Times change. As long as our philosophy is an attacking one that brings through youth then it can be the United philosophy.
Our most successful periods as a club have always been this philosophy. We just need to get the best people to allow to implement it.
Some of those people are at clubs that have been mentioned, United are not the only club on the planet to successfully adopt such a philosophy
I think most of us worked this out a couple of years ago, mate.
That's my number one criteria and to be honest I criticize the club but over the years I have completely failed to name anyone outside of Tuchel when he was at Dortmund. I'm curious to see more from Nagelsmann with a bigger budget but after that I have no idea about who is the best candidate.
Well for one it isn't your day job...
Firstly, it's true but it's always nice to have an idea or believe that you know better. As for the second part, that's how I understood your post and I totally agree but this club doesn't seem to anticipate anything which is why I want a DOF, I want someone at the club that has for only job to anticipate and work on the mid to long term instead of focusing on keeping his job on a week to week basis.Well for one it isn't your day job...
However I didn't mean in the sense that they were reading to hire, but there should be a watch list of managers which at present would include the likes of Nagelsmann, Rose etc
The most important thing though is to know the list of managers that fit the philosophy, track their progress etc
I don't get the feeling the club know that list given our track record of hiring.
Pretty much my thoughts too
That is what I am saying...
Oh, apologise. I agree with what you have said, it is not about reinventing the wheel, it's just about making it better.
He hasn't worked as a DoF.
Head of recruitment? Similar roles really, he would handle transfers and contracts and make sure we sign the correct players for a certain style of play, plus he has good football knowledge. Him working together with Ole as technical director if you want to be pedantic.
We were heavily linked with him for about a year, and his club promoted him
You may want to go away and understand what a DoF is. From your reply, you haven't quite grasped what they do at a club.
I wouldn’t say heavily, but linked yes. He is quoted as saying he is ‘flattered ‘ and ‘a Manchester lad’, so why can’t we go and get him?
Ok. Can you explain briefly what a director of football does and I will check to see whether it is what I understand it to be?
The problem with what you just stated is that there is not a clear answer to the question. A DoF can have very different work assignments at different clubs. Its not like the powers of a DoF is statuted by law or anything. Its different from club to club. So its actually a very valid question that was posed to you. You should take some time and try to answer it coherently.
Do not disagree
For Woodward it would change nothing, currently football decisions are mainly taken by the manager, Butt and allegedly Murtough and since Woodward is the CEO no one take any decision away from him at the exception of the owners. Now fair questions would be, what is the dynamic between Ole, Murtough, Woodward and Butt? Who has the initiative and in which domains? After answering those questions you should be able to determine if the club needs a DOF and what role he should precisely have.
Here you go...
Done. Thank you for your reply.
Exactly, thanks. Basically, we want someone to come in and leave the coaching to the coach/manager and focus on using the transfer budget well and targeting the right players for a continuous style of play. Get someone in with good football knowledge and experience in similar roles to take the decision making away from the likes of Woodward.
“In other cases, the role of the director of football may include control over transfer dealings and targets and aspects outside coaching and squad selection, which are handled by the manager.”
But you originally said just head of recruitment. That's not just what a DoF would be doing. He would have to be in charge of all the staff. Getting in the correct coaches, scouts etc. Mitchell has mainly worked as a head scout, who doesn't have to deal with all the other stuff mentioned.
Yes. In an ideal world, Woodward sets a rough budget and then leaves the scouting and recruitment to Mitchell and the manager. But it clearly won’t happen because the Glazers and Woodward want to hold the reigns.
No, I said director of football. But it’s a title that covers a lot of different roles like Johan7 said, so can vary. Mitchell has worked as head of recruitment, so he would be in charge of recruiting youth team players to first team and also coaches.
So do you believe that this is what Martin Edwards at Liverpool is doing? Serious question. Really?
Exactly. Paul Mitchell for me would be a big appointment for us.
You see that is for me the problem in these conversations. The Glazers and Woodward are respectively the owners and the CEO, there isn't a scenario where these people whoever they are don't hold the reigns, whatever the structure within the club this will be true even if the Glazers and Woodward didn't exist.
About Martin Edwards, you wrote 'IMO'. So it's YOUR opinion, not a state of fact. So really, you don't know what he really does.
He would still be though. I mean in general that is.
Yes but there should be a scenario where the ceo sets a rough budget, say 100mil for a season, and then Paul Mitchell gets on with his scouting work and conversations with the coaches and uses the budget well and handles negotiations etc. So ultimately, if the manager doesn’t work out, we can move on, get in a compatible one without an upheaval.
