Most of the goals scored in football are usually due to someone fecking up.
If you don’t understand why Ole is a gamble worth taking… you’re doing football support wrong
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Where did I say it wasn't 1-1?
Agreed. Put Pogba and Scott in and we beat most teams. We've scored 15 in the last 6 so there's no point in pretending the attack isn't improving under Ole.
I'm generally disgusted by the attitude of many people on here.
You said the result was the possession stat. Weird
They wont be at the club next season.
Got a reply by PM which was equally as long winded as his original post.
To sum up for those interested it’s because ”Fergie”.
Because of Fergie & Gill we left a vacuum so now we have to drop to midtable in a full rebuild of the club. This obviously flies in the face of all logic and common sense especially when the person you are betting everything on (reputation of club, long term damage to the squad, ability to attract talent etc) has no previous al la Klopp or Pep that shows he is up to the job. There is literally zero evidence to show the Solksjaer can do this job.
I mean, I’d absolutely buy into the idea signing Pep or Klopp and saying ”2 years and we might drop to midtable, but TRUST ME, it will be worth it”.
This does however promt at least 1 important question, would the poster @WorksforTrystero have granted Moyes the time he wants to grant Ole?
What? He called it a home draw, which it was.
The bold part sums you up to perfection. You know damn well he didn't have licence to sign players last January as a caretaker. Shamefully biased. It's pathetic.
I bet if we looked at this place last season, and the season before that people said the same. You can't guarantee anyone will leave, we always find a way to keep hold of players. Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if one or both were here next season.
Fair. I very much doubt if they will play if kept. Ole has phased out young for an academy kid.
Anyone with half a fecking brain? It was about as subtle as a brick to the head.
But Ole should be able to do it more quickly than the best two managers in the world or he should be sacked.
What i really dont understand is all the crap Ole gets for signing a new contract with Mata. Surely that was put down to back up player, role model professional with a bag of experience and teacher of kids. Infact, i think he is very important for this project to succeed. And it will.
Why do you think they were sold?
Was it because we, the fans, were booing their names in the stadium and insulting them on the internet?
I accept my position as a supporter. I'm not CEO, I'm not player, I'm not manager. I don't have any real say or choice. I just try and support. And I enjoy it
It's not, for reasons stated by others.
It's an absolutely dreadful post.
Jesus, we can't even praise posts now without being corrected. How desperate are you to control the narrative?
What a sad, sad post. I don’t know how someone can read that article and not get it. Simply disregard it as delusion. What an agenda.
Definitely not doing football support correctly.
Ole's had a year and we've gone from 6th to 9th. I'm disappointed.
I wish he was good. I want us to challenge on a domestic and European front. I actually like Ole as a guy, but we are better than this.
And you know that how?
I'm not talking about 100m pound players, but utility players, for couple of millions or even loans?
wanna bet? Who is going to take them?
You like him? I shudder to think what you would write if you didn't like him.
I do and I think my view on it is perfectly illustrated by responses like yours. The piece is pretentious propaganda. It reminds me a lot of Newspeak. A touch of delusion, emphasis on painting any dissonance in the ranks as a rotten egg in The Party.
The irony for me is, there was actually this sweet poetic feel about Uniteds most famous substitute coming in and also being one of our most memorable and uplifting interim managers. The story and the fairy tale dreaming should have ended there.
Ole isn't as proven as those two and frankly speaking should never have got the job on a permanent basis. Expecting him us to drag us down into midtable and then miraculously reemerge as a PL challenging European Champion is is based on nothing than hope. His current record is uninspiring, we are not really playing well and he hasn't done anything remotely close to achieving what this club demands.
Why would he reply to your question by PM? That's weird. He knows his sanctimonious argument is full of holes I suspect.
You are happy to assert he had the ability to sign player in that window though. I literally think your the only person on the whole forum to suggest that. Even most of the Ole out brigade have more sense. Your just a bit more toxic though so you will make wild assumptions to try and strengthen your points.
What on Earth is going on?! This is worse than the Top Red sh*t we see in here.
In a way it reminds me a lot of the back and forth arguments I hear from my in laws and relatives that still live in and adore Russia. Comparing to how senseless and awful and full of terror the rest of the world is. But in their own borders, communism is a ray of light. Oh sure it's not perfect but we have to support it because the alternative is so sad and no way to live.
Ok, so that we're clear. He needs to do it more quickly than the best two managers in the world or he should be sacked. Because he doesn't have as good a CV he needs to be better than the best. Or sacked. Logic fails on here are honestly staggering.
Didn't realise football was supposed to be so emotional and sentimental... I thought it was about watching grown man kick an inflated ball across the pitch and hoping my team wins. Ah well, to each their own.
The problem with Ole is the long term damage his reign could bring Steve, we’re not saying Pep or Klopp would take 2 years as they wouldn’t. I’m simply saying that giving the wrong manager time could be a horrific decision. Surely you understand that at least?
Nar, in fairness his post count was up for the day.
Hold on, you said that you are dead certain that he had no ability to sign and now you come with this?
What is the source that you have that Ole had no say during the January transfer window and couldn't sign players?
You are the one making wild assumptions at the moment.
Am I the only one that finds it ridiculously arrogant for someone to tell others that they’re supporting the club they love the wrong way? This OP is a prime example of the arrogance and delusion of those in full support where the club is currently going on the football pitch.
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I have never said that you are a rotten egg!
'Pretentious propaganda' ok we could fire Ole and hire the most successful manager who is currently available! We tried that already and the fact is that it didn't work out. fact not 'Pretentious propaganda'. Personally, I think that this failed due to lack of backing form above BUT the above has not changed and until it does no manager will come in and turn things round quickly. Therefore, we may as well have someone that understands the club and is willing to sign, build, bring though talent for the future.
As for nostalgia, I can't see the point in following a football club if you just forget about the history.
We have a lot of sheep that cannot think for themselves.
What on Earth is going on?! This is worse than the Top Red sh*t we see in here.
In a way it reminds me a lot of the back and forth arguments I hear from my in laws and relatives that still live in and adore Russia. Comparing to how senseless and awful and full of terror the rest of the world is. But in their own borders, communism is a ray of light. Oh sure it's not perfect but we have to support it because the alternative is so sad and no way to love.
It's the popular put down of the day, that they have just read in the OP propaganda article, so now they are going to parrot it endlessly to make them appear smart and superior of course.
Depends on what you are gambling on, are you shoving a bet on this afternoon races or are you investing in shares for a great long term future and growth?
This is brilliant! Sums up the other side nicely
This is brilliant! Sums up the other side nicely
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You are everything wrong with the Ole-in crowd.
"Ole's way more amazing than you guys think, results are meaningless, performances don't matter, if you can't see the wonderful work he's doing you are stupid, now excuse me whilst I go sip my green tea and bend over so the club can defile me whilst I watch the 93/94 season video in a furious spout of arousal. Good day sir, I said, good day!".