Antoine Griezmann signs for Barcelona or maybe not?

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This could be the Odemwingie saga all over again. Announced prematurely that he's leaving without knowing if the funds would be ready for him or not. I for one dont care for him, he's a snake and not one to be trusted.
 

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With all of these possibilities of players in the mix Pogba/Griezmann/Neymar/. Madrid and Barcelona have already made some big signings so far in Hazard/De Jong. I think it leaves us with a free run at Eriksen. I cannot see any of them making a bid for him. We should have him on the back burner as a straight replacement for Pogba. He is a goal/assist machine.
Id like Eriksen here but Levy would charge us more than any other European club for him like what he did with Bale and Im not sure Eriksen wants to play in the Europa next season.
 

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Id like Eriksen here but Levy would charge us more than any other European club for him like what he did with Bale and Im not sure Eriksen wants to play in the Europa next season.
They either accept a lower offer or lose him for a free next season. They have a stadium to pay off as well. There is clearly room to negotiate with Spurs but I doubt Eriksen will want to move to us..
 

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He's already expressed his desire to move on. It started before the CL final. His problem is that he's in the mix with some big names and the buying clubs have bought already. If Juve and Real Madrid are in for Pogba, and Barca are in for Griezmann, then that leaves Eriksen on the shelf.
I'm going to presume he wants to move on to win stuff. Realistically all we offer now is money.
 

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They either accept a lower offer or lose him for a free next season. They have a stadium to pay off as well. There is clearly room to negotiate with Spurs but I doubt Eriksen will want to move to us..
We've never succeeded with Levy. The last time was Berbatov I think, after that, he decided to f*** us over, and the Bale episode will never be forgotten hopefully. Unless Eriksen goes on a food strike or something, he will never be sold to us at a reasonable price.
 

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It was done through Atletico's media outlets, the rumour is that they forced his hands.
That video was done with Pique's company's production, not atletico's media outlets, which made it doubly funny given barcelona were seen as his probable destination :lol:

This year he told them he would leave on may 15th, then atletico promptly went public with it as they were afraid he was planning another video like last year

Anyways, the whole drama angle isn't really anything that should deter a big club, he's one of the best players in the world and by all indications he's never been a problem in the dressing room during the season. He's immature and stupid, but that's nothing a big club shouldn't be able to deal with
 

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We've never succeeded with Levy. The last time was Berbatov I think, after that, he decided to f*** us over, and the Bale episode will never be forgotten hopefully. Unless Eriksen goes on a food strike or something, he will never be sold to us at a reasonable price.
What Bale episode?
 

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With all of these possibilities of players in the mix Pogba/Griezmann/Neymar/. Madrid and Barcelona have already made some big signings so far in Hazard/De Jong. I think it leaves us with a free run at Eriksen. I cannot see any of them making a bid for him. We should have him on the back burner as a straight replacement for Pogba. He is a goal/assist machine.
I was wondering about this too. I don’t know if any of the top sides have a place for him now and if we chucked money at it who knows?
 

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That video was done with Pique's company's production, not atletico's media outlets, which made it doubly funny given barcelona were seen as his probable destination :lol:

This year he told them he would leave on may 15th, then atletico promptly went public with it as they were afraid he was planning another video like last year

Anyways, the whole drama angle isn't really anything that should deter a big club, he's one of the best players in the world and by all indications he's never been a problem in the dressing room during the season. He's immature and stupid, but that's nothing a big club shouldn't be able to deal with
I'm talking about this year, not "La Decision".
 

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What Bale episode?
Levy was supposedly furious that we signed Berbatov instead of City. And so even though Spurs knew Bale wanted Real more than United, they tricked United into a bidding war to drive the price up with zero intention of selling to United.
 

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Levy was supposedly furious that we signed Berbatov instead of City. And so even though Spurs knew Bale wanted Real more than United, they tricked United into a bidding war to drive the price up with zero intention of selling to United.
Really? Because IIRC, we'd pretty much agreed everything with Bale by early June and by then he wasn't even considering other destinations. So either your guys had zero idea on how to conduct a transfer, which seems unlikely, or it's more likely Barnett was the one bullshitting you to possibly increase the size of the fee(and his commission with it)
 

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Really? Because IIRC, we'd pretty much agreed everything with Bale by early June and by then he wasn't even considering other destinations. So either your guys had zero idea on how to conduct a transfer, which seems unlikely, or it's more likely Barnett was the one bullshitting you to possibly increase the size of the fee(and his commission with it)
Hey, I wouldn't discount the idea that United has no idea on how to conduct a transfer, I seriously think even Real Madrid has no idea on how to conduct a transfer when it comes to the fax :lol:.

