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There are already rumors of Higuain heading to Roma. If Juve wanted to go for Dzeko they could easily propose a swap or just pay the 20m or so they seem to want for him. There are better players than Lukaku (Icardi, Cavani) they could try for or decent short term options like Dzeko while still retaining Dybala as an option or finding a buyer for him.
Okay. Just to make this plan and simple. They don’t want Dybala :lol:.

It’s like explaining to me how we could sell Lingard to keep Sanchez instead.
 

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What’s your point we didn’t force the option to sign him. So football clubs will never make a mis judgement? If that’s the case Arsenal would have never got Henry. Just smile and hope it works out for us. I don’t get the point of being so skeptical.
I'm delighted we're getting Dybala! I just think it's not going to happen because it just still seems so ridiculously stupid of Juve.
 

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It really isn't. 275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill. I'm sure it's comfortably more than the likes of mane, salah, kane etc.
Kane doesnt even play for a big club. How much do you think he'll ask if we were to sign him?
 

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He'd be our second superstar, third if you include DDG, shouldnt be a problem with Ed and Judge. He'll make a ton in shirt sales.
Makes me wonder whether Ole really wants him and this isn't just another "marquee signing" for Ed and his commercial/marketing concerns.
 

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I don’t think his wages are that big of a demand

270k for a £80m rated player seems about right to me. Lukaku would be due a renewal I the next year or so anyway and would demand something similar.
 

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It really isn't. 275k is a shit ton of money to add to your wage bill. I'm sure it's comfortably more than the likes of mane, salah, kane etc.
It’s not adding £275k, as Lukaku is currently on £200k. So it is adding £75k. (£3.9m per year).

United aren’t paying Mane, Salah and Kane though. Plus those players have highly incentivised Contracts.

United can afford to pay higher wages than other domestic rivals, that’s just a fact.

The revenue to wage percentage remains at circa 50%, which is a very healthy figure and is better than the revenue/wage percentage of most clubs in the league.

When you earn more money and have much bigger sponsorship deals, you can afford to pay higher wages.
 

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Makes me wonder whether Ole really wants him and this isn't just another "marquee signing" for Ed and his commercial/marketing concerns.
I just don't think it's a signing we ever considered but one that's too good to be turned down if it's being offered on a plate to us. We're getting to bring in a good player and get rid off a striker we anyway don't want.
 

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Exactly. If he's going to come under duress, there's no point in him signing for United.

If I were a player, I would put more effort playing for AC Milan than I would for Real Salt Lake. I'm not a fan of either, but I respect the former more because I grew up with them as a famous institution.

If reports are true that Dybala doesn't want to come to England and only fancies the big Spanish clubs, then fair dues. I can see why his upbringing would instill that sporting perspective, so best of luck to him over there. Those teams are the ones he respects as famous institutions instead.

United don't need somebody who sees us as a payday rather than a cause to be proud of.
Wouldnt believe any of those "reports" from shite sources who make shit up based on nothing just because Di Marzio said a conversation will happen. He might see Barca and Madrid as the pinnacle, but tbf, the vast majority of footballers do. Doesn't mean they'll ever play for them, and sure as hell doesn't mean that Dybala doesn't want the prem. Dybala has history that shows he clearly does value United and respects the club as a massive club. Let's not forget this post before we played them...
 

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I'm delighted we're getting Dybala! I just think it's not going to happen because it just still seems so ridiculously stupid of Juve.
Dzeko is 33, Cavani is 32, and Icardi is apparently a playboy type footballer. If they get Lukaku at 26 and he gets them 20-30 goals a season which i can see him getting, it really won't be stupid of them for a long term plan. I think its more riskier for us if Dybala works out here than if Lukaku works out there.
 

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Dzeko is 33, Cavani is 32, and Icardi is apparently a playboy type footballer. If they get Lukaku at 26 and he gets them 20-30 goals a season which i can see him getting, it really won't be stupid of them for a long term plan. I think its more riskier for us if Dybala works out here than if Lukaku works out there.
Everything about Juve right now screams short term success to win the CL while Ronaldo is there anyway. They'd not be selling off the likes of Dybala and Kean if was anything else. Hence, them signing low risk players like Dzeko and Cavani makes more sense to me than Lukaku (untested in Serie A) and not exactly the greatest partner/foil for Ronaldo or a good match for Sarri ball.
 

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People on here are so fecking self conscious and lacking in any confidence ffs, coming up with shite like pretending they dont want a big player just because that player might be like Di Maria or Sanchez. Its fecking Man United, we'll always be a massive club, and we'll always have that lure for others. Some players might not turn out well, but that will always happen. Doesn't mean you completely give up on those types of signings if you have the chance to make them, and sure as feck doesnt mean that the player will disrespect the club or give up on it quickly.
 

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Everything about Juve right now screams short term success to win the CL while Ronaldo is there anyway. They'd not be selling off the likes of Dybala and Kean if was anything else. Hence, them signing low risk players like Dzeko and Cavani makes more sense to me than Lukaku (untested in Serie A) and not exactly the greatest partner/foil for Ronaldo or a good match for Sarri ball.
I see your point, Lukaku and Sarri ball don't work. I'm not sure whether he'd work good with Ronaldo, they may end up working great but we'll see. However Juve just signed De Ligt, young and ambitious. That ain't short term so they want a balance of young and old. Lukaku may fit that.

