2019/20 Rivals - Spurs | Bergwijn out for the remainder of the season

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So Dybala anyone?

Seems to be leaked info from the club as a lot of credible scoures are running it.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...uld-break-their-transfer-record-a4197701.html

No its either a story to pressurise Betis in the Lo Celso deal or Eriksen is gone. Im not sure about Dybala in the PL but it sure would be exciting...

A midfield of

Son-----Dybala-----Alli

--Lo Celso--Ndomele--

WOOF.
Zero protection for that ageing defence of yours with that ;)
 

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So Dybala anyone?

Seems to be leaked info from the club as a lot of credible scoures are running it.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...uld-break-their-transfer-record-a4197701.html

No its either a story to pressurise Betis in the Lo Celso deal or Eriksen is gone. Im not sure about Dybala in the PL but it sure would be exciting...

A midfield of

Son-----Dybala-----Alli

--Lo Celso--Ndomele--

WOOF.
I'd honestly rather just buy Lo Celso and keep Eriksen. Helps with the creativity as that lineup has far more goal scorers than actual creators.
 

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I'd honestly rather just buy Lo Celso and keep Eriksen. Helps with the creativity as that lineup has far more goal scorers than actual creators.
There is no way we get Dybala - hopefully we keep Eriksen and sign Lo Celso - that would be absolutely fantastic.
 

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Zero protection for that ageing defence of yours with that ;)
We have 2 young defenders ready to take over from our ageing defenders! Though it will be interesting to see how we line up next season - I think Winks is going to become an increasingly important part of the team (as long as he can stay fit) as a holding midfielder.
 

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Ndombele gets himself about and from what im told on here, Lo Celso gets stuck in.
Aye not sure where this notion comes from that, that midfield would be exposed.

Ndombele is a b2b player who can sit deep and Winks is as well. So it’s literally no different than playing with 2 CM’s or a DM/CM combo. And we all know the rest of your attack all put in a shift anyway. And either of Alli/Lo Celso would also press quite a bit.
 

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Apparently Spurs just signed a 8 years sponsorship deal with AIA worth £320m (£40m a year) according to the telegraph. Says it is of similar value with Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea.
 

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Aye not sure where this notion comes from that, that midfield would be exposed.

Ndombele is a b2b player who can sit deep and Winks is as well. So it’s literally no different than playing with 2 CM’s or a DM/CM combo. And we all know the rest of your attack all put in a shift anyway. And either of Alli/Lo Celso would also press quite a bit.
Cant be much worse than Dier and Sissoko.

All kicking off today for us it seems.

Tottenham announce £320MILLION contract extension with shirt sponsor AIA which will run until 2027

Tottenham have extended their contract with shirt sponsor AIA
It will see the club bring in £40m per season over the next eight years

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ION-contract-extension-shirt-sponsor-AIA.html
 

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Apparently Spurs just signed a 8 years sponsorship deal with AIA worth £320m (£40m a year) according to the telegraph. Says it is of similar value with Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea.
Didn't their existing deal was 35 million per year?

 

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Apparently Spurs just signed a 8 years sponsorship deal with AIA worth £320m (£40m a year) according to the telegraph. Says it is of similar value with Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea.
Its more than any of theirs,

1 MANCHESTER UNITED Chevrolet (US) £53m 7 Year deal (2014-21)
2 CHELSEA Yokohama (Japan) £40m 5 Year deal (2015-20)
3 ARSENAL Fly Emirates (UAE) £30m 5 year deal (2014-19)
4 MAN CITY Etihad Airways (UAE) £30m 10 year deal (2011-21)
5 TOTTENHAM AIA (China) £30m 5 year deal (2014-19)
6 LIVERPOOL Standard Chartered £25m 3 year deal (2013-16)

But they all signed theres a number of years ago, still a very good deal.
 

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Its more than any of theirs,

1 MANCHESTER UNITED Chevrolet (US) £53m 7 Year deal (2014-21)
2 CHELSEA Yokohama (Japan) £40m 5 Year deal (2015-20)
3 ARSENAL Fly Emirates (UAE) £30m 5 year deal (2014-19)
4 MAN CITY Etihad Airways (UAE) £30m 10 year deal (2011-21)
5 TOTTENHAM AIA (China) £30m 5 year deal (2014-19)
6 LIVERPOOL Standard Chartered £25m 3 year deal (2013-16)

But they all signed theres a number of years ago, still a very good deal.
You are quoting expired contracts for Liverpool, Arsenal's.
 

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You've just stolen Glaston's thunder with that one :nono:
We all gotta share the thunder sometimes, it's there to be claimed ;)

Didn't their existing deal was 35 million per year?

Looks like it, I was never the person most interested in or up to date with finances. To me 'AIA' isn't the worst to have on your kit which is just as important to me.
 

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It was just a quick Google chill, Arsenal seems to have increased to £40M, according to the Telegraph. Cant see anything on Liverpool's as of yet.
Well it's good news and shows that we have the same level of pull for sponsorship now as the likes of Liverpool and Arsenal which is great.
 

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It was just a quick Google chill, Arsenal seems to have increased to £40M, according to the Telegraph. Cant see anything on Liverpool's as of yet.
Liverpool's 30 million was some 5-6 years ago, they signed new contract last year which is apparently worth 40 million.
 

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£40m per year for 8 years? Excellent.
 

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Are they gonna solve their RB position? Surely they're not gonna rely on Aurier and Walker-Peters? Foyth "can do a job" but is that ideal?
 

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Are they gonna solve their RB position? Surely they're not gonna rely on Aurier and Walker-Peters? Foyth "can do a job" but is that ideal?
Looks like that’s what we’ll be going into next season with.

Obviously not ideal as it’s based on hoping that either Walker-Peters or Foyth make the position their own.