All I can say is that the story rings a bell, and since then, Levy has never made it easy with United. In fact, I don't think anyone came from Spurs since then.
 

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that squad up on the page is impossible. even if they buy Griez and Neymar, that means they're selling Dembele, Malcolm and Coutinho and that still leaves them with some obvious holes in their squad.
Surely the whole point of getting Griezmann + Neymar is so that they are able to add attacking depth/competition into the squad (Especially when it is pretty clear that Messi is no longer able to play as a RW and thus is better off playing as a No.9/10 while Coutinho is clearly better off as a CM rather than a LW). So there is would be little point in moving from a Dembele/Malcolm/Coutinho/Suarez/Messi range of attacking options to a Neymar/Griezmann/Messi/Suarez range of attacking options.

spending all the money on those two means they will have sound first 11 but overall rather thin squad and will suffer when they have to rotate.
Which is why they kind of have to keep all 3 players in the first place, otherwise you are going to have the same lack of depth issues (that alongside other factors has helped stopped them from winning the CL despite their domestic dominance) after all that effort and money has been spent. Whereas if you keep all 3, then you would have to players of a proven decent quality (at the very least) in every position in the team apart from possiblity Left Back maybe.

Semedo asked to leave if I'm not mistaken so their fullback will be Roberto who's rather underwhelming player.
Any particular reason for this? Especially when Roberto is far more of a midfielder than a fullback if you ask me. Rather what they should be doing is signing another RB to rotate/compete with Semedo (such as Cancelo) and move Roberto into becoming a backup midfielder.

they had no backup to Alba and they most likely won't have it this year. there's good chance they'll have some youngsters covering both positions.
Kind of shows how much of a idiotic decision it was to sell Lucas Digne (one would hope they have a buyback clause on the player when they sold him to Everton...) in the first place. Regardless if they cannot bring Digne back from Merseyside, then they should look at bringing back Grimaldo from Benfica (especially if he is available for 40-60 million euros) to address this issue.

they also didn't have backup striker last year so if they actually manage to buy both Griezmann and Neymar, that just means one of the big names is going to sit on the bench more, like Coutinho.
Surely Suarez & Messi would welcome such a move considering how the attacking burden is far too reliant on the two of them (especially the latter). Likewise the increased competition for places would likely result better perfomances from all their attacking players, performances which are needed for them to win another CL.

also, one or two of Vidal/Rakitic/Rafinha is leaving as well
Personally I feel Rafinha (and maybe Vidal) should be the ones to leave the club. Rakitic on the other hand is more than good enough to be a squad option at least.

they can't afford to buy both of them and also buy decent covers for other positions. they certainly can't afford to buy both of them + De Ligt unless they plan to have fixed first 11 and only youngsters the bench.
They can afford to buy Griezmann considering how they managed to run break-even transfer wise both during last season & with the transfer activity they have done so far, likewise Neymar's transfer can be funded though extending the proposed naming rights deal for the Nou Camp (as I explained in my last post) while the transfers of Grimaldo, Cancelo & De Ligt can be covered though a combination of loan-to-buy deals & paying said transfer fees in installments (especially when they would not need to make any major transfer activity over the next few years if they squad issues where all addressed this window).

We've had loads of talented big name players over the last 6 and look how has that turned out. We need hungry, hard-working players with all to prove and talented at that. That's what I think anyway.
Other than (and for the record I am excluding those who where finished at the highest level or who where recovering from injury) Juan Mata, Di Maria, Pogba, Ibrahimovic, Matic, Lukaku & Sanchez, how many "talented big names" have actually signed for United since Fergie left.

Because when you compare to what Real Madrid & Barcelona have brought (the sort of clubs we are supposed to be competing with), its not really that many when you look at it.

With all of these possibilities of players in the mix Pogba/Griezmann/Neymar/. Madrid and Barcelona have already made some big signings so far in Hazard/De Jong. I think it leaves us with a free run at Eriksen. I cannot see any of them making a bid for him. We should have him on the back burner as a straight replacement for Pogba. He is a goal/assist machine.
Why not sign him up as a midfield partner alongside Pogba? I mean its not like we have a lot of great quality in our midfield in the first place (especially with Herrera gone) while playing with a 3-man midfield consisting of 2 Hybrid 8/10s + 1 No.6 (Which funny enough helped City win a Domestic Treble Last Season) would be an improvement to what midfield partnerships we have seen in recent years.

