Shakesy
WW Head of Recruiting
Really? That's weird... Won't be the first time I'm wrong.We were in for him the summer before the World Cup.
Really? That's weird... Won't be the first time I'm wrong.We were in for him the summer before the World Cup.
I guess he felt rejected and unloved when Rashford was picked over him. I mean, Lukaku is quite clearly worse than Rashford, right?Poor "Rom". I wonder how next he might disrespect the club whilst some fans still have his back.
Does Lukaku have a god-given right to be an undisputed starter? He is in the top 5 or 10 best paid players in the PL, the least he could do is fight for the fecking badge and prove himself.I guess he felt rejected and unloved when Rashford was picked over him. I mean, Lukaku is quite clearly worse than Rashford, right?
He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.Does Lukaku have a god-given right to be an undisputed starter? He is in the top 5 or 10 best paid players in the PL, the least he could do is fight for the fecking badge and prove himself.
But he played as much as Rashford and probably more than Martial under Ole? If he was a "man", he would have been fighting but instead decided to moan about moving to Italy since around April, just before out games against Barcelona.He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.
Rashford just offered more to the team, we were noticeably more static with him in the team. Lukaku just doesn't have the mobility we're looking for in our current system. I still believe a team playing to his strengths will get 20 goals a season out of him, especially in Italy.He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.
But he played as much as Rashford and probably more than Martial under Ole? If he was a "man", he would have been fighting but instead decided to moan about moving to Italy since around April, just before out games against Barcelona.
Both of you make good points. I will stick by my delusion that Lukaku was ousted by a player who is not better than him. And yes, he needs to go. Soon. It's best for all involved.Rashford just offered more to the team, we were noticeably more static with him in the team. Lukaku just doesn't have the mobility we're looking for in our current system. I still believe a team playing to his strengths will get 20 goals a season out of him, especially in Italy.
Yeah, not that reliable these days but Sky saying a deal is not close. Also showed some fairly unflattering video of Lukaku running about. Looked like Frank Bruno.Honestly, I would happily keep Lukaku if it means rejecting Inters cnutish offer after they put their noses up when we offered more than enough for Perisic back then.
More importantly, can't keep being terrible at selling players. Feels like we the only club that accepts low-ball offers all the time for our players. Its about damn time we stand firm on at least breaking even on what we invested in Lukaku.
If that means keeping him on, well so be it, never know the guy may just become our subpar-super-sub if he plays his cards right from here on.
it's not about being better or worse, it's just that Lukaku doesn't really fit the profile Ole wants from his #9, simple as that. As soon as Rom realized that, he began flirting with Italy.
He's fighting a losing battle dude. Rashford is a darling of United. Lukaku knows this and he wants to play. I certainly don't blame him for wanting to move on.
It will be hilarious if Conte misses out on Lukaku 2nd time after being almost certain to get him both times
Precisely this.It's a bit more complicated.
Lukaku was on the other side of this when he was the ultimate first choice under Mourinho, no matter how badly he performed, constantly playing the full 90 mins no matter what the score was. It was simple, Lukaku was his striker and he always plays when fit. He'd go on about his insanely strong mentality to make it no matter what obstacle, his "grow a pair" references to players that were struggling for time on the pitch under Mourinho, how it was just an obstacle they needed to get past.
Now when he finds himself in a situation where he's no longer first choice, and rightly so given his performances over the last 12 months, he has feck all of a pre-season where he's barely involved in anything whatsoever, putting further pressure on us to accept a lowball bid from Inter.
He likes to talk big, but that's about it. There was a November interview where he ridiculed the idea that his physique wasn't good enough.
"That's some BS!" "Yeah, that's some BS. I'm one of the strongest players in the league. I never get injured. I'm always there, so what's the problem?" Lukaku added.
A month later he's blaming his form due to the fact that he gained muscles for the World Cup.
