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I am still not convinced we will see Ole sign any non british players. Someone get in his ear and tell him there are midfielders and forwards available on the continent. Stop waiting for English players who will cost a fortune.

We are always going to end up paying a Utd premium when it comes to signing players,however with Ole's plan we are always paying the british one too.
I m sure we will sign a non British players - we tried in Summer.
Reports in the Italian media yesterday said that prior to signing Maguire, we made a big offer for Koulibaly but Napoli refused to sell.
 

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The difference between Liverpool's situation back then to current day United is completely different. Dalglish left the club with an ageing squad and an unsustainable wage bill. It took them years to recover. United is one of the most financially secure football clubs on the planet with enough resources to buy there way back to the top. Returning to the top is inevitable.

We won't have to wait 30 years until our next title triumph. Ole is right.
Same here - shit squad and wage bill must cone down. Get real ffs
 

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The difference between Liverpool's situation back then to current day United is completely different. Dalglish left the club with an ageing squad and an unsustainable wage bill. It took them years to recover.
He did. Souness didn’t exactly help by binning off players with plenty left in them and buying loads of expensive dross. Getting the right man in might have made a massive difference.
United is one of the most financially secure football clubs on the planet with enough resources to buy there way back to the top. Returning to the top is inevitable.

We won't have to wait 30 years until our next title triumph. Ole is right.
I really hope you’re right. Spending huge sums on average players isn’t going to take us there.
 

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Same here - shit squad and wage bill must cone down. Get real ffs
We cut our wage bill by £1 million after axing the deadwood from the squad in the summer. It's more than sustainable right now.

The current squad is dogshit, sure, but given the resources our club has at its disposal, it's highly unlikely it will be equally as shit 25 years from now - not unless Jose Mourinho manages the club for a couple of decades straight.
 

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He did. Souness didn’t exactly help by binning off players with plenty left in them and buying loads of expensive dross. Getting the right man in might have made a massive difference.

I really hope you’re right. Spending huge sums on average players isn’t going to take us there.
I couldn't agree with you more.
 

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I never thought we'd go ten years without winning a title, at this point I'm sure that'll be the case. It would be insane to think we could go 30 years without winning the league, but who really knows.
 

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One of the things that disturbs me most highly about him at the moment is the lack of animation on the touchline.

I just want to see him go sick at our players once. Just once.

Show us just a small hint that he is capable of giving these players a kick up the arse, even if he is playing the nice guy in public.

As it stands I don't trust that he is, I think he's just quite a gentle guy who won't tear a strip off them when they need it, and they definitely need it right now.
 

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One of the things that disturbs me most highly about him at the moment is the lack of animation on the touchline.

I just want to see him go sick at our players once. Just once.

Show us just a small hint that he is capable of giving these players a kick up the arse, even if he is playing the nice guy in public.

As it stands I don't trust that he is, I think he's just quite a gentle guy who won't tear a strip off them when they need it, and they definitely need it right now.
Always found LVG more frustrating with that, rarely left his seat as if it was below him to do so.
 

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that smile is so annoying. Just irks of someone who’s stumbled upon a goldmine and gone from broke to filthy rich but has no idea what to do with it and will end up broke again very soon.
A gormless grin. He's the kind of idiot who sails through life without a care in the world and despite being an ignoramus always manages to land on his feet.

He's like Homer Simpson while we're all Frank Grimes.
 

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Did Klopp ever relegated an EPL side? Was he consistently shit at every club he managed at a decent level?

Ole taunting Klopp spanks of arrogance and delusion
This gets thrown around alot on here these days, but who truly were gonna save Cardiff that season? The owner was a joke, and sacked Pearson who did a great job getting them where they were, and also had a strong relationship with the fans. Their form was already down the drain, and looking where they are now is all the proof you need.

Plus I find it more humiliating to take his Dortmund side to just above relegation, than it was to stop fecking Cardiff City from being relegated. But hey, lets just give Klopp all the excuses, and just for the record, I believe Klopp to be the best manager around currently, but every manager has rubbish spells, and Cardiff was a bad decision to join.
 
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This gets thrown around alot on here these days, but who truly were gonna save Cardiff that season? The owner was a joke, and sacked Pearson who did a great job getting them where they were, and also had a strong relationship with the fans. Their form was already down the drain, and looking where they are now is all the proof you need.