That said I’m excited to see each of them be given the opportunity for me playing time. I’m a huge fan of Foyth especially although I think his best position is at CB.
 

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Are they gonna solve their RB position? Surely they're not gonna rely on Aurier and Walker-Peters? Foyth "can do a job" but is that ideal?
Nah, it's another Dembele situation. Sell a key option and just don't replace it, we will probably do it next summer once it finally sinks in that it's an issue.

Wing backs are so important in a Poch system so it's genuinely baffling we're gunna be left so short in that position. Foyth is not a RWB and Walker-Peters is still green as grass, we saw that all last season. Aurier is a disaster.
 

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Looks like that’s what we’ll be going into next season with.

Obviously not ideal as it’s based on hoping that either Walker-Peters or Foyth make the position their own.

That said I’m excited to see each of them be given the opportunity for me playing time. I’m a huge fan of Foyth especially although I think his best position is at CB.
Foyth has fantastic potential to be a world class ball playing defender in the future if he works on certain aspects of his game/matures quite a lot, but he simply doesn't have the delivery/pace to be a modern wing back. Not unless he changes as a player a lot, otherwise we're gunna be stuck with a right back who is scared of going past the half way line, which is what happened when we used him there last season.

It's a weird situation to me. We haven't sorted out either of our fullback issues, maybe we bring Sessegnon in but again I really don't think that solves our situation. He needs a lot of work.
 

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Nah, it's another Dembele situation. Sell a key option and just don't replace it, we will probably do it next summer once it finally sinks in that it's an issue.

Wing backs are so important in a Poch system so it's genuinely baffling we're gunna be left so short in that position. Foyth is not a RWB and Walker-Peters is still green as grass, we saw that all last season. Aurier is a disaster.
A few weeks ago you said "Trippier … should be easy enough to [offload to] mid-table level teams". Now you're comparing him to Dembele in the sense of being a "key option".

Also, not every FB has to be wingback, which means that Foyth doesn't have to try and play as wingback.
 

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A few weeks ago you said "Trippier … should be easy enough to [offload to] mid-table level teams". Now you're comparing him to Dembele in the sense of being a "key option".

Also, not every FB has to be wingback, which means that Foyth doesn't have to try and play as wingback.
Trippier wasn't good, but he was a first choice right back. Selling him and hedging your bets is a stupid thing to do, you don't sell players in the squad and then not replace them. Dembele was a similar case in that sense and we paid for it.

In a Pochettino system, yes they do. Unless we're going to radically change that, but since we're going for Sessegnon on the other side I highly doubt it. Any top fullback or wingback in today's game needs to have some elite attacking attributes, look at the other top sides around Europe. How many converted centre backs do you see there?

Anyway we've been through this already .. you think it's fine, I do not. If Foyth ends up being a quality right back I'll humbly admit I was wrong.
 

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Who can fecking blame him?

One player in whilst 2 are out the door. No replacement for one of those who was a first team regular in an already weak spot of the team.

The club better deliver this man at least 2 more signings or quite frankly I don't blame him if he gives them the finger. At which point we will be utterly fecked.
 

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Who can fecking blame him?

One player in whilst 2 are out the door. No replacement for one of those who was a first team regular in an already weak spot of the team.

The club better deliver this man at least 2 more signings or quite frankly I don't blame him if he gives them the finger. At which point we will be utterly fecked.
I feel for him, still time I guess. The price is there for Lo Celso. I imagine you’ll still get Sess, just not sure what it all means for Eriksen.
 

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I feel for him, still time I guess. The price is there for Lo Celso. I imagine you’ll still get Sess, just not sure what it all means for Eriksen.
Problem with Sessegnon is that it's a very young, raw player who didn't exactly flourish last season in the league. We need a ready made fullback to come in and improve us but instead we've somehow allowed our fullback situation to deteriorate this summer rather than fixing it.

I guess we'll end up keeping Eriksen, signing nobody else and then some will hail it a win. And those people can feck right off.
 

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I thought this summer was going to be different for Spurs? At least that's what I kept reading
 

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I thought this summer was going to be different for Spurs? At least that's what I kept reading
It was meant to be, and it started off as very promising with Ndombele.

With the money from reaching the CL final and the money for qualifying, I honestly believed Levy would try and make a statement and appease the fans, and it seemed that way early on.

A week to go of course but I can't see the floodgates suddenly opening, reminds me very much of last summer. Same old disappointing shit where the board are happy with whatever can allow us to scrape top four.
 

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You can see now why the argument of players leaving for perceived lesser sides for the ambition they show holds some weight.
 

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Problem with Sessegnon is that it's a very young, raw player who didn't exactly flourish last season in the league. We need a ready made fullback to come in and improve us but instead we've somehow allowed our fullback situation to deteriorate this summer rather than fixing it.

I guess we'll end up keeping Eriksen, signing nobody else and then some will hail it a win. And those people can feck right off.
Yeah. Either full back needs improving, I personally don’t rate Walker-Peters. I liked Rose towards the end of the season, I think he can still do a job.

On the plus side Parrott looks like a player, maybe he can rotate a bit with Alli and Alli can go a bit deeper.
 

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Anyway, feck it. We might still bring in Lo Celso/Sessegnon which would make it an ok window.

But I honestly can't believe that Trippier has been allowed to leave without a replacement being lined up. That's pure negligence.
 

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That tweet sounds quite agenda driven. He has said numerous times he is happy to work with the squad. We have also broken our transfer record this summer.

The part about not being happy, he has spoken about how the transfers work many times and I think it's more likely that he isn't happy about the question than suddenly not being happy with the transfer situation.

edit: I'm not saying everything is great and he wouldn't want any more signings, but I don't think he is particularly unhappy with the squad or the way the transfers work at the club.