James Maddison - Off field antics

[Bestietom]

I wouldn’t pay that for him even if he was a well scrubs posh boy who goes to bed by 9.
We’ve bought plenty of overpriced limited players over the last six years, let’s stop doing that.

100m on this fella ffs.

Well that's what we will have to pay if we want him. Leicester will want to keep him and it will take this amount to even tempt them into letting him go.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

I have to question how much you’ve actually seen of Maddison if you describe him as ‘limited’ .. he’s a superb footballer technically, capable of some brilliant things, and for a while now he’s done those things consistently. And also still very young for a midfielder .. so where does limited really come from?

100m is admittedly a lot, and yeah too much for him, but Leicester don’t need to sell, so..

I don’t like English midfielders, they are all incredibly overrated.
England haven’t produced a world class midfielder in two decades, Maddison ain’t going to be one either, maybe Foden but he’s a City player, Wilshere was the only one who came through in that period with the guile, the technique and the 1 touch play to become one.
I don’t see Maddison becoming a consistent match winner ala Lampard or Gerrard either and he lacks their physicality, he also seems like a knobhead, I hope we steer well clear.

Spurs seems to love their overrated English midfielders (Dier, Alli, Winks), you can have him, knock yourself out.

 

[Bestietom]

I don’t like English midfielders, they are all incredibly overrated.
England haven’t produced a world class midfielder in two decades, Maddison ain’t going to be one either, maybe Foden but he’s a City player, Wilshere was the only one who came through in that period with the guile, the technique and the 1 touch play to become one.
I don’t see Maddison becoming a consistent match winner ala Lampard or Gerrard either and he lacks their physicality.

Spurs seems to love their overrated English midfielders (Dier, Alli, Winks), you can have him, knock yourself out.

I would rather we turned away from English players also, mate. Plenty of better midfielders than Maddison . I would prefer Eriksen who is out of contract next summer.

 

[duffer]

And what does that have to do with playing poker?

Nothing, where did I say it did?

 

[starman]

I thought this was nothing, and the media is just trying to create a story, but apparently he's supposed to have pulled out the squad because he was ill rather than being injuried. That's not a good look.

 

[dev1l]

I would rather we turned away from English players also, mate. Plenty of better midfielders than Maddison . I would prefer Eriksen who is out of contract next summer.

Erikssen wants to go to Spain if the press are to be believed

 

[dev1l]

Maddison is a massive prick but he s one of the few top players who wants to join us.
It won t be an easy decision to make..

 

[Irrational.]

Sounds like a bellend but aren't most footballers?

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Maddison is a massive prick but he s one of the few top players who wants to join us.
It won t be an easy decision to make..

Maddison is a top player? Then I guess 2010-2011 Jack Wilshere was already world class.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

I don’t like English midfielders, they are all incredibly overrated.
England haven’t produced a world class midfielder in two decades, Maddison ain’t going to be one either, maybe Foden but he’s a City player, Wilshere was the only one who came through in that period with the guile, the technique and the 1 touch play to become one.
I don’t see Maddison becoming a consistent match winner ala Lampard or Gerrard either and he lacks their physicality, he also seems like a knobhead, I hope we steer well clear.

Spurs seems to love their overrated English midfielders (Dier, Alli, Winks), you can have him, knock yourself out.

You don’t like a player automatically because of his nationality? Bizarre. Because a country struggles to produce a certain type of player doesn’t mean all their midfielders are shite, this is bizarre logic. Not so long ago England had some of the best midfielders in the world.

Maddison is class. Technically he’s up there with some of the best midfielders in the league. Physically he more than holds his own.

I’d love him at Spurs and he would walk in to our team.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Maddison is a top player? Then I guess 2010-2011 Jack Wilshere was already world class.

Maddison has been far more consistently impressive than Wilshere ever was. Wilshere had a couple of great games (the one vs Barca in particular) and got hyped up.

Maddison has a full productive season from CM under his belt, and has been even better thus far this season.

 

[The Cat]

Story says he was out between 8 and 9. Don't see the issue if he's been sent home not to infect the rest of the squad. Doesn't mention any drinking or bad antics. Yeah there are bad stories regularly in the papers but this seems over the top he wasn't even allowed to travel in the squad to watch.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Maddison has been far more consistently impressive than Wilshere ever was. Wilshere had a couple of great games (the one vs Barca in particular) and got hyped up.

Maddison has a full productive season from CM under his belt, and has been even better thus far this season.

You’re not very good in evaluating midfielders aren’t you?

I hope Maddison plays for whoever he wants as long it isn’t Manchester United paying 100m for him I couldn’t care less.

 

[DoomSlayer]

You’re not very good in evaluating midfielders aren’t you?

I hope Maddison plays for whoever he wants as long it isn’t Manchester United paying 100m for him I couldn’t care less.

I agree that for the quoted fees, Maddison is extremely overrated. At £50 million he might be worth the risk but anything more is asking for us to be taken for a ride yet again.

We should be finding such players in earlier stages, whilst their prices haven't eclipsed the £20-£30 million mark.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

I agree that for the quoted fees, Maddison is extremely overrated. At £50 million he might be worth the risk but anything more is asking for us to be taken for a ride yet again.

