It's like quoting the Daily Express and The Daily Star.
Paulo Dybala
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You just made this up (or are quoting made up rumors from fake sources). His agent wouldn't have instantly flown to England to talk about a potential deal if he wasnt okay with it. Sure, his ideal scenario would probably be to stay at Juve and be a key player. Things dont always pan out like that. See Beckham with United. His career went just fine after leaving United didnt it? Dybala is 25 years old and has loads to prove still. He isnt someone who's achieved it all and is ready to hang up his boots with one last pay day, if he leaves Juve, it's to go somewhere he'll have a bigger role in the team. That mentality is never bad. I'd much sooner avoid a player who is content to stay at a club on the bench regardless of the role they offer. Its just a different scenario to the players you mentioned.
We really can't pass up the opportunity though. Even if he plays here for couple of seasons with 100% commitment and get us back to top, he can leave.
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Don't expect everyone to be so clued in on sources as long as they can parade as a top red. You have the same poster defending Lingard to be United quality, I mean what's the point of engaging in any discussion with the said poster. Thought process don't align, simples.
I think we may very well end up with another Di Maria case, Dybala didnt had a great season last year with Juve, he is being pushed out of Juve instead of wanting to come here. For all his career he hasnt been constant he is more of a "great moments" kind of player, and without the right motivation I think this can end really bad for us.
But on the other hand on a good day he is a world class player, if somehow we manage to get the best out of him we would have a potential ballon d'Or in our team.
But on the other hand on a good day he is a world class player, if somehow we manage to get the best out of him we would have a potential ballon d'Or in our team.
That's fair. If he doesnt want to come, then I doubt he will come anyway. I don't think that's the case with Dybala for multiple reasons though. We aren't his #1 choice, but we stopped being the #1 choice for players the second Sir Alex retired. His top choice would probably be to stay at Juve and be a key player, but he doesnt have that role anymore. His dream is probably Barca/Madrid like all latino players, but again, not an option. Just because we aren't his dream club, it doesn't mean that we arent a very decent option for him or that he doesn't want to come here. Plenty suggests otherwise (like his agent being here right away to discuss the deal).
Everything that was reported Tuesday is probably where we are at with this transfer, yesterday news outlets were just wanting more copy around the story so a bunch of horseshit is being written about it now. This will be done by the weekend imo.
Its more comparable to Eto'o. He didnt want to leave but new coach wanted him out and then swapped him with Zlatan. Worked out superbly for Inter.
Very well said.
I’m confident there is nothing to see in Dybala to United. I can’t envisage him playing either in our shirt or our league. At a push I could see him at City but certainly not us in our current incarnation. I would love him in the squad but currently he is a luxury and we should be focusing elsewhere CB/MF/pure RW
For this to happen he would have to be pushed into a corner with no options and a player of his quality would have options at least should he have to move.
No more Di Marias Thanks.
For this to happen he would have to be pushed into a corner with no options and a player of his quality would have options at least should he have to move.
No more Di Marias Thanks.
He doesn’t have any other option if Juve has told him he isn’t in their plans. Barca and Madrid don’t need him. No one else in Italy can afford nor does he want to move to anyone else. PSG said nothing doing till they sell Neymar which isn’t gonna happen. So we are his only option out.
Not sure if this is posted.
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/...lysis_uncovering_la_joya_your_complete_guide/
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/...lysis_uncovering_la_joya_your_complete_guide/
Agent could still travel and see what we are offering. Or may be Inter wasn't ready with a decision at that point of time. Too many combinations yet to play.
I still think we are being played by the Italian teams here. Not that we shouldn't try but be ready for a setback any point of time. Unfortunately Inter with Conte and CL is much better for him now.
Imagine not wanting Dybala in your team.
We don’t have anything to lose actually. Even if he backs out tmrw, we keep Lukaku and move on. Our aim was to try to get him and we have done that. We have shown interest. If he rejects us after this it’s fine. We either keep Lukaku or sell him to Inter and find a new striker.
Because he's reportedly a makeweight in the Lukaku deal, there's seemingly no alternative club for him to join.
The worry is that he will come here purely because he's stuck between a rock and a hard place: a club that don't want him versus club he doesn't want to go to.
Between those two choices, if he takes the easy option and joins United, there's a strong risk he'll show the same level of commitment as others in the past who have been stuck between the same two choices (Robinho/di Maria being the closest to home).
Dybala has nothing to lose by joining United on a big contract. United could potentially lose out big. That's where we have to be careful.
The concern is not so much about United being #4 on his shortlist behind Juve, Barca, and Madrid. It's about United not being on the list at all, but being used as a port in a storm for him to wait it out until #5 on the list give him an offer.
Maybe he'll be fully commited if he comes to United. But if we don't excite him at all prior to discussions, the likelihood is that he won't be. That's the lesson to take from others who have been initially dismissive of the clubs they eventually had no choice but to sign for.
