to spend. It’s counterproductive to bin him, unless you’re telling me there’s a superstar manager that’s itching to take over at Arsenal

Pretty sure most pre season predictions were them to finish 6th, they only finish what 2 points off 3rd which is something I didn't expect in August. Emery dosen't deserve stick for league campaign imo. They were shite away but so were Chelsea, Spurs and for last six weeks Man. United in the run in. Just one of those odd seasons.

Of course he'll be judged on failing to get them into the CL but as Sarri said in his pre match conference judging a manager on a one off cup final is a harsh way to go about things but seems to be a mindset that has now cropped into the top level in last decade.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

There's no possibility of Emery being sacked now, is there?

 

[el3mel]

There's no possibility of Emery being sacked now, is there?

He's an average manager but not sure they'll get anyone better and they have far more problems than just changing the manager I believe.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

There's no possibility of Emery being sacked now, is there?

He shouldn’t be, their squad is incredibly average.

 

[Raw]

There's no possibility of Emery being sacked now, is there?

I doubt it. Unless they get someone like Allegri, he's going to stay.

 

[Hulksmash]

Honestly I see them on 10th in the table in the future. Newcastle is coming and probably Leeds backed by Qatar. Then u
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have West Ham , Everton , Wolves.

Arsenal has a very dark future

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Figured as much, cheers

 

[Guy Incognito]

Missing out on CL isn't as disastrous as it once was.

Arsenal tbf have found their level. Their form has been crap since the turn of the year, they struggle away from home so the one game with CL football riding on it they mucked it up.

Next season could go either way for them.

 

[Ban]

Only club that can cheer me up nowadays.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Missing out on CL isn't as disastrous as it once was.

Arsenal tbf have found their level. Their form has been crap since the turn of the year, they struggle away from home so the one game with CL football riding on it they mucked it up.

Next season could go either way for them.

It is disastrous for them, they were relying on the CL money to buy new players.

 

[RooneyLegend]

Emery should be relieved of his duties

Always said he was garbage. Have no idea why anyone rates him. No issue with getting rid of Wenger, but replacing him with Emery was nothing short of ludicrous.

 

[AJ10]

Don't see any difference between how they played last year and this season. Its looks the same, nice pretty passes then get countered.

 

[FootballHQ]

There's no possibility of Emery being sacked now, is there?

He'll get another year. The bigger problem is they should've asked Wenger to step down around 2015-16. I think letting him stay on another couple and just letting things drift with the squad is hurting them now.

Emery will probably be on verge of sack this time next year as I certainly don't see them being top 4.

 

[FootballHQ]

Don't see any difference between how they played last year and this season. Its looks the same, nice pretty passes then get countered.

Their squad simply isn't that good. Where did you have them finishing in August?

 

[GDaly95]

Average squad, uninspiring manager (imo), they probably won't spend much. Going nowhere fast that lot. Same for Chelsea actually.

And I can't really say that without acknowledging it may be the same for us.

 

[NinjaZombie]

Cheeky bid for Aubameyang or Laca?

Win win situation for both teams. Arsenal wouldn't mind some cash and we get a good striker.

After that performance?

No thanks. I'd rather we take a punt on fresh up and coming player with potential.

 

[Eboue]

He'll get another year. The bigger problem is they should've asked Wenger to step down around 2015-16. I think letting him stay on another couple and just letting things drift with the squad is hurting them now.

Emery will probably be on verge of sack this time next year as I certainly don't see them being top 4.

It doesnt matter. As long as Kroenke owns the club it's impossible to compete at the top.

 

[AJ10]

Their squad simply isn't that good. Where did you have them finishing in August?

Outside top 4 and no doubt their squad isn't good.

I was talking about their play style and mentality which is same as it was under wenger. IMO if you woke up from a coma after 3/4 years and watched Arsenal without seeing the manager, you'd think its still wenger in charge.

 

[FootyGirl88]

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[Guy Incognito]

It is disastrous for them, they were relying on the CL money to buy new players.

They never signed the players they need when they were in the CL, so I don't see this being the same.

The fact that their owner never turned up says it all.

 

[FootballHQ]

It doesnt matter. As long as Kroenke owns the club it's impossible to compete at the top.

Yeah he's a bit of a problem aswell.

 

[AllezLesDiables]

They are in dire shape. 40 mil net transfer “war chest” is not going to cut it.
They’ve needed to spend for years now. It’s only going to get worse as other teams in the PL get stronger financial footing.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

Cheeky bid for Aubameyang or Laca?

Win win situation for both teams. Arsenal wouldn't mind some cash and we get a good striker.

Would be great for us. Arsenal also do not use them optimally. Although it will be hard for Arsenal to advance if they sell the best players they have.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

Their squad simply isn't that good. Where did you have them finishing in August?

Yeah I think the midfield without Ramsey is bottom half level pretty much. I don't rate the others there much at all and Özil is past it.

The strikers are good, but the rest of the team have no players that stand out very much. I like Kolasinac, but he seem to mainly do well as a wing back.

 

[FootballHQ]

Yeah I think the midfield without Ramsey is bottom half level pretty much. I don't rate the others there much at all and Özil is past it.

The strikers are good, but the rest of the team have no players that stand out very much. I like Kolasinac, but he seem to mainly do well as a wing back.

They played Palace at home a few weeks back. Just after Napoli so they refreshed their squad. Had Mavropanos, Jenkinson and El Neny all starting.

I know these aren't regular players but comes to something when Palace who were bottom half for all of the season had imo better players in some positions than Arsenal in Zaha, Wan-Bissaka and Milivojevec.

 

[VorZakone]

Wasn't expecting them to be so shit tonight. Thought they'd turn up.

 

[GlastonSpur]

Missing out on CL isn't as disastrous as it once was.

Arsenal tbf have found their level. Their form has been crap since the turn of the year, they struggle away from home so the one game with CL football riding on it they mucked it up.

Next season could go either way for them.

It's still a loss of anything potentially up to £100m, plus it makes them less attractive for new players.

 

[VP89]

They never signed the players they need when they were in the CL, so I don't see this being the same.

The fact that their owner never turned up says it all.

For a token year perhaps. But for 3 consecutive years? That's a serious downward spiral. They're basically like A.S. Roma now - used to be very good without winning in Europe. Used to win some leagues, but not the most leagues. Had a few legends and were a great side back in the day before regressing to a top 4 side and then a top 6 side.

 

[tomaldinho1]

For a token year perhaps. But for 3 consecutive years? That's a serious downward spiral. They're basically like A.S. Roma now - used to be very good without winning in Europe. Used to win some leagues, but not the most leagues. Had a few legends and were a great side back in the day before progressing to a top 4 side and then a top 6 side.

Quite an apt comparison tbh

Arsenal, Valencia, Roma

 

[Guy Incognito]

It's still a loss of anything potentially up to £100m, plus it makes them less attractive for new players.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/27/arsenal-failure-champions-league-europa-league

Players would still come to Arsenal. Just like they would go to Chelsea once their ban gets lifted. London is a big draw. And the Premier League clubs will get a huge windfall from the next TV deal.

As I said it isn't disastrous. The club isn't going to financially suffer like they did a decade ago. Money comes from all sides now.

They never strengthened as a CL club. They aren't going to spend silly money now when their owner is penny pinching. As Liverpool showed it's about making smart buys that help the team function. Something they haven't in decades.

I don't think it is all doom and gloom for Arsenal. At least they are now staring into reality. You have a better idea of their ambition compared to say 2017 when they won the cup and decided to give Wenger an extension.