I'd rather sell to Juventus even for less money, then to Inter. They fecked us around for Perisic asking 50-60m and made their own bed.It would only be hilarious if Conte missing out on him meant Juventus signing him for the fee we want.
Otherwise we'll be stuck with the player with the "strongest mentality in the game"
Honestly, I would happily keep Lukaku if it means rejecting Inters cnutish offer after they put their noses up when we offered more than enough for Perisic back then.
More importantly, can't keep being terrible at selling players. Feels like we the only club that accepts low-ball offers all the time for our players. Its about damn time we stand firm on at least breaking even on what we invested in Lukaku.
If that means keeping him on, well so be it, never know the guy may just become our subpar-super-sub if he plays his cards right from here on.
Makes sense. Every pass from Ronaldo to Lukaku will be an automatic one two.Surely Juventus can't be interested.
Ronaldo and Lukaku?!
We can't sell him, no club wants Sanchez.I would have thought United would be working a lot harder to get rid of Sanchez.
I'd rather sell to Juventus even for less money, then to Inter. They fecked us around for Perisic asking 50-60m and made their own bed.
Of all the players we could take why would we consider a 32 year old CM? I'd rather only take the money really.Juventus must surely have some players they would exchange which could do us a favour in the short term....
I'd take Matuidi, if it helped to get the Lukaku deal over the line.
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Yeah, there’s certainly something in this. Could also be like someone said that he’s been told to look for a new club, although that seems fairly unlikely, considering the stories coming out about players getting the extra year clause activated through the mailIt's a bit more complicated.
Lukaku was on the other side of this when he was the ultimate first choice under Mourinho, no matter how badly he performed, constantly playing the full 90 mins no matter what the score was. It was simple, Lukaku was his striker and he always plays when fit. He'd go on about his insanely strong mentality to make it no matter what obstacle, his "grow a pair" references to players that were struggling for time on the pitch under Mourinho, how it was just an obstacle they needed to get past.
Now when he finds himself in a situation where he's no longer first choice, and rightly so given his performances over the last 12 months, he has feck all of a pre-season where he's barely involved in anything whatsoever, putting further pressure on us to accept a lowball bid from Inter.
He likes to talk big, but that's about it. There was a November interview where he ridiculed the idea that his physique wasn't good enough.
"That's some BS!" "Yeah, that's some BS. I'm one of the strongest players in the league. I never get injured. I'm always there, so what's the problem?" Lukaku added.
A month later he's blaming his form due to the fact that he gained muscles for the World Cup.
To repeat....Of all the players we could take why would we consider a 32 year old CM? I'd rather only take the money really.
Rashford just offered more to the team, we were noticeably more static with him in the team. Lukaku just doesn't have the mobility we're looking for in our current system. I still believe a team playing to his strengths will get 20 goals a season out of him, especially in Italy.
I'd take Matuidi, if it helped to get the Lukaku deal over the line.
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
To repeat....
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Matuidi is exactly the type of MF that allows us to get the best out of Pogba, even if it's only short term until a more permanent solution can be found.
It might be enough to get us top 4 next season which then gives us Champions League to offer to potential signings next Summer.
I saw that but I don't think it's a smart idea to take on 32 year old in a new league and on probably big wages (in order for him to switch from a CL contender to Europa league).To repeat....
Even though Matuidi is now 32 he looks 10 years younger than Matic and would be great alongside Pogba.
Matuidi is exactly the type of MF that allows us to get the best out of Pogba, even if it's only short term until a more permanent solution can be found.
It might be enough to get us top 4 next season which then gives us Champions League to offer to potential signings next Summer.
Their last bid was £54m. Over £20m short of what we paid.Don't get the "hate" for Inter on this. They did us a favour by asking for too much for Perisic and they're about to do us another favour by taking Lukaku for almost the same amount as we bought him for.
Here we go again, '. .to get the best out of Pogba'. I think I have heard that like a hundred times in the last three years. What has not been tried at United '...to get the best out of Pogba'?.