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Nah it's not that, corset's just making this optical illusion (or is it), this belt thing's material is supposed to increase the temperature around the place it's fastened I guess, used in training, again, not sure it's really working but it looks like the grown ass man is trying it all.
 

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Nah it's not that, corset's just making this optical illusion (or is it), this belt thing's material is supposed to increase the temperature around the place it's fastened I guess, used in training, again, not sure it's really working but it looks like the grown ass man is trying it all.
Got it. Did it work on your mom?
 

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Got it. Did it work on your mom?
Not really :lol: Cannot blame it on the belt though, more like lack of dedication I guess. Her personal trainer was shit too though, coming up with some fecked up exercises and stupid ideas instead of getting her eating habits and basic health examination in check in the first place (turns out she's sufferring from Hashimoto's thyroiditis which massively impacts weight loss and needs a specific diet in itself).
 

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It was on an off any nothing to right home about. They haven't reinforced this team enough.
Ramsey
De Ligt
Rabiot

Can, Ronaldo and Bonucci coming back last year.

What more are they supposed to buy? Only other player they seem to have gone for this summer was Lukaku and they're probably better off that he's not come in. They need to find a way to reintegrate Dybala into this team.
 

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Underwhelming win for Inter. Next 5 rounds will show if they're up for challenging Juve this year or if it's another false dawn.
They've played poor teams so far and have been very underwhelming. I still don't see any creativity in this Inter team and expect Juve to get over their struggles and for Napoli to finish above them as well.
 

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Ramsey
De Ligt
Rabiot

Can, Ronaldo and Bonucci coming back last year.

What more are they supposed to buy? Only other player they seem to have gone for this summer was Lukaku and they're probably better off that he's not come in. They need to find a way to reintegrate Dybala into this team.
Ramsey & Rabiot while being good signings aren’t World Class. It improves them slightly but doesn’t take them up another level (which they would have needed to do to have the best chance of winning the CL). De Ligt is still relatively unproven being so young and has been pretty poor thus far. I’d say they needed 1 more signing this summer...maybe a Pogba to really be in the bracket with the absolute best in Europe.
 

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Ramsey & Rabiot while being good signings aren’t World Class. It improves them slightly but doesn’t take them up another level (which they would have needed to do to have the best chance of winning the CL). De Ligt is still relatively unproven being so young and has been pretty poor thus far. I’d say they needed 1 more signing this summer...maybe a Pogba to really be in the bracket with the absolute best in Europe.
I agree that the team may not be good enough to win the CL but this is the same team (with added improvements) to the one that can't stop winning the League. They really should win Serie A again barring an extraordinarily poor season.
 

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Juventus had 1 win out of their first 7 a couple of seasons ago (maybe more) and still won the league with ease. No way will another Italian team be capable of winning 9-10 games in a row.
They ripped off 24 wins and 1 draw in their next 25 games though :lol:

I mean, they won the league with ease with more than 90 points
 

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I agree that the team may not be good enough to win the CL but this is the same team (with added improvements) to the one that can't stop winning the League. They really should win Serie A again barring an extraordinarily poor season.
It's a better team top to bottom and bench than the one that made a CL final ffs
 

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It's a better team top to bottom and bench than the one that made a CL final ffs
As compared to the team that made the CL final they've since added:
Ronaldo
Can
Rabiot
De Ligt
Ramsey

That's the greatest CL player ever and one of the best defenders in the CL last year and then the others in midfield. I still get it that the team may not be good enough to go deep in the CL but this team should have more than enough to win the League. They've won it 7-8 years in a row and will win it again.
Bringing in Ronaldo and alienating Dybala seems to have only made their football worse though. Last season, whatever I watched of Juve, it just seemed like they're pumping in crosses to Ronaldo and score. They've become more predictable.
 

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Allegri is not technically free yet in that he is still under contract with Juve and Juve being Juve it means that if the season appears to go tits up by next international break, he might be well come back in charge, having spent a few months on holiday to reflect upon his own mistakes and his extremely conservative attitude.
 

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It's a better team top to bottom and bench than the one that made a CL final ffs
So is Tottenham’s... they’re still not an elite team on the same level as the best in the world. Juve aren’t either. The best teams in the world wouldn’t be starting Danilo or these versions of Bonucci, Khedira, Matuidi and Higuain.

Only way they win the CL this year is with a great draw. And even then they’ll need either De Ligt to massively step up and dominate the competition or Chiellini to make a comeback without looking like a 35 year old that tore his ACL.

They can win it and are 100% good enough to do so if things go their way but they haven’t done enough to prevent a repeat of last year
 

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Sorry what is this love for Higuain again?

I know Sarri loved him at Napoli and he did the business there but for example he didn't start the league cup final v Man. City (Hazard was false 9) so it's not like he's a must start player anymore in Sarriball.

Higuain had good scoring record for Juve in his first two seasons but last season he didn't reallly look good at all for Milan or Chelsea and surely finished as top level CF and one ready to move on to China or MLS so find it baffling he's back as leading striker. Indeed in a 0-0 game and Dybala unused sub, that is disappointing for me.
 

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So is Tottenham’s... they’re still not an elite team on the same level as the best in the world. Juve aren’t either. The best teams in the world wouldn’t be starting Danilo or these versions of Bonucci, Khedira, Matuidi and Higuain.

Only way they win the CL this year is with a great draw. And even then they’ll need either De Ligt to massively step up and dominate the competition or Chiellini to make a comeback without looking like a 35 year old that tore his ACL.

