Ole has to start agitating over lack of signings

[Ranchero]

Firstly i have to say the signs are all good pre-season. The youngsters particularly Greenwood and Gomes have lit up our warm ups.

But we are in the home straight of the transfer window and the start of the new season and still have signed up just two players. And this is heading the way previous transfer windows have gone. Lots of discussions without sealing the deal. All huff and puff and no actual stuff.

What Ole needs to do though is start agitating. Not like Jose. But saying nothing is accepting this situation.

He has stated during pre-season that we "have" to replace players we have lost.

We have lost Herrera and Fellaini and not replaced them.

The Bruno Fernandes and Maguire sagas are becoming as long drawn out as United fans have come to expect.

And the normal course of events, if past evidence is anything to go by, will be it will come to nothing.

This is unacceptable.

Central midfield is a problem position for us and we need quality. We cannot be hoodwinked by a few positive pre-season friendlies.

If Ole has been brought in because he won't rock the boat then fans have every right to be angry.

We are supposed to be investing in a team that has a desire to win trophies.

And now is the time for Ole to grow a pair, and become less babyfaced and more assassin.

 

[Wumminator]

We will be fine. I'm looking forward to starting the season. We'll have one or two new signings by then as well.

 

[SATA]

He won't rock the boat and will keep everything in house which is the absolute right thing to do. And he has two signings already and probably already knows one or two more will come. Nothing for him to get agitated here really

 

[DoomSlayer]

Ole has nothing to do with the transfers, making a public confrontation with the board and owners will only demoralise the whole squad.

 

[Oldyella]

Ole has nothing to do with the transfers, making a public confrontation with the board and owners will only demoralise the whole squad.

We had an example of this just a year ago!

 

[WR10]

No he was hired to be a yes man. Jose and Van gaal read right through Ed

 

[DoomSlayer]

No he was hired to be a yes man. Jose and Van gaal read right through Ed

And they failed and got sacked.

 

[Samid]

Yeah picking fights with the owners and CEO will only end well.

 

[Utd heap]

Fortunately Ole is not 15 years old, nor has the window closed.

Chill out.

 

[Bubz27]

It's too late anyway. He wanted his signings ready for the beginning of pre-season, it's nearly the end. But we all jumped the gun when we moaned about it even though we could all see what was happening.

 

[Ole’s Wheel]

Unfortunately, Ole doesn’t have the day/power that he initially thought.

Remember this?

...it’s just as crucial to get rid of the deadwood as it is to get new signings and there’s a number of those players that shouldn’t be here which Ole hinted to but still are as the new season arrived upon us.

Point being? Sit down and put your seatbelt on. Upper management/ownership will continue to intervene in football operations. Just look at the video for yourself, it speaks for itself.

 

[Thiagoal]

A manager has to work under whatever conditions present themselves at a given time! I’d love to have a whinge and argue with my CEO over numerous issues but I know that it’ll not make any difference given the current macro financial position we’re in! All it’ll do is piss them off and make our relationship worse!

Anyway I expect at least two signings before the window shuts so it’s irrelevant

 

[Sereques]

No he should not. This is exactly what SAF went through and no one heard nothing. Even you lot started praising Gill. The club has been a laughing stock for 6years. Ole job is not on the pitch alone, we need to improve our image.
Let Ole deal with it and heavens on his side he will do well. This is exactly what I wanted from mourinho. They didn’t buy the players you want? Then use the academy. Sadly, Mourinho wasn’t matured enough. We all know what is going on, we don’t need a manager crying out at every press conference.

If Ole can no longer work under the conditions, then he should walk.

 

[Kostov]

If he doesn't get at least 2 more signing by the end of the window and keeps quiet, he should keep quiet also when he gets sacked eventually.

 

[DoomSlayer]

No he should not. This is exactly what SAF went through and no one heard nothing. Even you lot started praising Gill. The club has been a laughing stock for 6years. Ole job is not on the pitch alone, we need to improve our image.
Let Ole deal with it and heavens on his side he will do well. This is exactly what I wanted from mourinho. They didn’t buy the players you want? Then use the academy. Sadly, Mourinho wasn’t matured enough. We all know what is going on, we don’t need a manager crying out at every press conference.

This, so much this. Go for the board and owners, not the managers, it's so obvious to see what the real issue is.

 

[Varun]

Internally yes, publicly no.

 

[Adam-Utd]

I'm sure he's kicking off with Woodward in the background but you never kick off in public, it shows weakness and dissaray.

The moment Jose started doing this everything fell apart.

 

[sullydnl]

He really doesn't.

