love it!Solskjær press conference vs Chelsea (H)
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love it!I hear so many people moaning about him being "happy with the squad" like it's some kind of cop out. Did you ever think that maybe he is happy with the squad?
It's amazing how many people here wanted us to sign Sancho. Let's look at a little back story there. Sancho was a City player but wasn't given the oppertunity to show how good he is, so he was sold to BVB and took the German League by storm. Now he's "worth" 100m plus and most of you would welcome him with open arms regardless of the price. Did you ever stop to think for one second that perhaps we already have a "Sancho" or two in our squad?
Amazing how so many of you want us to add attacking players, yet all that those attacking players will do is stunt the development of Greenwood, Gomes and Chong. These kids (first 2 especially) are the future of our club, but only if they get playing time now.
I am more than happy with the squad that we have. I would have liked to see players like Rojo and Darmien sold (and there's still time), and I would have liked to see one more midfield signing, but other than that, I think we are going to have a really good season. Have some faith lads, and for fecks sakes, enough with the moaning already...
It's amazing how many people here wanted us to sign Sancho. Let's look at a little back story there. Sancho was a City player but wasn't given the oppertunity to show how good he is, so he was sold to BVB and took the German League by storm. Now he's "worth" 100m plus and most of you would welcome him with open arms regardless of the price. Did you ever stop to think for one second that perhaps we already have a "Sancho" or two in our squad?
Amazing how so many of you want us to add attacking players, yet all that those attacking players will do is stunt the development of Greenwood, Gomes and Chong. These kids (first 2 especially) are the future of our club, but only if they get playing time now.
I am more than happy with the squad that we have. I would have liked to see players like Rojo and Darmien sold (and there's still time), and I would have liked to see one more midfield signing, but other than that, I think we are going to have a really good season. Have some faith lads, and for fecks sakes, enough with the moaning already...
Thanks for your insightful thoughts. Have a nice night wherever you’re located.
It’s ironic but the insults actually come from the people that are pro Ole. From wanting people who think Ole is crap banned, to calling people that think he’s not a good manager plastic blah Di blah.
Only logical defence and reason for hope from people regarding Ole are all based on what SAF did. Here’s the truth, the majority of our academy players do not become world class, the majority don’t even become first team regulars. At best a handful become good squad players and the rest have good careers at other lower level clubs. That’s the part of history that is most likely to repeat itself.
Also it’s frustrating after the team went to crap. Those that wanted Ole to be made permanent manager based on 10 games said “it’s too soon to judge him, give him a window (the irony) ”now after the window our squad is weaker they are changing the goalpost to “its all the board Ole deserves no judgment this year”
Only logical defence and reason for hope from people regarding Ole are all based on what SAF did. Here’s the truth, the majority of our academy players do not become world class, the majority don’t even become first team regulars. At best a handful become good squad players and the rest have good careers at other lower level clubs. That’s the part of history that is most likely to repeat itself.
Also it’s frustrating after the team went to crap. Those that wanted Ole to be made permanent manager based on 10 games said “it’s too soon to judge him, give him a window (the irony) ”now after the window our squad is weaker they are changing the goalpost to “its all the board Ole deserves no judgment this year”
You called Ole, a club legend, crap, yet say the insults come from the pro Ole side, ironic.
Manager's usually have a say in whether or not a player should be retained, yes. However, clubs can and will extend players without the managers input, because players are assets, and letting assets go for free is bad business.
Young and Jones were renewed while Ole was caretaker. Did he have a say? I'm sure they asked him for advice, but at the end of the day, we don't know what that advice was, so it seems unfair to use it as a stick to beat him with. With Jones, it might have been as simple as Woodward/the board not wanting to let an asset go for free (if he plays semi-regularly and manages to stay injury-free, we could probably manage to convince someone to pay £30+m for him). Mata is definitely on Ole, and I don't know why he thought that was a good idea.
Herrera says Ole tried to get him to stay, but that by the time the club made him an offer, he had already made up his mind.
Its not that hard to understand if you calm your hate boner. Just because we couldn't get the players we wanted doesn't mean we should just panic and buy available players who's ambition is elsewhere.
fecking hell every PC thread is a shitfest, with people maoning about what he should have said, and then body language experts and experts who break sentence into pieces. Worst part is most of these guys don't even watch PC, they just read quotes without context and the question that was asked. They assume Ole started to talk about some topic randomly.