Plus I find it more humiliating to take his Dortmund side to just above relegation, than it was to stop fecking Cardiff City from being relegated. But hey, lets just give Klopp all the excuses, and just for the record, I believe Klopp to be the best manager around currently, but every manager has rubbish spells, and Cardiff was a bad decision to join.
Can you please remind me were Ole did well as a permanent manager? Amateur level does not apply

I think ole should focus in not getting sacked instead of coming out with this crap. The pressure is on him to perform not Klopp.
 

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I think ole should focus in not getting sacked instead of coming out with this crap. The pressure is on him to perform not Klopp.
He should focus on what he feels is right and ignore everything else, especially all the bullshit and negativity. He's bought some exciting players and got rid of some very expensive dead wood. He's trying to build in the right way imho.

What hurts us United fans more is not how badly we are performing, more the fact Liverpool are so fecking good. Like it or not, both sides have more in common than we like to admit at times. Both working mans clubs, both have dominated at home and abroad and both have done it with style and swagger playing fast attacking football. Both have a strong history of winning with home grown players and both like fast wingers and talented strikers.

What Ole needs is the support from his fans, the real fans, not the wankers who just want instant success. Imagine if Sir Alex was manager now. Can you imagine the shit he would get? It was bad enough back then, I can't imagine what it would be like now.

If Ole fails it certainly won't be for a lack of passion or trying and I would rather support him than anyone else simply because he loves United and is here for love, not the money.
 

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He should focus on what he feels is right and ignore everything else, especially all the bullshit and negativity. He's bought some exciting players and got rid of some very expensive dead wood. He's trying to build in the right way imho.

What hurts us United fans more is not how badly we are performing, more the fact Liverpool are so fecking good. Like it or not, both sides have more in common than we like to admit at times. Both working mans clubs, both have dominated at home and abroad and both have done it with style and swagger playing fast attacking football. Both have a strong history of winning with home grown players and both like fast wingers and talented strikers.

What Ole needs is the support from his fans, the real fans, not the wankers who just want instant success. Imagine if Sir Alex was manager now. Can you imagine the shit he would get? It was bad enough back then, I can't imagine what it would be like now.

If Ole fails it certainly won't be for a lack of passion or trying and I would rather support him than anyone else simply because he loves United and is here for love, not the money.
Well said, Ole is getting blamed by the out brigade for literally everything. Even the players are getting a pass by them.
 

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Did Klopp ever relegated an EPL side? Was he consistently shit at every club he managed at a decent level?

Ole taunting Klopp spanks of arrogance and delusion
He relegated a German side, which is a weaker league than PL. But that doesn't suit your agenda, so it doesn't count, right?
 

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This is what I was worried about when Ole was given the job. We knew he'd be out of his depths but how the fans have turned on him is unfortunate.

Ole was always a guy who would smile etc and be positive. He had to endure so much as a player. At one point Fergie agreed to sell him to Spurs, for him to decline the offer and work hard on the pitch, to prove the manager wrong. The guy has the balls and work ethic to try and bring the club back but he unfortunately just won't be able to.

I just don't want his rightful legendary status to be too tarnished. Many of our supporters won't even remember him as a player and his time as a manager is all they will go off from.
 

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Can you please remind me were Ole did well as a permanent manager? Amateur level does not apply

I think ole should focus in not getting sacked instead of coming out with this crap. The pressure is on him to perform not Klopp.
So Ole shouldn't be answering questions directed towards him? Very strange view my friend.
And for the record, he had a solid Europa campaign with a very underwhelming Molde side, his home town side, which deserves some credit, instead of constant belittling.
 

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He should focus on what he feels is right and ignore everything else, especially all the bullshit and negativity. He's bought some exciting players and got rid of some very expensive dead wood. He's trying to build in the right way imho.

What hurts us United fans more is not how badly we are performing, more the fact Liverpool are so fecking good. Like it or not, both sides have more in common than we like to admit at times. Both working mans clubs, both have dominated at home and abroad and both have done it with style and swagger playing fast attacking football. Both have a strong history of winning with home grown players and both like fast wingers and talented strikers.

What Ole needs is the support from his fans, the real fans, not the wankers who just want instant success. Imagine if Sir Alex was manager now. Can you imagine the shit he would get? It was bad enough back then, I can't imagine what it would be like now.