We should be finding such players in earlier stages, whilst their prices haven't eclipsed the £20-£30 million mark.

Absolutely right.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

You’re not very good in evaluating midfielders aren’t you?

I hope Maddison plays for whoever he wants as long it isn’t Manchester United paying 100m for him I couldn’t care less.

You’ve just admitted to evaluating players on the basis of nationality and you’re accusing ME of poor judgement?


For 100m sure, I get that. You expect a fully packaged world class player, or at least someone almost guaranteed to reach that, for a fee like that.

 

[Lennon7]

What’s the issue, sorry? Are footballers allowed only to be spotted at charity events and supermarkets? Jesus Christ.

 

[Kostur]

Mind the business that pays you. Footballers get to have a life and can do whatever the hell they want. As someone said above we should only be concerned with why they do on he pitch and at United.

This is massively short sighted thinking that gets you dick players into the squad and we've already got plethora of those. You'd think and hope that the club's doing background checks on future could-be-players and actually views stirring shit up with random people on a night out and gambling as potential risks.

Me myself I couldn't give a shit in the slightest, mind.

 

[Castia]

What’s the issue, sorry? Are footballers allowed only to be spotted at charity events and supermarkets? Jesus Christ.

Think it’s because at the time he was spotted he had pulled out of the England squad for being unwell, literally the time England was kicking off. Doesn’t look great does it, pull out of the game being unwell then spotted in a casino.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

Think it’s because at the time he was spotted he had pulled out of the England squad for being unwell, literally the time England was kicking off. Doesn’t look great does it, pull out of the game being unwell then spotted in a casino.

OK this is a key point, he didn't pull out of anything, he felt well enough to be there and train, the England medical staff sent him home to stop it spreading amongst the squad, its says as much in the stories the Sun and Mail posted

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

You’ve just admitted to evaluating players on the basis of nationality and you’re accusing ME of poor judgement?


For 100m sure, I get that. You expect a fully packaged world class player, or at least someone almost guaranteed to reach that, for a fee like that.

Nah I didn’t.
I would be all for us paying over the odds for a young Gerrard, Wilshere (minus the injuries) or a Scholes, the same as I were all for us paying top money for Rooney and Ferdinand, Maddison for 100m ain’t going to cut it.

He’s a good player, but I don’t see him as a talent worthy of such price tags, not even close, no thanks.

 

[SquishyMcSquish]

Nah I didn’t.
I would be all for us paying over the odds for a young Gerrard, Wilshere (minus the injuries) or a Scholes, the same as I were all for us paying top money for Rooney and Ferdinand, Maddison for 100m ain’t going to cut it.

He’s a good player, but I don’t see him as a talent worthy of such price tags, not even close, no thanks.

‘I don’t like English midfielders, they are all incredibly overrated.’

Maddison is doing more than Wilshere was. He’s not Gerrard or Scholes but that’s one hell of a bar to set.

And again yeah, I agree that not wanting to throw 100m at him is reasonable. There’s a big gap between that and dismissing his ability entirely though.

 

[Red_toad]

It’s also suggested that this isn’t the first instance

Yes he likes to gamble and plays in poker tournaments, sometimes giving his winnings to charity. It’s his money and it’s no one else’s business. It’s a complete none story.

 

[Vidyoyo]

I agree that for the quoted fees, Maddison is extremely overrated. At £50 million he might be worth the risk but anything more is asking for us to be taken for a ride yet again.

We should be finding such players in earlier stages, whilst their prices haven't eclipsed the £20-£30 million mark.

How easy is that though? Most of the big teams tend to pick up players from slightly smaller clubs. I assume them being there is an important part in their mental development.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Can we though? Most of the big teams pick up players from slightly smaller clubs because being there is an important part in their development.

People tend to take the mental side out of football but I'm sure a lot of potential great players would wilt if they moved from League One to a Top 4 club.

Maguire could’ve been bought from
Hull and Maddison could’ve been bought from Norwich.

 

[KennyBurner]

This is massively short sighted thinking that gets you dick players into the squad and we've already got plethora of those. You'd think and hope that the club's doing background checks on future could-be-players and actually views stirring shit up with random people on a night out and gambling as potential risks.

Me myself I couldn't give a shit in the slightest, mind.

How does a player going to a casino make him a dick exactly? Most of the things we criticize players for are usually what normal people do.

Honestly I dont really care whether or not we have arrogant players or "dicks" as you put it as long as they have the quality to back it. The "dicks" that you do claim we have enough of at the club most likely dont have the ability to match it. Thats the difference. The reason why we are sitting in the bottom half is not because players like jesse lingard love to act childish but because they are not good players to begin with. George best was notorious for his off field antics yet we dont criticize him for it. I wonder why?

On a side note its tiring that fans wont blame footballing ability but would rather focus on less important things like what players do in their spare time. Its all a distraction and doesn't help solve why we have spent so much money and still cant muster a decent football squad together. At the end of the day if we decide to go for Maddison I dont see a problem with it as long as he is professional on field and during training. That is whats important along side the fact that he is quality.