I maybe clutching on reasons why theyd want Lukaku because even i don't fully understand why :lol:
 

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People on here are so fecking self conscious and lacking in any confidence ffs, coming up with shite like pretending they dont want a big player just because that player might be like Di Maria or Sanchez. Its fecking Man United, we'll always be a massive club, and we'll always have that lure for others. Some players might not turn out well, but that will always happen. Doesn't mean you completely give up on those types of signings if you have the chance to make them, and sure as feck doesnt mean that the player will disrespect the club or give up on it quickly.
So many on here have small club mentalities. Annoys me they even support Man Utd.
 

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I see your point, Lukaku and Sarri ball don't work. I'm not sure whether he'd work good with Ronaldo, they may end up working great but we'll see. However Juve just signed De Ligt, young and ambitious. That ain't short term so they want a balance of young and old. Lukaku may fit that.

I maybe clutching on reasons why theyd want Lukaku because even i don't fully understand why :lol:
I would understand them signing Lukaku if atleast it made some amazing footballing sense for them and he fit in like a glove with the general Sarri philosophy or was just a guaranteed success but, no, I just do not get it :lol:
 

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Exactly. If he's going to be sold under duress, there's no point in him signing for United.

If I were a player, I would put more effort playing for AC Milan than I would for Real Salt Lake. I'm not a fan of either, but I respect the former more because I grew up watching them as a famous institution.

If reports are true that Dybala doesn't want to come to England and only fancies the big Spanish clubs, then fair dues. I can see why his upbringing would instill that sporting perspective, so best of luck to him over there. Those teams are the ones he respects as famous institutions. It is what it is. Doesn't make him a bad person, but it does make him a bad fit.

United don't need somebody who sees us as a payday rather than a cause to be proud of.
you’re being too emotional about it. His preference is to stay at juve. Why wouldn’t he? Beckham preferred to stay with us, we still sold him. Just because he would prefer to stay with his current team doesn’t mean he won’t embrace United should he realise he doesn’t fit into juve’s plans. He’s a professional like everyone else. It’s ridiculous football fan sentimentality that thinks our players are all born and bred United fans. They are pros and it’s their careers. We are the fans.
 

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Everything about Juve right now screams short term success to win the CL while Ronaldo is there anyway. They'd not be selling off the likes of Dybala and Kean if was anything else. Hence, them signing low risk players like Dzeko and Cavani makes more sense to me than Lukaku (untested in Serie A) and not exactly the greatest partner/foil for Ronaldo or a good match for Sarri ball.
If they wanted to win the CL asap do you think hiring sarri made sense? cuz i dont :lol:
 

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Was Higuaín worth the £80m Juventus paid for him after we bought Pogba?

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t and Juve overpaid just to feck over Napoli (voluntarily?).
 

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Makes me wonder whether Ole really wants him and this isn't just another "marquee signing" for Ed and his commercial/marketing concerns.
Oh, Ole is a fan. He was asked about United's scouting network in an interview on a Norwegian podcast after he got the job, and he said «you dont need anyone to tell you to target a Messi or Dybala, but the scouts are used for less known targets."
 

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I love all these reports that suggest that we’re all sitting here waiting for Dybala to say yes because the pain in his arm that’s being twisted is too great.

Who actually knows what he’s thinking? He might be pissing his pants with excitement to get out of Juve to play for United with his pal Pogba but let’s not forget that the general narrative for United is less than favourable these days, it’ll never be just because he wanted too because he views the club as a great place to ply his trade, there’ll always be a negative spin on it.
 

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you’re being too emotional about it. His preference is to stay at juve. Why wouldn’t he? Beckham preferred to stay with us, we still sold him. Just because he would prefer to stay with his current team doesn’t mean he won’t embrace United should he realise he doesn’t fit into juve’s plans. He’s a professional like everyone else. It’s ridiculous football fan sentimentality that thinks our players are all born and bred United fans. They are pros and it’s their careers. We are the fans.
The idea that a player would join a club, against his will, then spend the next seven years deliberately ruining his career in a huff.
 

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you’re being too emotional about it. His preference is to stay at juve. Why wouldn’t he? Beckham preferred to stay with us, we still sold him. Just because he would prefer to stay with his current team doesn’t mean he won’t embrace United should he realise he doesn’t fit into juve’s plans. He’s a professional like everyone else. It’s ridiculous football fan sentimentality that thinks our players are all born and bred United fans. They are pros and it’s their careers. We are the fans.
Di Maria is a recent example of why.

If you've ever managed a team, you'll know that personality is a big part of the equation.
 

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Was Higuaín worth the £80m Juventus paid for him after we bought Pogba?

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t and Juve overpaid just to feck over Napoli (voluntarily?).
at the time. Absoluetly not. Old high wages and a choke artist in Cup competitions. They were already winning the league. Was weird .
 

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If they wanted to win the CL asap do you think hiring sarri made sense? cuz i dont :lol:
Did anyone think Di Matteo would win the Champions League? It’s not always about the manager. It’s also about players and more so about luck.
 

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Did anyone Di Matteo would win the Champions League? It’s not always about the manager. It’s also about players and more so about luck.
yeh but if they are trying to go all out and win the CL why do they feel they will stand a better chance with Sarri over Allegri. It doesnt make much sense to me. Yes you can fluke a CL win like RDM did but if thats the case why change the manager. May aswell try and fluke it with allegri.
 

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Robinho is another example of one.
It's not so much he's being forced out of the club as much as he doesnt have a key role there anymore so collectively there's no point in keeping a player that valuable when you arent getting his value out of him. Dybala himself won't want to stay if he isn't valued and if he doesn't have a more important role, so is it really all that bad? A player moving because he wants to be a key player and won't be that in the current set up?
 
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