cyberman
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I'd love any advice on who to look out for? Or if its even a strong squad?
Follow you on Twitter - quick question sorry if it’s off topic.Forson probably the highest rated, Murray & Mather been at England camp so fairly highly rated. Apart from them I've liked the look of Fredrickson, Mainoo, Kavanagh, Norkett & Popov when I've seen them. I've heard Oyedele is good but haven't seen much of him.
No I'm not involved at all. Yeah I go to as many games as I can get to & do some scouting for an agencyFollow you on Twitter - quick question sorry if it’s off topic.
How do you know so much about the younger age groups? Do you attend under age games, or are you involved at all?
11,12,7 & 6 in that order, 9's a big physical lad and will probably do well, but he's not a great footballer.I'd love any advice on who to look out for? Or if its even a strong squad?
What do you think of the squad at the milk cup in general compared to previous ones?No I'm not involved at all. Yeah I go to as many games as I can get to & do some scouting for an agency
You only have to take this into account in relation to physicality, watching the matches there didn't seem to be much in it between the teams they played, therefore it's irrelevant. We have some good players in that age group, what we don't have is any structure in terms of formation/patterns of play, it's bizarrely not taught in our academy at this age. Watch the matches it's plain to see, everyone running around like headless chickens, not sticking to positions, hoofing long balls, we are good at making good players look bad.You have to take into account that United don't have many U16 born in 2004.
Shoretire and Kilner (injured) didn't travel so only Lawton, Nkwonto & Morson are U16, the rest of the squad are U15.
Surely this can’t be true? We practised defensive structure and offensive patterns from we were about 14 years old. I’d assume ManUtd youth teams do this as well?You only have to take this into account in relation to physicality, watching the matches there didn't seem to be much in it between the teams they played, therefore it's irrelevant. We have some good players in that age group, what we don't have is any structure in terms of formation/patterns of play, it's bizarrely not taught in our academy at this age. Watch the matches it's plain to see, everyone running around like headless chickens, not sticking to positions, hoofing long balls, we are good at making good players look bad.
Yeah I can't see that being true. Surely fecking not.Surely this can’t be true? We practised defensive structure and offensive patterns from we were about 14 years old. I’d assume ManUtd youth teams do this as well?
Would be gross mismanagement imo.Yeah I can't see that being true. Surely fecking not.
Nope, they may touch on the odd thing, but it's not coached in any detail.Surely this can’t be true? We practised defensive structure and offensive patterns from we were about 14 years old. I’d assume ManUtd youth teams do this as well?
Sorry, I just have to ask, how do you know this for sure? Seems really strange.Nope, they may touch on the odd thing, but it's not coached in any detail.
I was only at the first 2 games but thought there were some very good players on show for United but some obvious weaknesses in the squad mainly in terms of defending basic long balls & high balls into the box & in terms of making chances for the striker. We had a tendency to work the ball from back to front very well but then when we got around the box players were looking to take on 25 yard shots rather than looking for options. Strangely enough I'd say it's actually a better set of players than the last 2 year's squads even though both did better than this year.What do you think of the squad at the milk cup in general compared to previous ones?
If you want your defenders to be good on the ball and feel confident stepping out into midfield or covering out wide or whatever then not necessarily...and in terms of defending set pieces etc well there's no guarantees a big powerful player at youth level will remain so as an adult, bit of trial and error for any player is important. You forget also that they've likely had coaching before they join United, get coached by parents, brothers etc, and also even at school they have PE lessons, no point labouring over the tactics all day and making it boring. Obviously if they're getting smashed every game then it's no fun either so they'll get a few tips and tricks, but if they're good and have a head on them you're really better off practising specific skills, shots, passes, tackles etc and teaching detailed tactical play later.@jb8521 that makes a lot of sense for attacking players (we want them to be able to pull something out on the fly) but surely working defensive patterns and stuff which as you say, can make you more robotic, is a good thing in a defender?
A situation arises, and they know exactly where they should be positioned etc.
They do work on stuff it's not as if they just put them on the pitch & hope but it's not the constant barrage of information & second by second instructions being shouted at them that you hear from some other coaches it's more about winning their personal battles & learning from mistakes@jb8521 that makes a lot of sense for attacking players (we want them to be able to pull something out on the fly) but surely working defensive patterns and stuff which as you say, can make you more robotic, is a good thing in a defender?
A situation arises, and they know exactly where they should be positioned etc.
Ah yeah that makes more sense, I was thinking we don't work on defensive shape and covering defenders at all and just let em play through it.They do work on stuff it's not as if they just put them on the pitch & hope but it's not the constant barrage of information & second by second instructions being shouted at them that you hear from some other coaches it's more about winning their personal battles & learning from mistakes
We don’tAh yeah that makes more sense, I was thinking we don't work on defensive shape and covering defenders at all and just let em play through it.
Well now I'm getting conflicting reports.We don’t
Do it.I actually played in the milk cup twice and have the programme's from them still. We are talking very early 90's here mind. I don't think I'm allowed to put pics on? Mods can let me know maybe . Will have pull them out the loft like first ! Don't know if anyone would be interested?