If Ole fails it certainly won't be for a lack of passion or trying and I would rather support him than anyone else simply because he loves United and is here for love, not the money.
:lol: He is here because he got an offer he couldn't refuse. He is like the 3rd best paid manager in the league and his wages got multiplied 10x compared to what he got at Molde. You kind of make it sound like he dropped his amazing job and came here to save us while it's far from truth. Also this part "What hurts us United fans more is not how badly we are performing, more the fact Liverpool are so fecking good." is not true. What hurts fans like me is seeing how this great club moves closer and closer towards a complete mediocrity, hiring nothing managers like Ole and expecting him to magically turn into SAF while constantly lowering expectations and desperately looking for excuses why our managers fail. I have seen everything on this forum, from "our squad is not better than Newcastle's to "Ole is faultless". Our generally deluded fanbase is partly to blame for all this mess.
 

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So Ole shouldn't be answering questions directed towards him? Very strange view my friend.
And for the record, he had a solid Europa campaign with a very underwhelming Molde side, his home town side, which deserves some credit, instead of constant belittling.
Considering the mess we are in and his inexperience then he should be respectful towards the European champions who have a way better manager then us. Seniority does matter especially with under fire managers. Sir Alex was taunted by Clough in his early years and he avoided such controversy altogether.

You haven't answered my question
 

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This gets thrown around alot on here these days, but who truly were gonna save Cardiff that season? The owner was a joke, and sacked Pearson who did a great job getting them where they were, and also had a strong relationship with the fans. Their form was already down the drain, and looking where they are now is all the proof you need.

Plus I find it more humiliating to take his Dortmund side to just above relegation, than it was to stop fecking Cardiff City from being relegated. But hey, lets just give Klopp all the excuses, and just for the record, I believe Klopp to be the best manager around currently, but every manager has rubbish spells, and Cardiff was a bad decision to join.
At least he had the courage and the dignity to admit that his time at BvB was up and that he couldn't offer anything more to the club. He didn't spout nonsense about cultures, processes and long-term plans. His exact words were: "I'm leaving because the club deserves the 100% right manager". This was from the same man who had won them consecutive Bundesliga titles and also led them to a CL final. The presser when he announced his decision to leave at the end of the season is one of his best moments. His calmness, his clear mind, the way that he didn't hide behind excuses or past successes. Ole could have us in 20th place and i can still see him blabbering about the United way and the future of the club.

Anyway, drawing parallels with Klopp and SAF is bizarre. Klopp is one of the two best managers in the world, something that Solskjaer will never be. SAF was the best manager in the history of the sport, enough said.


He relegated a German side, which is a weaker league than PL. But that doesn't suit your agenda, so it doesn't count, right?
There's no agenda, only facts. When he got the gig at Mainz, they were trying to avoid relegation into the tier of German football. He saved them, he promoted them, he led them to Europe and after their relegation, he didn't walk away but stayed instead and promoted them again in the next season. Any comparison with Ole's tenure at Cardiff is nonsensical since Solskjaer hasn't achieved any of these things in any of the 5 big leagues.
 

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Well said, Ole is getting blamed by the out brigade for literally everything. Even the players are getting a pass by them.
The sick lot are now into micro analysing his face expressions.. they don't like them.
Next they LL tell us he eats babies for lunch...
 

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Well said, Ole is getting blamed by the out brigade for literally everything. Even the players are getting a pass by them.
I'm disgusted by this forum tbh. It's why I rarely post anywhere but the current events. I love this club. I have so many friends on this site but I can't deal with the hate and negativity. I get the frustration but as I have said in other threads, United do not have a god given right to win. United challenge, and when they win we celebrate and we as fans should be happy we have won more than anyone else over the last 25 years. Imagine being a Villa fan or a Leeds fan. We have been through shit and made mistakes and deserve criticism, but now we have a manager who loves the club like we do and has trying to do things the right way and we show support him not hate him. He needs time, sadly though, that's something the FIFA generation can't give him as they want everything now.
 

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He relegated a German side, which is a weaker league than PL. But that doesn't suit your agenda, so it doesn't count, right?
Klopp also built mainz taking them to 4th place twice on a shoe string budget. He is considered a great manager in the Bundesliga. What is Ole's record in the EPL?
 

