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it's not about being better or worse, it's just that Lukaku doesn't really fit the profile Ole wants from his #9, simple as that. As soon as Rom realized that, he began flirting with Italy.
 
I guess he felt rejected and unloved when Rashford was picked over him. I mean, Lukaku is quite clearly worse than Rashford, right?
Does Lukaku have a god-given right to be an undisputed starter? He is in the top 5 or 10 best paid players in the PL, the least he could do is fight for the fecking badge and prove himself.
 
Does Lukaku have a god-given right to be an undisputed starter? He is in the top 5 or 10 best paid players in the PL, the least he could do is fight for the fecking badge and prove himself.
He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.
 
He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.
But he played as much as Rashford and probably more than Martial under Ole? If he was a "man", he would have been fighting but instead decided to moan about moving to Italy since around April, just before out games against Barcelona.
 
He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.
Rashford just offered more to the team, we were noticeably more static with him in the team. Lukaku just doesn't have the mobility we're looking for in our current system. I still believe a team playing to his strengths will get 20 goals a season out of him, especially in Italy.
 
But he played as much as Rashford and probably more than Martial under Ole? If he was a "man", he would have been fighting but instead decided to moan about moving to Italy since around April, just before out games against Barcelona.

Rashford just offered more to the team, we were noticeably more static with him in the team. Lukaku just doesn't have the mobility we're looking for in our current system. I still believe a team playing to his strengths will get 20 goals a season out of him, especially in Italy.
Both of you make good points. I will stick by my delusion that Lukaku was ousted by a player who is not better than him. And yes, he needs to go. Soon. It's best for all involved.
 
Honestly, I would happily keep Lukaku if it means rejecting Inters cnutish offer after they put their noses up when we offered more than enough for Perisic back then.
More importantly, can't keep being terrible at selling players. Feels like we the only club that accepts low-ball offers all the time for our players. Its about damn time we stand firm on at least breaking even on what we invested in Lukaku.
If that means keeping him on, well so be it, never know the guy may just become our subpar-super-sub if he plays his cards right from here on.
 
Honestly, I would happily keep Lukaku if it means rejecting Inters cnutish offer after they put their noses up when we offered more than enough for Perisic back then.
More importantly, can't keep being terrible at selling players. Feels like we the only club that accepts low-ball offers all the time for our players. Its about damn time we stand firm on at least breaking even on what we invested in Lukaku.
If that means keeping him on, well so be it, never know the guy may just become our subpar-super-sub if he plays his cards right from here on.
Yeah, not that reliable these days but Sky saying a deal is not close. Also showed some fairly unflattering video of Lukaku running about. Looked like Frank Bruno.
 
How much did they ask for Perisic? cnuts have it coming.

I'd happily keep Lukaku on the bench if it means we don't get fecked by Inter on the negotiating table.
 
it's not about being better or worse, it's just that Lukaku doesn't really fit the profile Ole wants from his #9, simple as that. As soon as Rom realized that, he began flirting with Italy.

Very likely was told by the club to find other clubs as soon as Ole joined. All the flirting could be with club’s blessing. Not one negative comment about him was leaked and we are masking his transfer dealing with a fake injury story.
 
He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.

It's a bit more complicated.

Lukaku was on the other side of this when he was the ultimate first choice under Mourinho, no matter how badly he performed, constantly playing the full 90 mins no matter what the score was. It was simple, Lukaku was his striker and he always plays when fit. He'd go on about his insanely strong mentality to make it no matter what obstacle, his "grow a pair" references to players that were struggling for time on the pitch under Mourinho, how it was just an obstacle they needed to get past.

Now when he finds himself in a situation where he's no longer first choice, and rightly so given his performances over the last 12 months, he has feck all of a pre-season where he's barely involved in anything whatsoever, putting further pressure on us to accept a lowball bid from Inter.

He likes to talk big, but that's about it. There was a November interview where he ridiculed the idea that his physique wasn't good enough.

