I think his point, like my own, would be his love running deeper than ownership? Not like we can choose owners, or we, United as a whole, is wanting this. If it happens it's because the Saudis wanted it to, and them owning the club wouldnt stop me loving the club for the reasons I hold. Though obviously there would always be a taint, but I have no interest in what they do outside of my club that I, myself, can not change.
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So finally one poster admits their objection is Islamaphobic. At least you are honest.
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They WILL sell but if it's based on a financial decline we are years away from that. Our finances are so strong that they will take years to stagnate talk less of even declining. Furthermore you could slash a quarter of our profits and we'd still be the most worthwhile and stable investment in all of sports.
But, if the stadium got improved, would you not call that a positive for Manchester United? Regardless who paid for it, would you not prefer to see Old Trafford get the treatment it deserves? Not saying it's a done deal, but if that was an actual consequence from the take over.
Jeez, I can't stand he fecking hypocrisy regarding this issue. I want this so much just to see the meltdown of so many drama queens. I think most of you preaching some morals regarding the saudis are more concerned what fans of Chelsea and City might give you as return rather than what is actually happening with the Saudis and how they run their country.
Who has been called out for their stupidity?
Exactly. This is a football matter, not a political one.
People being hand fed fear and blindly consuming it concerns me more but that’s just me.
The 'news leak' about the takeover is intentional I believe because the board did not expect things to go south so quickly.
This will give some weight to any spendings that are made in January.
The Saudis will not be wanting to take a club that just went into the Championships.
The board will pay over the price, just to get some players in to plug the holes left by what happened in the summer.
This will give some weight to any spendings that are made in January.
The Saudis will not be wanting to take a club that just went into the Championships.
The board will pay over the price, just to get some players in to plug the holes left by what happened in the summer.
Couldn’t agree more. If it was a political matter opposition to slaughter of innocent people would be taken on a case by case basis, especially in the U.S.
Talk about hand feeding people fear
Who would want to be owned by a state that kills people for converting from Islam?
Cannot see the Glazer's selling, Utd is a earning machine that they bought on tick that they service though the clubs own income. It would take absolutely insane money for them to sell, whilst they would also want another asset to buy that gives them similar returns. A club more likely to be sold is Chelsea, Abramovich cannot get in the country anymore and his net wealth hasn't really grown in close to a decade as he had to sell his main asset to Putin when he decided that Russia had been screwed over by the oligarchs and he wanted the energy industries back. Further, unlike most oligarchs he is highly liquid in order to protect his wealth from further demands from the Russian state.
Stop over romanticising stuff. We're just another big football club in the grand scheme of things.
Think they're best buds with UAE, they're genocidal partners in the Yemen debacle. Qatar on the other hand...
Also, MBS has already denied wanting the club. Until it's proven that MBS wants United, we have to presume it's a Saudi businessman. So if people are going to attribute every Saudi with the crimes of the government, than should we not do the same with an American and its government?!
Romance is the essence of Manchester United.
Saudi's do romance too!
Do you live in one of those countries?Talk about hand feeding people fear
Who would want to be owned by a state that kills people for converting from Islam?
Yes, I live in Saudi Arabia.
I may be wrong but can't remember any country opposing the atrocities in Yemen. Essentially the entire world is complicit.
There is a fierce rivalry between SA and the UAE over Yemen. There will always be something between them since they share a border.
I'm no expert on the subject, admittedly, it's just stuff you hear on the news.
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This is worth a read.
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/i...-arabia-and-uaes-dangerous-rivalry-over-yemen
So its 39 pages now. Would anyone be kind enough to tell me if there has been anymore development on this apart from a weird LinkedIn post and an arrogant Saudi tweet.
I don’t like the term Islamaphobic. A lot of phobias have no basis in reality. Being skeptical about aspects of Islam and the dangers it poses to the freedom of both its followers and the global population is not a phobia.
I think you're confusing UAE with Iran.
Saudi Arabia and UAE are the main coalition partners in the Yemen 'war', whereas Iran are being accused of assisting the Yemeni rebels that the Saudi-UAE coalition is fighting.
Follow the link in my first reply as it will give a far more descriptive account of the situation than I ever could.
No not really. However I don't think there's any doubt any longer that they'd quite like to buy the club. Supposedly already made a few bids, latest coming in 2018.
Glazers been here 15 years. I think they see their end game and big profit sell price coming.
Thought I'd find Mr Pigeon on there, chief.
Twitter post is like one page. Fill the rest with virtue signaling, moral high ground & whaboutism
There you go
Hold on, are you suggesting the only reason people would be against Saudi ownership is Islamaphobia?
[selfish]I've not been to a home game for years so it wouldn't affect me either way[/selfish]
The issue is do they have the appetite for another rebuild or the skill to bring in the correct people that ensure it succeeds? At the moment they look like they are interested in letting Woodward and Judge have their way and ruin us further. Every season this happens the deeper we are in the rut and the more difficult it becomes to claw our way out.
Man, watching the advert on Sky, Kings of England V Champions of Europe...depressing. So much negligence in our fall from grace. I'm quite sure the Saudi owners will bring us back to the pinnacle of the game.
How did Nigeria make it to that list?Talk about hand feeding people fear
Who would want to be owned by a state that kills people for converting from Islam?
One thing that is sure in Nigeria is freedom of religion. It is a secular nation in all sense of it.
In cases such as Nigeria and Malaysia, those laws are on a state/region level:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia_in_Nigeria#Blasphemy_and_apostasy
No. I'm suggesting that some people are against Saudi ownership because of their Islamaphobia. The poster whom I wrote this message for stated that:
Pretty clear he is against any Muslim organisation or nation owning our club. Or make of it what you will. And I've nothing against him having his opinion. That's his right.
I am suggesting he speaks for a few more, though they may express their views less directly. And it's my right to believe that these types of opinion are driven by Islamaphobia.
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Then how did you come to know of the genocide.
I am from Nigeria and live in one of those states, those where political propaganda back in early 2000s, currently it is really not practiced by law. Nobody has been killed for renouncing any religion, though persecution from family and society is an issue.
Don't believe everything's you read on the internet.
Well you don't really get to decide that. How others interpret what you say is the only thing that matters.
Which is why I find UK or US posters criticising only the Saudi's for Yemen hypocritical.
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