He has made it absolutely clear that this rebuild will be taking place over several years, so there's no major need to put public pressure on his bosses for huge change in this window. Nobody is (or rather should) be expecting too much next year.

As long as he feels he's strengthened enough to make up the five point gap to a top four place he can afford to be less confrontational, especially given that doesn't preclude him from asking for more in private. With pre-season having gone well and the likely knowledge that further deals are still being pursued, Solskjaer can afford to continue his more sanguine approach for now.

 

[ivaldo]

Point being? Sit down and put your seatbelt on. Upper management/ownership will continue to intervene in football operations. Just look at the video for yourself, it speaks for itself.

No top club gives the manager the autonomy you are asking for Ole, not a single one.

 

[TheLittleOne]

Internally yes, publicly no.

Absolutely. Talk bad about your boss to the press and bring bad publicity to the company. You don't have to be a future teller to know how that ends.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

Jose did that last year but nothing happened.

 

[Ole’s Wheel]

No top club gives the manager the autonomy you are asking for Ole, not a single one.

To get rid of the same crap players we’ve kept around for years that even Ole publicly voiced last season?

Yes, so much to ask for

 

[Wumminator]

To get rid of the same crap players we’ve kept around for years that even Ole publicly voiced last season?

Yes, so much to ask for

Some of them have already left the club.

Some more will be leaving soon.

 

[ivaldo]

To get rid of the same crap players we’ve kept around for years that even Ole publicly voiced last season?

Yes, so much to ask for

Great pivot. Why don't you actually address the point being made instead of sidestepping. While we are on it, give me an example of a manager that has the control over transfers with influence from someone above them. Just one.

 

[Havak]

Mourinho rocking the boat publicly turned our defence from one of the best to one of the worst... I'd rather he convince the players we have they're better than they are for now. Keep the arguments with the board over whom he wants and doesn't behind closed doors.

I think it's pretty obvious what Ole wants for the most part but I am sure there will have to be compromises. I'll be surprised if we don't get another signing or two over the line and ship out two or three as well.

 

[Tincanalley]

Unfortunately, Ole doesn’t have the day/power that he initially thought.

Remember this?

...it’s just as crucial to get rid of the deadwood as it is to get new signings and there’s a number of those players that shouldn’t be here which Ole hinted to but still are as the new season arrived upon us.

Point being? Sit down and put your seatbelt on. Upper management/ownership will continue to intervene in football operations. Just look at the video for yourself, it speaks for itself.

"I'm an optimist by trade..."

 

[Tincanalley]

Look. Ole agitated against the Glazer takeover when it happened first. He was a player then. As a United insider, Ole knew full well what he was getting into. Did he negotiate tough when he was offered the job? Who knows, but I doubt it. Ole is without leverage over the owners or their sock puppet.

 

[Ranchero]

A manager has to work under whatever conditions present themselves at a given time! I’d love to have a whinge and argue with my CEO over numerous issues but I know that it’ll not make any difference given the current macro financial position we’re in! All it’ll do is piss them off and make our relationship worse!

Anyway I expect at least two signings before the window shuts so it’s irrelevant

It is not an expectation that has its impetus in any of our previous transfer windows.

 

[mariachi-19]

The stupidity of this forum knows no bounds. You dont air your dirty laundry in public and Ole is intelligent enough and sensible enough to do it in the right.

What im sick of seeing on this forum is a complete lack of common sense on the grounds that because United wont pay ridiculous amounts for overpriced players, it is seen board's not backing Ole. The cash cow that other clubs seem to see United as needs to stop and if that means that we dont pay 80-90 million for a defender, I dont care.

 

[Escobar]

We will be fine. I'm looking forward to starting the season. We'll have one or two new signings by then as well.

No we are not. We have severe on and off field issues and the club refuses to change or invest. You can close your eyes and just focus on our games but the last 6 years proved that we have serious issues

 

[Ranchero]

Yeah picking fights with the owners and CEO will only end well.

Nobody is saying you should go the Josr way. But there are ways and means of making things clear.

If he says we have to replace players and do.not he has an obligation as a manager of the football team to not just be the nodding dog. That is not to day he is. But he clearly wanted the business done in time for pre-season.

No top club worth it's salt lets a first team player go without having a replacement.

 

[Waynne]

The stupidity of this forum knows no bounds. You dont air your dirty laundry in public and Ole is intelligent enough and sensible enough to do it in the right.

What im sick of seeing on this forum is a complete lack of common sense on the grounds that because United wont pay ridiculous amounts for overpriced players, it is seen board's not backing Ole. The cash cow that other clubs seem to see United as needs to stop and if that means that we dont pay 80-90 million for a defender, I dont care.