 

[Vidyoyo]

Maguire could’ve been bought from
Hull and Maddison could’ve been bought from Norwich.

I realise but I'm asking would they have been as good? People tend to assume the likes of Maguire and Maddison would be just as good for a Top 4 club as they are for Leicester. I'm more convinced players know being at clubs like that allow them to iron out the kinks, which is vital for personal development, allowing them to move to a bigger team later on.

Not always, but often.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

I realise but I'm asking, would they have been as good? People tend to assume the likes of Maguire and Maddison would be just as good for a Top 4 club as they were for Leicester. I'm convinced players know that being at clubs like that allow them to iron out the kinks, which is vital for personal development, allowing them to move to a bigger team.

Not always, but often.

Maguire yes, Maddison no

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

I realise but I'm asking, would they have been as good? People just assume Maguire and Maddison would be as good as they were for Leicester if they'd moved to a Top 4 club but I remain unconvinced about it. Players know that being at clubs like Leicester allow them to iron out the kinks, which is vital for personal development, allowing them to move to a bigger team.

Robertson did alright. Training daily with better players has its own merits.
I would imagine training sessions at City and Liverpool are at a higher level than most teams’s matches, just like it was back in day at United.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

Robertson did alright. Training daily with better players has its own merits.
I would imagine training sessions at City and Liverpool are at a higher level than most teams’s matches, just like it was back in day at United.

Maguire would have been ready if you had signed him at Hull, Maddison wouldn't he still needs to be better with his decision making, needs at least another year with us before he'd be ready to step up to a Liverpool or Man City

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Maguire would have been ready if you had signed him at Hull, Maddison wouldn't he still needs to be better with his decision making, needs at least another year with us before he'd be ready to step up to a Liverpool or Man City

Maddison is not good enough for City and Liverpool wouldn’t be stupid enough to pay 100m for him when they could possibly go for a player like Kai Havertz for the same price if not cheaper, who is miles more talented and better already.

 

[Jimmy Skitz]

Maddison is not good enough for City and Liverpool wouldn’t be stupid enough to pay 100m for him when they could possibly go for a player like Kai Havertz for the same price if not cheaper, who is miles more talented and better already.

yes but you lot are in a more desperate state, you need so many players and don't seem to have much of a plan oh and you (the club not fans) love boasting about how much money you make, so clubs will see you coming and rinse you for all they can get.

More than any player you need a real director of football, to appoint a proper manager/head coach and set out your recruitment policy, until you have that you'll keep playing over the odds for players

 

[passing-wind]

Solskjaer will be out the club quicker than Maddison would be brought in. I don't see the point in the club briefing next summer transfer when they will rid the manager. Makes no sense.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

Solskjaer will be out the club quicker than Maddison would be brought in. I don't see the point in the club briefing next summer transfer when they will rid the manager. Makes no sense.

I agree, don’t think Nagelsmann would be on board with a Pogba out, Maddison and Rice in type of deal, no way Jose.

 

[fergiesarmy1]

Story says he was out between 8 and 9. Don't see the issue if he's been sent home not to infect the rest of the squad. Doesn't mention any drinking or bad antics. Yeah there are bad stories regularly in the papers but this seems over the top he wasn't even allowed to travel in the squad to watch.

You would hope watching the game would be a higher priority for him than going to a shitty casino in Leicester.

 

[andersj]

It do not make much sense to buy players from top 10 PL clubs. The premium Man Utd have to pay is too high. I can understand it on the rare occasion, special talent or limited option (Maguire). I think Maddison is great, but dont think he belong in either category. He is certainly not a Rio, Rooney, Sterling, Sancho type of talent. And there is quite a few good options.

Obviously, there is more risk relating to a player like Dani Olmo. But he is alot cheaper and his ceiling could turn out to be even higher. He is two years younger than Maddison. Probably less than half the price. And we need several players. Maybe buying Olmo could put us in a better position if we want to sign Fabian Ruiz?

 

[The Cat]

You would hope watching the game would be a higher priority for him than going to a shitty casino in Leicester.

They would have shown it anyway. Maybe he preferred some downtime.

 

[Wumminator]

There was something in the air that night.

I was pleased when Leicester won the league but with the Thai orgy, betraying of friends to The Sun, selection of Robbie Savage, and casino antics of Vardy and Maddison they have to be the most scandalous club in football history.

The state of some of the young fans in the world right now. Don't even have a basic understanding of the history of the sport. Look up Harchester United ffs.

 

[fergiesarmy1]

They would have shown it anyway. Maybe he preferred some downtime.

In the casino? Don’t think he was paying any attention to it if so, tv’s are usually in the bar area and away from the tables from my experience also.

 

[jeff gurr]

Personally speaking as a Leicester fan I hope this ridiculous newspaper article puts of all the big boys off and they lose interest in him. I'm pretty certain that all Man Utd players just stay home, maybe watch a documentary or just read a good book. You don't want a playboy with obvious gambling problems like Maddison, just leave him at Leicester.