"That's some BS!" "Yeah, that's some BS. I'm one of the strongest players in the league. I never get injured. I'm always there, so what's the problem?" Lukaku added.

A month later he's blaming his form due to the fact that he gained muscles for the World Cup.
 
It will be hilarious if Conte misses out on Lukaku 2nd time after being almost certain to get him both times :D
 
It will be hilarious if Conte misses out on Lukaku 2nd time after being almost certain to get him both times :D

It would only be hilarious if Conte missing out on him meant Juventus signing him for the fee we want.

Otherwise we'll be stuck with the player with the "strongest mentality in the game"
 
It's a bit more complicated.

Lukaku was on the other side of this when he was the ultimate first choice under Mourinho, no matter how badly he performed, constantly playing the full 90 mins no matter what the score was. It was simple, Lukaku was his striker and he always plays when fit. He'd go on about his insanely strong mentality to make it no matter what obstacle, his "grow a pair" references to players that were struggling for time on the pitch under Mourinho, how it was just an obstacle they needed to get past.

Now when he finds himself in a situation where he's no longer first choice, and rightly so given his performances over the last 12 months, he has feck all of a pre-season where he's barely involved in anything whatsoever, putting further pressure on us to accept a lowball bid from Inter.

He likes to talk big, but that's about it. There was a November interview where he ridiculed the idea that his physique wasn't good enough.

"That's some BS!" "Yeah, that's some BS. I'm one of the strongest players in the league. I never get injured. I'm always there, so what's the problem?" Lukaku added.

A month later he's blaming his form due to the fact that he gained muscles for the World Cup.
Precisely this.
 
It would only be hilarious if Conte missing out on him meant Juventus signing him for the fee we want.

Otherwise we'll be stuck with the player with the "strongest mentality in the game"
I'd rather sell to Juventus even for less money, then to Inter. They fecked us around for Perisic asking 50-60m and made their own bed.
 
Honestly, I would happily keep Lukaku if it means rejecting Inters cnutish offer after they put their noses up when we offered more than enough for Perisic back then.
More importantly, can't keep being terrible at selling players. Feels like we the only club that accepts low-ball offers all the time for our players. Its about damn time we stand firm on at least breaking even on what we invested in Lukaku.
If that means keeping him on, well so be it, never know the guy may just become our subpar-super-sub if he plays his cards right from here on.

They did us a favour. Perisic is a decent player but not worth what they wanted for him and the wrong age. Glad we didn't get him.
 
Inter will have to come up with the money which the say they haven't got until they sell some players. This could go on and on until deadline day.
 
I’m glad we’re holding out on this and not bowing down to Inter.

As a previous poster pointed out that £5-10m gap that people say is nothing actually could be funding smaller things at the club like wages of ground staff, catering etc all the little things that people tend to forget clubs still have to pay for.

As well as that Lukaku is by most definitions a top class striker in that he scores almost every other game throughout his career. If Inter or Juve want him they need to pay up.
 
I'd rather sell to Juventus even for less money, then to Inter. They fecked us around for Perisic asking 50-60m and made their own bed.


Juventus must surely have some players they would exchange which could do us a favour in the short term....

I'd take Matuidi, if it helped to get the Lukaku deal over the line.
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
 
Juventus must surely have some players they would exchange which could do us a favour in the short term....

I'd take Matuidi, if it helped to get the Lukaku deal over the line.
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Of all the players we could take why would we consider a 32 year old CM? I'd rather only take the money really.
 
It's a bit more complicated.

Lukaku was on the other side of this when he was the ultimate first choice under Mourinho, no matter how badly he performed, constantly playing the full 90 mins no matter what the score was. It was simple, Lukaku was his striker and he always plays when fit. He'd go on about his insanely strong mentality to make it no matter what obstacle, his "grow a pair" references to players that were struggling for time on the pitch under Mourinho, how it was just an obstacle they needed to get past.

Now when he finds himself in a situation where he's no longer first choice, and rightly so given his performances over the last 12 months, he has feck all of a pre-season where he's barely involved in anything whatsoever, putting further pressure on us to accept a lowball bid from Inter.