Levy was supposedly furious that we signed Berbatov instead of City. And so even though Spurs knew Bale wanted Real more than United, they tricked United into a bidding war to drive the price up with zero intention of selling to United.
Why would Levy be unhappy about City not signing Berbatov (instead of United) when they where not even in the discussion to sign him until the last few hours before the window shut (when the takeover happened)?
 

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Why would Levy be unhappy about City not signing Berbatov (instead of United) when they where not even in the discussion to sign him until the last few hours before the window shut (when the takeover happened)?
Levy supposedly accepted City's bid but United hijacked the deal, or something like that. Who knows. The point is, he's not doing us any favor anymore.
 

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Other than (and for the record I am excluding those who where finished at the highest level or who where recovering from injury) Juan Mata, Di Maria, Pogba, Ibrahimovic, Matic, Lukaku & Sanchez, how many "talented big names" have actually signed for United since Fergie left.
Well, that's quite a pool of players already and it's easy to discard those who were finished in hindsight. The Caf was ecstatic with players like Schweinsteiger or Falcao. Then you've got Depay who was anything but finished. That gives you ten big name, hugely talented players we've signed only one of whom (Ibrahimovic) was a resounding success. Even then you'll find question marks from some people as he only lasted one season (injury) and missed plenty sitters. Surely it's enough a sample to suggest signing big players hasn't served us well these past few years for some reason?
 

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This could be the Odemwingie saga all over again. Announced prematurely that he's leaving without knowing if the funds would be ready for him or not. I for one dont care for him, he's a snake and not one to be trusted.
Oooeeeey haven't heard that name in a while....jeez he would improve maybe even start in our existing squad wouldn't he
 

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Another one who they'll be wanting to sell in 12 months when he doesn't meet their lofty expectations
 

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If I were them I would have bought De Ligt from Ajax for 70 mill and give him the remaining 50 mill as a sign on bonus.
 

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Another one who they'll be wanting to sell in 12 months when he doesn't meet their lofty expectations
:lol:

Mundo Deportivo are already writing dozens of articles ready to be published.
 

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Done dealio. Please create a thread in footie forums.
 

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Atletico say they want 200m euros instead of 120m euros. So drama back on boys.
 

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Atletico say they want 200m euros instead of 120m euros. So drama back on boys.
Not really back on. Atletico can complain all they want, but the fact is that his release clause was paid in full after the 1st of July. Barca will refer them to La Liga if they wish to complain further.

This is just Atletico being hurt because they lost one of their best players.
 

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Where are my popcorn. Take the shady barca club to court damn it. Ban them forever :lol:
 

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This could be fun:lol:

Atleti would need to produce some evidence I should think.
 

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Griezmann wasn't stupid enough to post anything on twitter/instagram of him signing a contract before the clause went down was he? You really wouldn't put it past him bring that stupid.
 

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Wouldn't they try to get this 80m in court later on? He must've signed and be moving due to the new buyout and it's up to Atletico to pursue the old one with evidence in court over the coming months/years no?
 

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Griezmann wasn't stupid enough to post anything on twitter/instagram of him signing a contract before the clause went down was he? You really wouldn't put it past him bring that stupid.
Why? What makes you think that he is stupid?
 

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Insane transfer. Griezmann is underrated, made the top 3 of the Ballon D’Or two different times with good reason and he’s by far the best player of the team that most challenged Barca in the league in the past 2 years. He was Atletico’s best creator, goalscorer and led their press like few can do. Insanely consistent across the seasons there and often a big game player too.

Will be interesting to see what they change to fit him in though.
 

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Insane transfer. Griezmann is underrated, made the top 3 of the Ballon D’Or two different times with good reason and he’s by far the best player of the team that most challenged Barca in the league in the past 2 years. He was Atletico’s best creator, goalscorer and led their press like few can do. Insanely consistent across the seasons there and often a big game player too.

Will be interesting to see what they change to fit him in though.
Are Atletico going to be relying on Morata now or have they signed someone else as well?
 

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Atletico think he signed in March, during the title race, hence the dispute?

So they're asking for the €80m extra from that?

Would be pretty ridiculous if that's true.