I know Alexis Sanchez has been a total flop here but I would honestly keep him. I wanted him gone before the transfer window but we didn't get a single quality attacker after selling Romelu Lukuku. Plus he is pretty much our only experienced attacker besides Rashford and Martial. Maybe a bit of an unpopular opinion around here.
The "puppet" comments makes no sense. The transfer window is not Ole being a puppet for the Glazers, or the board; it´s Ole´s visions for how to operate in the transfer marked coming through. If you disagree with the approach to sign players that really want to play for United, then blame in on Ole. If you want to keep on with the strategy from the past, and throw money at players like Sanchez, then alright. Up to you. But to call Ole a puppet when it´s the board actually listening to him, just makes no sense at all.
It's not something to gloat about, doesn't it?
One thing doesn't change though, no matter what kind of performance Ole gives in front of the cameras.https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...uild-this-summer-but-failed-to-act-once-again
I have seen the presser in full and I’m chocked how unprepared it was. Let’s call a spade for what it is. For you and some others things like this is nonsense but that doesn’t take away that what we saw split opinions and created more questions then answers.
There are hundreds of scientific studies about how to be a good and effective communicator. Great leaders knows the importance of how to deliver their message in the right way. Even if you don’t agree everything counts when you have any sorts of dialogue. It’s not what you say it’s how you say it that the audience will remember.
Being a great manager isn’t only about coaching footballers and set up the right formations. Install confidence and create belief is the other part and without it the first part means nothing.
Comments like ....."puppet" "lack of backbone" I guess these people were happy with Jose embarrassing the club in media.
You'd think he said he'll be successful next season then leave and those players won't be here next season rather than what he was actually saying, Some have been moved and now looking to get rid of more but if its not done like in Fifa then its not real is it?
I guess these people were happy with Jose embarrassing the club in media. People who refer to this, are they really that thick?Someone needs to point this out to Ole.Tweet
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You'd think he said he'll be successful next season then leave and those players won't be here next season rather than what he was actually saying, Some have been moved and now looking to get rid of more but if its not done like in Fifa then its not real is it?
Have you actually seen how some of the best clubs operate? Or asking about anything better than the current appalling running of the club is not real life and it's like asking we do that in Fifa mode? Players like Darmian and Rojo should have been moved out 2 years ago. They are still here, earning a wage Jan Vertonghen earns at Spurs . Shit like Young and Jones instead of getting rid got new contracts and you are telling me people are thick and should shut up and not act like "entitled to something" fans?
How inefficient the club operates and is being run, is one of the reason why we are so far behind the likes of City and Liverpool. Some fans after 6 years of false dawns and shit decisions after another got tired and are concerned, then there are some who think defending everything about the club is being a proper fan.
Calm down lad, Your rant has nothing to do with Ole's comments, I was referring to the quote you posted as people seem to think that comment means all players will be gone this summer but forget we got rid of some/looking to get rid and have demoted some to bench (fifa comment is about us doing it all at once.... have you seen how our club is? we'd be lucky to sell 2 let alone 4/5 in one window). Jones got a contract when he was caretaker, young isn't a first team player anymore and Thank god both have been replaced with better players.
Rest of your post is irreverent to my comment, maybe try reading next time?
I'm glad Ole is our manager and I think, given a bit of time, he'll be successful.
He's seen the quality of the young lads line Gomes, Garner, Chong and Greenwood and figured there's a chance to give these guys their opportunity.
There's a few more not far off too with Levit and Laird who we might see come through next summer.
It was telling that Chong, Greenwood and Gomes didn't feature last night for the U23s. Garner was terrific too and I reckon he'll be with the first team very soon.
Exciting times for me.
He's seen the quality of the young lads line Gomes, Garner, Chong and Greenwood and figured there's a chance to give these guys their opportunity.
There's a few more not far off too with Levit and Laird who we might see come through next summer.
It was telling that Chong, Greenwood and Gomes didn't feature last night for the U23s. Garner was terrific too and I reckon he'll be with the first team very soon.
Exciting times for me.
As I previously said in another reply, the quote was not meant as a dig to Ole, more of the club and Woodward. I guess Ole would have wanted to get rid of other players as well, but Woodward protects financial interest as his number 1 priority. People were not expecting all players to be gone, but christ we were expecting more departures than Lukaku being sold (our best striker) and loosing Herera (our second best midfielder) on a free. Practically we lost 2 players that were not priorities to be moved on.