He likes to talk big, but that's about it. There was a November interview where he ridiculed the idea that his physique wasn't good enough.

"That's some BS!" "Yeah, that's some BS. I'm one of the strongest players in the league. I never get injured. I'm always there, so what's the problem?" Lukaku added.

A month later he's blaming his form due to the fact that he gained muscles for the World Cup.
Yeah, there’s certainly something in this. Could also be like someone said that he’s been told to look for a new club, although that seems fairly unlikely, considering the stories coming out about players getting the extra year clause activated through the mail:lol:

Anyhow, I really do look forward to not seeing Rom stumbling about. Good finisher, average footballer.
 
Of all the players we could take why would we consider a 32 year old CM? I'd rather only take the money really.
To repeat....
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Matuidi is exactly the type of MF that allows us to get the best out of Pogba, even if it's only short term until a more permanent solution can be found.
It might be enough to get us top 4 next season which then gives us Champions League to offer to potential signings next Summer.
 
Rashford just offered more to the team, we were noticeably more static with him in the team. Lukaku just doesn't have the mobility we're looking for in our current system. I still believe a team playing to his strengths will get 20 goals a season out of him, especially in Italy.

What is this so called current system? I am trying to understand it.

I think people should just embrace the reality that some managers just don't click with some players and that does not necessarily have to do with a system of play. There are dozens of other possible reasons.
 
I'd take Matuidi, if it helped to get the Lukaku deal over the line.
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! No more buying 30+ players to do high energy roles!!! He may look 10 years younger today but what about tomorrow?
 
To repeat....
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Matuidi is exactly the type of MF that allows us to get the best out of Pogba, even if it's only short term until a more permanent solution can be found.
It might be enough to get us top 4 next season which then gives us Champions League to offer to potential signings next Summer.

Here we go again, '. .to get the best out of Pogba'. I think I have heard that like a hundred times in the last three years. What has not been tried at United '...to get the best out of Pogba'?

I like to keep this Pogba issue as simple as: if he wants out, let him go but get good money or player exchanges for him. If he wants to stay, by all means let him stay but please keep the captain's band away from him.
 
To repeat....
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Matuidi is exactly the type of MF that allows us to get the best out of Pogba, even if it's only short term until a more permanent solution can be found.
It might be enough to get us top 4 next season which then gives us Champions League to offer to potential signings next Summer.
I saw that but I don't think it's a smart idea to take on 32 year old in a new league and on probably big wages (in order for him to switch from a CL contender to Europa league).
And that's not even getting to the fact that Matuidi doesn't even play in the same role as Matic, he'd be more of a Herrera replacement than Matic imo.
 
There are still more goals in Lukaku than in Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, etc. There is a reason why Conte and Sarri rate him well higher than the average caftard.

Imo, Lukaku is not good enough to be the main striker of a PL title-winning team but is more than good enough for a team aiming at top 4. His goals will be probably missed should he leave. Greenwood isn't ready to replace his goals and someone from another league (Dembele) might need time to adapt to the PL.
 
Don't get the "hate" for Inter on this. They did us a favour by asking for too much for Perisic and they're about to do us another favour by taking Lukaku for almost the same amount as we bought him for.
 
Don't get the "hate" for Inter on this. They did us a favour by asking for too much for Perisic and they're about to do us another favour by taking Lukaku for almost the same amount as we bought him for.
Their last bid was £54m. Over £20m short of what we paid.
 
Here we go again, '. .to get the best out of Pogba'. I think I have heard that like a hundred times in the last three years. What has not been tried at United '...to get the best out of Pogba'?.

Well we have heard so much crap from the club about "building the team around Pogba" ever since he arrived 3 years ago, infact Ole is still dishing out the same old rubbish, and yet what exactly has been 'built' around him?
Matic? Fred?
Pogba has deep flaws, no doubt about that, but we've not exactly done anything to get the best from such an expensive asset.
 
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