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He should focus on what he feels is right and ignore everything else, especially all the bullshit and negativity. He's bought some exciting players and got rid of some very expensive dead wood. He's trying to build in the right way imho.

What hurts us United fans more is not how badly we are performing, more the fact Liverpool are so fecking good. Like it or not, both sides have more in common than we like to admit at times. Both working mans clubs, both have dominated at home and abroad and both have done it with style and swagger playing fast attacking football. Both have a strong history of winning with home grown players and both like fast wingers and talented strikers.

What Ole needs is the support from his fans, the real fans, not the wankers who just want instant success. Imagine if Sir Alex was manager now. Can you imagine the shit he would get? It was bad enough back then, I can't imagine what it would be like now.

If Ole fails it certainly won't be for a lack of passion or trying and I would rather support him than anyone else simply because he loves United and is here for love, not the money.
I couldn't care less what other teams are doing. I care about how United are playing and it is awful. It isn't even about results as such, although losing to the likes of Palace, Newcastle etc is pathetic. I just want to enjoy watching United play. I know we are rebuilding, I know it will take time, but there should be some pattern to our play. Those players just look like they have been thrown together and told to go out and run about.
 

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He should focus on what he feels is right and ignore everything else, especially all the bullshit and negativity. He's bought some exciting players and got rid of some very expensive dead wood. He's trying to build in the right way imho.

What hurts us United fans more is not how badly we are performing, more the fact Liverpool are so fecking good. Like it or not, both sides have more in common than we like to admit at times. Both working mans clubs, both have dominated at home and abroad and both have done it with style and swagger playing fast attacking football. Both have a strong history of winning with home grown players and both like fast wingers and talented strikers.

What Ole needs is the support from his fans, the real fans, not the wankers who just want instant success. Imagine if Sir Alex was manager now. Can you imagine the shit he would get? It was bad enough back then, I can't imagine what it would be like now.

If Ole fails it certainly won't be for a lack of passion or trying and I would rather support him than anyone else simply because he loves United and is here for love, not the money.
No one is expecting success anytime soon. What fans are expecting is to watch a team that has some idea of tactics. A team that isn't constantly being outwitted by shit managers with shitter squads

I am glad you can recognise between real fans or not. Hopefully I will be able to graduate as a top red like you did soon enough
 
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Considering the mess we are in and his inexperience then he should be respectful towards the European champions who have a way better manager then us. Seniority does matter especially with under fire managers. Sir Alex was taunted by Clough in his early years and he avoided such controversy altogether.

You haven't answered my question
Nonsense, I have no problem with any United manager taking digs towards Liverpool, regardless of who is in charge and what they have achieved. Also, there is no disrespect in his comments, or anything that resembles inexperience, he just pointed out, he doesn't believe United, no himself, wouldn't go 30 yeas without a title, any I find that hard to disagree with. The largest supported club and one of the richest revenues will be fine long term.

I also answered your question by pointing out his europa league campaigns wwith Molde, where he faced superior opposition and went into most games underdogs.
 

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Nonsense, I have no problem with any United manager taking digs towards Liverpool, regardless of who is in charge and what they have achieved. Also, there is no disrespect in his comments, or anything that resembles inexperience, he just pointed out, he doesn't believe United, no himself, wouldn't go 30 yeas without a title, any I find that hard to disagree with. The largest supported club and one of the richest revenues will be fine long term.

I also answered your question by pointing out his europa league campaigns wwith Molde, where he faced superior opposition and went into most games underdogs.
So basically he was shit at any club that wasn't at amateur level. Thanks for answering

His comment is pretty stupid considering no one knows the future + United hasn't won a title since Sir Alex retired and has been in steady decline since that time (I dare to say more). This will probably backfire on him just as Gaz's stupid United will win the league before Liverpool do comment. Both stink of arrogance and sense of entitlement if you ask me. Titles are won on the pitch by teams with top players that are lead well not at pressers
 
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Why do the Ole in fans always reduce the opposition argument to "want instant success?" Have you guys not ready any posts? The fans want to see attacking football. Klopp had Liverpool exciting from the very first week, and this has been a constant of his Liverpool side just like it was with Dortmund. Why on earth can't Ole do the same if he's the right manager? We're not asking for much. Show us the side is being coached properly that could make us believe in the project.
 
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