Saudi Takeover - Claim deal done
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Either I believe things will get better or I stay cynical and believe in you. I’m positive and open minded. You?
How does whether its public or not affect my point? I don't believe these people (assuming those involved are the same) are to be trusted so wouldn't be happy with the takeover if it happens.if it’s coming out then what’s the issue? Why even mention it if you aren’t going to say
They're going to turn Old Trafford into a mosque aren't they?
Sharia law will be imposed on Manchester.
Hasn't it been imposed already??
I used to think quite highly of you Sultan. Not anymore.
with the minaret popping straight out of the prawn sandwich executive boxes.
These regimes use sport to take attention and pressure away from the things that need to be reformed in their countries. Expecting that to then magically result in more reforms is wishful thinking. It hasn't happened it other instances and there's no apparent prospect of it happening here, which is why organisations like Amnesty decry rather than celebrate sport being used in this manner.
Being blank-minded is isn't the same as being open minded, nor is it cynical to root opinions in reality rather than fantasy.
I want the Glazer's out of the club just as much as the rest of you, but the Saudis (thanks @decorativeed) are out of the question for numerous reasons - the majority of which have been well-documented in this thread.
Both LVG and Jose were considerably well-backed in the transfer market. Had they spent that money wisely (players who were not only a good fit for their respective systems but the club in general) rather than throw it at the next available big-name target who were only motivated to join our club for the promise of a huge salary, this conversation would not be taking place. Look at Pep and City, they spent around £200 million more than United in the post-SAF years, peanuts in the grand scheme of things, yet the difference in overall squad ability is beyond comparison.
We have spent exorbitant sums of money building the squad we have today. The kind of money that the likes of Wolves, Leicester, Spurs and a multitude of football clubs across Europe could only dream of spending yet somehow have a comparable squad (or shamefully better in many cases) to our own.
The Glazers, parasites that they are, cannot be held accountable for the failings of their chairman and manager(s) in the transfer market.
Doc, personally I don't think any country should be allowed to purchase football clubs. Imagine being owned by any nation with right wing leadership. That said I suspect the vast majority won't care if there's 10 European Cups on the horizon and a state of the art Old Trafford.
Heh an Old Trafford designed in the style of a Bendouin tent could look funky. In er...Manchester.
Well I’m not sure what reports you read mate but I remember them spewing nonsense about shirt sales. They may have even started that myth.
Beckham for £25m May have been slightly underpriced but not by a lot and it certainly wasn’t peanuts in any context.
I also think the current administration would have no problem selling a 29 year old beckham as now like then it would have been the last chance to get good money for him.
£25m from 2003 in today’s transfer market is probably around £100m+. That sort of fee for an academy player who cost nothing and whose best years are behind him would be a tempting offer for the board. Especially if he wasn’t in the current managers plans.
Only if it has some Rusholme style shisha lounges with foot stools?
A state of the art Stadium, full every other week and a team that would compete with the best in Europe, would work wonders for supporters all over the world. Manchester would be inundated with tourists and it would do wonders for business people there.
And this is why politics and football should never mix.
Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of our finances, but if they only take out 20m a year, then surely we have money to splurge a lot more than we are in market.
Glazer's haven't changed their failing chairman. So they are responsible. It's their club, their decisions.
Also, do you think Pep just fell on the team he got? And also Pep just happened to be swayed to City by pot luck?
It is around 20m and since we spend around 330m on wages in 2019, we can't really spend a lot more than we currently do.
Yep. Everyone will have to take thier shoes off to come in, cover thier heads, no pork pies or beers, halal only. Also congregational prayers at half time, especially if we're losing.
The Christian players will be forced to play without wages and be whipped when they have bad games.
No, they didn't take £1B out. I would advise you not just read shitty, biased blog posts and actually look at the figures yourself. Therefore the equation you are referencing is imaginary and based on a poor understanding of corporate finance.
As for the revenues, this displays a poor understanding of basic accounting as there are costs involved in running a football club and any large company needs cash reserves. You can't just spend everything you make.
This is just a poorly thought-out post.
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I would imagine there are various degrees. E.g billionaires who don’t pay tax and exploit loopholes and workers rights (reprehensible) or billionaires that support systems of murdering homosexuals and abusing women (a whole different kind of evil). I’d rather have the former kind if I had to pick between the two.
Well I guess we will know tomorrow when the NY stock exchange opens if all of these rumours are true or if they are just that, rumours.
If they are true then hopefully we would be run by people who want success on the pitch because let’s be honest, united are a shambles from top to bottom if you look at the board, manager, players, scouting and the stadium are all well under par for a club that is supposed to be the biggest in the world.