They can win it and are 100% good enough to do so if things go their way but they haven’t done enough to prevent a repeat of last year
Bull.Crap

They're a top 5 side in the world. Not on the level of City and Liverpool, no, but then no one else is either

They're easily on the level of barcelona, bayern and psg at least, and better than us, atletico, spurs, chelsea, ajax and the rest of the competition
 

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Bull.Crap

They're a top 5 side in the world. Not on the level of City and Liverpool, no, but then no one else is either

They're easily on the level of barcelona, bayern and psg at least, and better than us, atletico, spurs, chelsea, ajax and the rest of the competition
They’re on the same level as Bayern, Atlético and PSG. None of those teams are at the very elite of world football. They might be a top 5 team in the world but right now there are teams on a whole other level.

Barca, Liverpool and City are clearly on a different level to everyone else. Then Juve are on the same level with a bunch of teams. They’ve done nowhere near enough to close the gap and what happened last year vs Ajax can easily happen again. They just got completely dominated from start to finish by an average Fiorentina team... pretty much none of the teams you mentioned are capable of putting up such a terrible performance.

Juve are an elite team... when Chiellini and Douglas Costa are fit. That won’t happen for more than 2 games in a row though.
 

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I think Portuguese fans should stop worrying about Juve as a top, maybe elite or almost there team, it is such a nonsense this tier classification in mid Sep. Just enjoy the season, which is very long and not to be played as an exhibition, in fact nobody wins matches through entitlement and it may well be the last with their idol Ronaldo in a major league (or one more at PSG in some sort of players swap next year?). We will be fine or not, I think not and Allegri should really have won at least 1 CL title during his 5 years tenure at the peak of this Juve cycle, but nobody really cares anymore, it is just megarich entertainment just now...... nobody cares apart of Ronnie’s personal cult.
 

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They just got completely dominated from start to finish by an average Fiorentina team... pretty much none of the teams you mentioned are capable of putting up such a terrible performance.
Didn't watch barcelona against athletic and osasuna?

City just lost to norwich. And it wasn't even a fluke result, norwich were good for their win. And City happen to be one of the two teams who are on a higher level than juventus

Juve are an elite team... when Chiellini and Douglas Costa are fit. That won’t happen for more than 2 games in a row though.
We'll see
 

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Didn't watch barcelona against athletic and osasuna?

City just lost to norwich. And it wasn't even a fluke result, norwich were good for their win. And City happen to be one of the two teams who are on a higher level than juventus


We'll see
Looking at the xG Juve were 0.38 to Fiorentina's 1.48. Fair to say they were pretty horrible at creating anything and a bit lucky to get a point? City were 2.34 - 1.74 against Norwich so they could claim to have had ‘one of those days’.
 

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Looking at the xG Juve were 0.38 to Fiorentina's 1.48. Fair to say they were pretty horrible at creating anything and a bit lucky to get a point? City were 2.34 - 1.74 against Norwich so they could claim to have had ‘one of those days’.
Juventus were horrible against fiorentina sure. 3rd game of the season, 34° C heat, with a new manager who was on the bench for the first time. Point is, it's more likely to be a blip than anything serious. Too early to tell either way.

Also norwich-city xG 2.0-2.3 using Michael Caley's model
 

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Juventus were horrible against fiorentina sure. 3rd game of the season, 34° C heat, with a new manager who was on the bench for the first time. Point is, it's more likely to be a blip than anything serious. Too early to tell either way.

Also norwich-city xG 2.0-2.3 using Michael Caley's model
Where is the site for the other model?

I tend to agree though, early days and hard to look past Juve for Serie A.
 

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Not really :lol: Cannot blame it on the belt though, more like lack of dedication I guess. Her personal trainer was shit too though, coming up with some fecked up exercises and stupid ideas instead of getting her eating habits and basic health examination in check in the first place (turns out she's sufferring from Hashimoto's thyroiditis which massively impacts weight loss and needs a specific diet in itself).
That's too bad, but when she knows whats wrong it's hopefully possible to take it from there.
 

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Roma destroying Sassuolo.

Hope they can have a good season as they're always a side who picks up interesting players and are exciting to watch even if they don't win anything.
 

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Sassuolo are very interesting to watch. De Zerbi's positional play is excellent, they just lack enough quality to grind results. Against teams like AC Roma in their new attacking mode it's a bit suicidal to play like this. Still early days for Fonseca at Roma but I can definitely see what he is trying to create there and it is very positive.
 

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Roma destroying Sassuolo.

Hope they can have a good season as they're always a side who picks up interesting players and are exciting to watch even if they don't win anything.
Is Smalling playing?
 

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Didn't watch barcelona against athletic and osasuna?

City just lost to norwich. And it wasn't even a fluke result, norwich were good for their win. And City happen to be one of the two teams who are on a higher level than juventus


We'll see
Yeah I watched that. They were missing all their forwards and played a thousand times better than Juve did yesterday... City even more so. Did you actually watch those games? No clue how you can make that comparison if you did.

How many Juve players would even start for City or Barcelona? Ronaldo, Pjanic maybe, De Ligt? Alex Sandro for City too maybe? There is Chiellini and Costa and with them Juve have a team to rival any team in the world but they'll be injured more than half of the season... without them they are a lot worse.

I guess we'll get a proper look at them in Madrid on Wednesday but I very much doubt there will be any big improvements unless Rabiot and Ramsey can make a significant impact on that midfield.