This x100.
I'm sick to death for United overpaying on players. Ed take your time to get the right deal.

 

[Ranchero]

The stupidity of this forum knows no bounds. You dont air your dirty laundry in public and Ole is intelligent enough and sensible enough to do it in the right.

What im sick of seeing on this forum is a complete lack of common sense on the grounds that because United wont pay ridiculous amounts for overpriced players, it is seen board's not backing Ole. The cash cow that other clubs seem to see United as needs to stop and if that means that we dont pay 80-90 million for a defender, I dont care.

You have totally missed the point.

 

[That'sHernandez]

Because agitating over signings did Mourinho a lot of good.

 

[Eric's Seagull]

I think Ole probably sees the need for transfers as much as the rest of us but I feel Woody is content with the squad the way it is. He may think it it good enough to challende for top 4 I don't.

I think Woody values his own opinion so highly that he is unwilling to take advice from someone like Ole know actually knows about football. Great to see the youngsters do well preseason but I think it will be too much pressure on them to expect them to perform consistently week in week out at such an early stage in their career, which I think Woody is banking on.

I think Woody is gambling in them all making it as first time regulars which i really hope happens but is not a definite hence the need for more players.

 

[Sterling Archer]

As much as I detest Woodward and Judge and their continuing patterns, I disagree. As his first season, I think Ole has to look at this like a clean slate, take this off the cuff and have the best season be can without any complaints.

However, he should have his next transfer list ready will in advance and should a similar scenario occur, then he can come out and throw it down.

... This is why I'm so vocal about getting Woody out. Through all the years of his nonsense, we fans are the only lasting incumbents. We have no excuse to give him more excuses.

 

[DoomSlayer]

As much as I detest Woodward and Judge and their continuing patterns, I disagree. As his first season, I think Ole has to look at this like a clean slate, take this off the cuff and have the best season be can without any complaints.

However, he should have his next transfer list ready will in advance and should a similar scenario occur, then he can come out and throw it down.

... This is why I'm so vocal about getting Woody out. Through all the years of his nonsense, we fans are the only lasting incumbents. We have no excuse to give him more excuses.

We also need to be selling players to buy new ones, but the board is shite at that too.

 

[Ole’s Wheel]

The stupidity of this forum knows no bounds. You dont air your dirty laundry in public and Ole is intelligent enough and sensible enough to do it in the right.

What im sick of seeing on this forum is a complete lack of common sense on the grounds that because United wont pay ridiculous amounts for overpriced players, it is seen board's not backing Ole. The cash cow that other clubs seem to see United as needs to stop and if that means that we dont pay 80-90 million for a defender, I dont care.

So you just expect whoever’s in charge of the team to bend over and take it from the glazers? We’re not some mid tier club - financially, we are the biggest club in the world. And if you’re okay with that mediocrity for our club, then suit yourself. I’ve had enough of the post Fergie era where we are a bunch of clowns and the laughing stock of world football in terms of literal footballing and I sure as hell don’t want the same old to continue on for the next decades.

...what I’m sick of seeing is some people thinking comfortable teams like Leicester should short sell their players they have no obligation of selling. And the fact some people don’t take into account inflation + we’re the biggest club financially in dire need of a CB + the player we are wanting is English upping the price that much more. If you can’t understand that, then don’t expect others to be dumbed down not to either...

 

[Ranchero]

Internally yes, publicly no.

Absolutely. But he has given indications of what he feels publicly. Hence the insightful 'we have to replace' comment. There are ways of doing it without going all Jose.

 

[DoomSlayer]

So you just expect whoever’s in charge of the team to bend over and take it from the glazers? We’re not some mid tier club - financially, we are the biggest club in the world. And if you’re okay with that mediocrity for our club, then suit yourself. I’ve had enough of the post Fergie era where we are a bunch of clowns and the laughing stock of world football in terms of literal footballing and I sure as hell don’t want the same old to continue on for the next decades.

...what I’m sick of seeing is some people thinking comfortable teams like Leicester should short sell their players they have no obligation of selling. And the fact some people don’t take into account inflation + we’re the biggest club financially in dire need of a CB + the player we are wanting is English upping the price that much more. If you can’t understand that, then don’t expect others to be dumbed down not to either...

Blame the board and the Glazers for all this, not the managers. I'm sure Ole would love to have the likes of Sancho, Maguire, Fernandes, Savic and a bunch of other players, but he can't do anything about it realistically.

Throwing a public hissy fit only creates conflict in the club and demoralises the squad.