simplyared
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Rooney hands down!
Hurts to think about it doesn't? We would have walked the league every year with Ronaldo and probably have won a couple more CLs's.I love and hate looking back at that time, love how good we were and hate how we compare now
Wish Ronaldo hadn't been dreaming of Madrid
Aye, for sure - given our replacements were essentially Owen and Valencia (with Berbatov ousting Tevez) we had a massive drop in quality. Berbatov was a great player, but Tevez suited our style of play much better imo - I remember Ferguson saying one of the main reasons we went for Berbatov in 2008 was that he viewed us resting on ours laurels in terms of transfers in 1999 as a mistake after winning the Champions League. Berbatov had fantastic technique (that assist against West Ham was godly), but he just didn't suit our fast style of play.Hurts to think about it doesn't? We would have walked the league every year with Ronaldo and probably have won a couple more CLs's.
How times change!I think Rio shades it due to his leadership, consistency and obviously loyalty.
I miss that so much. Saw a great Evra interview the other day where he answers Google questions about him and he talked a lot about the mentality they had as a team. He said when RvP joined he told him "welcome to a man club" and they both kind of laughed, then a while later RvP went to Evra and said "I get it now, you were right". The sheer drive and will to win was unreal back thenYeah, you can see it with Evra too when he talks seriously about his time at United. Rio, Evra and Vida were the bedrock of our defence in United's most successful ever period. They were all completely on point psychologically, all totally driven and fearless. It was all about standards too, failure was not accepted.
I can’t recall Rio ever trying to move to a rival club whereas Rooney flirted with the idea of moving to Chelsea.How times change!
Are you talking about his attachment to United even after his retirement?
Of all the ways to distinguish between them that seems like a curious one! You don't remember 2005 then?I can’t recall Rio ever trying to move to a rival club whereas Rooney flirted with the idea of moving to Chelsea.
Kenyon? Chelsea?I can’t recall Rio ever trying to move to a rival club whereas Rooney flirted with the idea of moving to Chelsea.
I mean I've gone with Rio as my pick but that's an odd one. Don't you remember the Rio/Kenyon restaurant thing?I can’t recall Rio ever trying to move to a rival club whereas Rooney flirted with the idea of moving to Chelsea.
Correct me if I am wrong but this means nothing, Scholes never won any of them things and he is arguably United’s 2nd best ever CM.It's easier to be good in a great team, it's harder to turn that team that RVP transformed into title winners. It's why SAF signed him. One last hoorah.
Rooney wasn't often Uniteds best player over a season. He only won that award twice. He only won PFA award once. I think the other stuff, clouds your judgement. The running around stuff. That doesn't translate to being the best cf in the world. His stats never backed that up either, other than his one outstanding season. He was a great united player and a great signing. But he wasn't in Henry's class or Ronaldos.
Great post I agree. Rooney could put in a decent shift in any outfield position. He apparently wasn’t bad between the sticks either.Very interesting observation. A defence of Vidic and Stam would have been better than the Vidic Rio partnership. I think Rio is a top class defender but also a bit over inflated by The British Press. Rooney was overshadowed by Ronaldo and Rooney very unselfishly played second fiddle to Ronaldo. Rooney at his peak can do anything Ronaldo did and I would say was a more complete player.
Scholes is my favourite ever player. Can you tell me when he was Uniteds player of the season ?Correct me if I am wrong but this means nothing, Scholes never won any of them things and he is arguably United’s 2nd best ever CM.