We have deadwood like Rojo, Darmian, Jones, Young, Matic, Lingard, 6 of our most useless players are still here stealing a fortune from the club, and you expect people to be happy with that? There is not excuse imo. The English window is shut and I highly doubt that we will be able to sell anyone.
Pep sounds like he is on drugs when he talks to media and some of his PCs are lolworthy, he is easily in top 2 managers in the world. What manager says or acts in PC doesn't say anything about manager and their leadership qualities.
Managers won't be create confidence or build team in PC, it's what happens on training ground and dressing room is what counts. Not some PC which is just full of generic nonsense.
F*cking hell! United really do have the greatest supporters (away especially) but the worst f*cking 'fans'.
If you actually try to follow the club and not just regurgitate the sh*t the press put out then you will see that Ole is doing a great job so far.
He's restructured the fitness department, the youth set up, the style of play, he's addressed right back, CB, he won't sign players out of desparation if they don't have the right personality and he won't block the path of the young players. He sold Fellaini and Lukaku, 2 players that were never good enough for United - is this not what we have been crying out for? He's not finished yet, it doesn't happen in one window, it's not fifa or footy manager ffs!
We now have a young exciting team and I can't wait to see them in action. There will be be ups and downs in the season but I'll tell you now its going to be the most entertaining season since Sir Alex was in charge.
If you actually try to follow the club and not just regurgitate the sh*t the press put out then you will see that Ole is doing a great job so far.
He's restructured the fitness department, the youth set up, the style of play, he's addressed right back, CB, he won't sign players out of desparation if they don't have the right personality and he won't block the path of the young players. He sold Fellaini and Lukaku, 2 players that were never good enough for United - is this not what we have been crying out for? He's not finished yet, it doesn't happen in one window, it's not fifa or footy manager ffs!
We now have a young exciting team and I can't wait to see them in action. There will be be ups and downs in the season but I'll tell you now its going to be the most entertaining season since Sir Alex was in charge.
Love this
The CAF needs more posters like you.Some sense at last thank you. Too many game console fans showing their gaming anger on a football forum. They need a reality check... Literally
Ole has done right to talk up the "fringe players" and I think that he might have regretted the post-Everton comments in hindsight.
Not because he doesn't want to rebuild the squad, but because this is not FIFA 19... you can't sell players by just pressing a button!
going on about how bad your players are must plunge their market value. Who'd want to buy players that are ridiculed by their own fans? Public perception is a massive part of market value.
Not because he doesn't want to rebuild the squad, but because this is not FIFA 19... you can't sell players by just pressing a button!
going on about how bad your players are must plunge their market value. Who'd want to buy players that are ridiculed by their own fans? Public perception is a massive part of market value.
Completely agree my friend. Let's enjoy this season regardless of these cnuts ... I think we'll do well personally... even then I guarantee some idiots will still moan if we got third and won the FA cup.
He was being incredibly witty. Enjoyed your post though, would love to see Ole grow a pair, even a teeny little pair.
Think Ole has basically said it is now up to the players, he has shown faith in them, they now have to perform. They have been given their chance so they better take it.
Let’s agree to disagree.
The cultism I see now reminds me of when Moyes was around. Polarizing opinions and hard words against those who don’t follow the party line. History will repeat itself. When results go south then sooner or later someone is going to pay the price.
I agree with your comments on Ed, don't see many defending that clown and I also agree regarding deadwood as well but my issue was with the quote, that is used as a stick to beat our manager by wrongly interpreting it rather than for what it actually is...... The likes of Young/smalling/jones/rojo have been put in the back seat by signing Harry Maguire/Wan and bringing back Axel and we tried to sell Rojo/jones (in that west ham deal), hopefully we can get rid in the next 2/3 weeks in Europe (hopefully).
So for me there is effort made (not enough for United) on what he said and its up to him to not play those clowns regularly unless there are injuries/ up to Ed to sell them (not demand 25 mil for Rojo, as reported). I don't expect anyone to be happy with our window but not use that quote as if he said they won't be here next season and him being "happy with squad" (no manager is...... even pep) doesn't mean he doesn't want to get rid (most have been demoted/replaced). If he performs this season then I expect similar type of window next season with him replacing mid or attacking players (if we manage to sell)/ demoting them.
Selective quotes. Yes I think that Ole is a crap manager, I think over time that smile will slowly start to annoy more and more people and be seen as weakness and comparisons will be made to Moyes first day at the office.
Timelines are essential. So let’s just run through it.
After 10 games. People who 2 months before would have never considered Ole as United Manager were crying for him to be made permanent manager. They wanted the board to abandon the first good plan it had in years.