Still cautious about getting too excited about this yet, still can't get my head around Dybala agreeing to it.
Yep. It would be professionally negligent for the agent not to travel to that meeting.
That doesn't make sense actually. The Juventus DOF also travelled to England according to the same sources so it doesn't seem to be just a formal meeting due to professional courtesy.
And Inter are going to offer what exactly ? Icardi ? If Lukaku is what is interesting Juventus then you couldn't really find a more diametrically opposed pair of forwards. There is nothing in those Inter rumours. If they can't stump up for Lukaku then they definitely have nothing to interest Juventus with for Dybala.
I can totally see him going to Inter instead honestly, right now the move makes a lot more sense. Doesn't have to leave Italy, and he gets CL football. Won't get as much money though, obviously. That's where I feel he'll end up if the links are genuine. God knows what that would do to the Lukaku deal though, probably means we'd end up being stuck with him?
Can I have it as my tagline please @admins?An agent is there to represent his client. It behooves him to be involved in discussions, even if his client has no intention of being swayed by the result.
That discussion can happen by other means, a face to face is not required if there is no concrete interest. Still doesn't explain Juve's DOF travelling as well.
Why is it such a mentality here? Why many people think that our club is worse, that oother options are better, and that sort of thing? It’s not right! We need to have ambition - not only on the field, but in thoughts and attitude too. We are not Huddersfield, we are Manchester United.
Of course Dybala will choose United if an alternative is inter, there are no doubts.
Of course Dybala will choose United if an alternative is inter, there are no doubts.
The Juve DOF is there to discuss Lukaku. The agent is there to make sure he gathers as much information as possible for his client, because some of the Lukaku discussions might be relevant.
Well assuming this is true:
He won’t be commanding a big wage will he? We just pick up his current contract wage. After all we are his only option.
If he really wants to play he takes a salary drop so other clubs can afford him.
He sits tight ala golfboy at Madrid
But we should not be signing players on big long juicy contracts unless they really want to be here.
Btw, I like him. I think he is a great little player. He would in my mind be an ideal Mata/Lingard upgrade in the squad. The question is motivation. Is he motivated to be here 3-5 years, give his all for the cause?
Oh yeah, precisely this. It would be pure negligence on our side not to try this option when Juve is presenting an opportunity like this.
He is a footballer. I assume he loves to play football. If he does, why on Earth shouldn’t he be motivated to play well in a big club, where he will be one of the key players?
Juve were interested in Icardi. Still think he is their first choice and we are being used here.
Inter don't need to pump up for Dybala as this is a straight forward swap.
Higuain > Roma
Dzeko > Inter
Icardi > Juve
Dybala > Inter
And Italian clubs love these kind of deals.
Well we had better play it safe and keep him away from young Lingard and the fashionistas.....
I come from a Latin background and some of the differences really make a difference.
Why would they go to such lengths if a deal inside of Italy is more likely? Just to mess with us? There are also reports of us including Darmian in the deal because Juventus are looking to sell Cancelo to make profit on him.
Sterling, KdB, Aguero are all on higher wages than (or around) 300K per week.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ly-paid-roberto-mancini175m-offshore-account/
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46157225
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-signs-new-six-year-manchester-city-contract/
Surely he would be contacting his buddy Pogba and once Pogba tells him that he is heading off to sunnier climes then I would imagine he would not be so keen.
So United have supposedly offered him 150k and he wants 220k...what is wrong with some players, one good season and he probably doubles that...
Has put me off him a bit if its true and it being the stumbling block to the entire move...
Although we do have Rashford and Martial on 250k, so doesn't help our cause, not to mention Sanchez
Has put me off him a bit if its true and it being the stumbling block to the entire move...
Although we do have Rashford and Martial on 250k, so doesn't help our cause, not to mention Sanchez
Juve want nothing to do with Wanda.
Lmaoooo at these shit tier people being quoted as if their word holds any merit.
Either Sarri’s right hand man is lying or these shit tier “reporters” somehow have the inside scoop that Dybala doesn’t want to join United.
...how can Dybala not fancy United according to them if he’s requesting 30% increase in salary on the other hand from us?
Common sense says BS. That’s as clearcut of a conflicting report as you’ll ever see. And I’ll take the side of Sarri’s guy 10/10 over those crap “journalists” spewing shit out of their mouth just to generate clicks.
Either Sarri’s right hand man is lying or these shit tier “reporters” somehow have the inside scoop that Dybala doesn’t want to join United.
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...how can Dybala not fancy United according to them if he’s requesting 30% increase in salary on the other hand from us?
Common sense says BS. That’s as clearcut of a conflicting report as you’ll ever see. And I’ll take the side of Sarri’s guy 10/10 over those crap “journalists” spewing shit out of their mouth just to generate clicks.
When has anyone in their real life ever switched jobs for the same money? We all take pay rises as an incentive to move. This is real life. It’s our lives x100 for a footballer.
Maybe we’re getting their DOF part of the deal as well
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