Unfortunately city have shown the way to go with a clear plan on the pitch that doesn’t really change from manager to manager. They have great training facilities for players at all age groups and their recruitment is far far better than ours and that’s sadly not down to just money but also having a clear plan. If the Saudis could bring this then great. As for all the political views on here we can’t control who owns the club even with all of the moaning and protests I don’t think any owner will really care what a few people think when you consider the fan size of United.
Tomorrow we will hopefully know who owns the club, but sadly we will still be a shambles of what was a great and successful club.
If they are true then hopefully we would be run by people who want success on the pitch because let’s be honest, united are a shambles from top to bottom if you look at the board, manager, players, scouting and the stadium are all well under par for a club that is supposed to be the biggest in the world.
Unfortunately city have shown the way to go with a clear plan on the pitch that doesn’t really change from manager to manager. They have great training facilities for players at all age groups and their recruitment is far far better than ours and that’s sadly not down to just money but also having a clear plan. If the Saudis could bring this then great. As for all the political views on here we can’t control who owns the club even with all of the moaning and protests I don’t think any owner will really care what a few people think when you consider the fan size of United.
Tomorrow we will hopefully know who owns the club, but sadly we will still be a shambles of what was a great and successful club.
Great job shifting goalposts. At least you've stopped the ridiculous comparisons with Trump and US government.
Nothing to do with being brown and foreign. I’m just not a fan of Islam, it’s regressive, oppressive and damn right nasty at times when it’s mixed with government. No separation between religion and state is a bad idea.
Tomorrow, two months, next year,. The sooner the better that someone who is interested in football takes over this great club. The whole structure of this club needs to be upgraded from Youths to the Senior team. We need the right people involved from top to bottom, not Woody having the last say in everything. The stadium needs a lot of work also and i can't see the Glazers putting money into this in the foreseeable future.
It's 20 m in dividends plus ~ 50 odd in loan repayments I believe. Along with complete trust in their useless minion Woody and a massive wage bill, easy to see why we can't spend a bunch
Hope they do not sell to the Arabs, but as one poster has already said, 4 billion is an amount I don't think the Glazers would turn down, surely there objective to buy the club in first place was to make money.
I really don't know how I would feel if it was taken over by the Arabs, I suppose we would become successful on the pitch, but what goes with it is unacceptable in today's world, UTD would become another club with distaste toward it, ok I know we already have it, but that's because nobody likes how successful we were under SAF.
I really don't know how I would feel if it was taken over by the Arabs, I suppose we would become successful on the pitch, but what goes with it is unacceptable in today's world, UTD would become another club with distaste toward it, ok I know we already have it, but that's because nobody likes how successful we were under SAF.
This is not a given, regardless of whether a club has unlimited money or not. See PSG for example, could anyone call their period under Qatar ownership successful?
The problem with determining what the Glazers want to do is that they are not all equal, some don't care about sport and would have sold their shares a long time ago while two of them care about sport and likes football, the latters are allegedly not really interested in selling their shares.
Definaltey, what were PSG doing before the owners came in? They were irrelevant.
The good years of Colony Capital, one of the wealthiest fund in the world. One of the most inept owners that football has seen.
One Glazer presumably selling up, could possibly mean a couple more following suit.
Hated, Adored, Saudis never ignored.
Pogba would be made captain and would be given executioner powers
That's it? No more comments on the issue of Saudis taking over?
Glazer's have saddled an unbelievable amount of debt on this club with minimum expenditure of their own money. Having dividends paid out. Salaries to themselves. Crazy amount of interest payments in terms of the leveraged buyout. Shocking performances on the pitch since the great man left in 2013.
I'm pretty positive Saudis would change things around for the positive.
Again, I'm no expert in our wage structure, but I remember reading that even though we pay the highest in wages, our wage % compared to what we make is actually one of the lower in the league, so although yes, wages do take a chunk out of our earnings (which apparently get better as the years tick over), we should still be in a financial position to spend money.
I know we've spent quite a lot since Fergie has left, but we also didn't spend 'that much' while Fergie was here and the last two years especially, we've spent quite small in comparisons to other clubs.
As I said earlier, Villa spent 140m this year, thats around the same net spend we did in the last two years.
What I can agree on is, we have an idiot in charge by the name of Woodward who gets it wrong every time.
Do I want the Saudis in charge, no, but I also don't want the Glazers with their puppet Woodward here either.
Problem is, there really isn't another way out of this. (Again, that's not me saying I'd rather have the Saudis over the Glazers)
That is absolutely right. I think United are at 51%ish right now. Barcelona, for instance, is at 66%.
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