When 2 months later things went how you would expect with someone of Solskjaer’s pedigree managing a club like United those very people who judged him after 10 games said “it’s to soon to judge him now, give him a window and see how he does”
He’s had his window. Young, Jones, all the deadwood are here. He got rid of Fellaini, Herrera, and Lukaku... all 3 have been some of our most effective players over the years and he hasn’t replaced them. Our squad is worse our 11 is worse...
Now it’s either delusions that Solskjær will repeat what SAF did 95 with class of 92. Or “Ole gets a pass, I’m not judging him this season all the board fault”
Lukaku and Fellaini not Man Utd style players but they were VERY effective players to have in a squad with very limited quality. Only a dimwit trying to get votes of confidence from the fans sells them without replacing them with players of equal or superior quality.
Was there an embargoed bit. Can't seem to find it anywhere.
Exactly. People don't seem to understand that he doesn't actually sell players himself.
Just because people like Rojo aren't gone yet does not mean he actually plans to use them in the team. Ed just hasn't manage to get rid yet.
They probably were. I have noticed quite a few of the loudest moaners on here were those who could find nearly no wrong with Mourinho. Possibly still upset that he was sacked.Comments like ....."puppet" "lack of backbone"
These threads are just agenda driven nonsense at this stage. People reacting to other peoples reactions to the press conferences instead of just watching the the freely available videos that show exactly what he said in the actual context he said it in.
They'd rather get some spun version that suits their own agenda than get an accurate idea of what was said/meant. It's like getting your news from CNN, Fox, Gaurdian or Daily Mail. Why choose to to be misled?
Looks like you can't wait for it.
For such a body language and internet posts expert, you really struggle to see how Ole and Moyes are so different.
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Yeah, they choose to be misled just to be outraged. You see the quotes posted and without even checking videos you see the outraged posted banging their tables.
Yes and he has to. Imagine he would stand in front of the mic and dramatically say "This is awful, my players are complete shite or not ready yet. We will have a horrible season, why have I signed this contract..." *breaks down and starts sobbing hysterically* Would that be funny, of course, but he would probably not be our manager anymore.
My biggest concern - which I’m more than happy to stifle for half a season at least, until we’ve got some actual evidence to worry about - is that Ole is, at worst, being horrendously naive to think he can basically carbon copy Fergie’s approach to team building from 20+ years ago, which even he only effectively did once - in an era where the idea of a money bags mercenary side was the Blackburn team of Chris Sutton and Colin Hendry, and our biggest domestic competition was a Newcastle side with Darren Peacock, Steve Howey and Ruel Fox, augmented by the relative star quality of Ginola & Asprilla, who’d probably be playing midtable in the current age - into a much different, much more cosmopolitan era of English football....
Even if the likes of Greenwood and Gomes do step up in the way only really Rashford has in the post-Fergie era, we’re still looking at least 3-4 years before they’re adequately consistent first XI players ready to plausibly challenge for anything, and that’s just going off the examples of previous starlets, who were often surrounded by genuine big names to help them bed in/learn from... The Class of 92 had Cantona, Keane and a solid defence, and Rooney and Ronaldo then had the Class of 92... hell even Messi & Xavi made their bones in a recent CL winning Barca side with the likes of Ronaldinho, Eto’o and Henry in it...
The idea we can just throw all the youth in at once is alluring, sure, but potentially kamikaze.... for both us and them. The likes of West Ham & Southampton are also famous for bringing through youth, but the difference was they weren’t competitive with it. I dearly hope to a God I don’t believe in that he knows what he’s doing, or we’ll just be like them.
Even if the likes of Greenwood and Gomes do step up in the way only really Rashford has in the post-Fergie era, we’re still looking at least 3-4 years before they’re adequately consistent first XI players ready to plausibly challenge for anything, and that’s just going off the examples of previous starlets, who were often surrounded by genuine big names to help them bed in/learn from... The Class of 92 had Cantona, Keane and a solid defence, and Rooney and Ronaldo then had the Class of 92... hell even Messi & Xavi made their bones in a recent CL winning Barca side with the likes of Ronaldinho, Eto’o and Henry in it...
The idea we can just throw all the youth in at once is alluring, sure, but potentially kamikaze.... for both us and them. The likes of West Ham & Southampton are also famous for bringing through youth, but the difference was they weren’t competitive with it. I dearly hope to a God I don’t believe in that he knows what he’s doing, or we’ll just be like them.
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