But there's no tactical influence from the manager, he makes weird decisions in every game, be it subs or formations. He's just not having a positive influence at all.
Solskjær sack watch | 2019/20 edition
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Woodward's fecked himself (as usual) by blathering on about 'cultural reboot' and 'faith in Ole's vision'. Just goes to show he has a terrible judgement in managers and makes himself look even more stupid than normal when he has to sack him.
What we need is to bring in another manager so that he can turn Fred and Andreas into Scholes and Carrick, and Luke Shaw into Ole. That'll do the trick.
Gets a free pass by his the journos just as Moyes did.
This all day
Hey, at least it's not toxic around the club anymore and he's not throwing the players under the bus.
In the last few days we've seen Tottenham Arsenal and Watford all sack their managers for not being good enough.
Silva at Everton will also surely be sacked in the next few days.
Ole has been as bad as all of those managers.
Silva at Everton will also surely be sacked in the next few days.
Ole has been as bad as all of those managers.
How will it look after 250 games? Only then can we judge.
Entitled fans.
I was very much neutral in this debate about getting Ole fired. At this point, we have to get rid of him.
The only thing is that this might bring uncertainty. If Poch isn't available till the end of the season? So be it. Get another caretaker with poch quietly conformed.
Ole isn’t the man for us. This clear to the naked. Unless you’re trippin’ on some cool aid.
The only thing is that this might bring uncertainty. If Poch isn't available till the end of the season? So be it. Get another caretaker with poch quietly conformed.
Ole isn’t the man for us. This clear to the naked. Unless you’re trippin’ on some cool aid.
He can do that without formally joining the club.
Considering how crap he is 25% is actually overachieving.
In those 23 games how many defeats?
I bet it's a lot more than victories.
I bet it's a lot more than victories.
We are in deep trouble. I love Ole, but this is getting embarrassing again.
Everything just feels and sounds right about Poch managing Manchester United. It fits.
Moyes was never United material. Nothing ever said, other than a Scot and being of similar age to Fergie when he took over, that he was the right fit. LVG was a fanciful choice and one who you always felt his best days had passed. Mourinho was the ‘we have to give him a go’ choice but it soon became clear his heart wasn’t really in it.
Solskjaer landed the permanent job in ridiculous circumstances. It was as clear as day that he was keeping the seat warm for Pochettino but a freakish run of results gets him the job.
If we do appoint Pochettino you sense it would be the first proper appointment since Fergie left. We will live to regret this massively if we lose out on him.
Moyes was never United material. Nothing ever said, other than a Scot and being of similar age to Fergie when he took over, that he was the right fit. LVG was a fanciful choice and one who you always felt his best days had passed. Mourinho was the ‘we have to give him a go’ choice but it soon became clear his heart wasn’t really in it.
Solskjaer landed the permanent job in ridiculous circumstances. It was as clear as day that he was keeping the seat warm for Pochettino but a freakish run of results gets him the job.
If we do appoint Pochettino you sense it would be the first proper appointment since Fergie left. We will live to regret this massively if we lose out on him.
We can not be sure Poch won't be appointed by another club until summer. PSG, Bayern maybe even Juve might approach him and if they do before us, all of them are better options than us.
The manager and the players gets what working for man United is all about
Any club in the top four divisions of English football would find this type of form worrying and would seriously consider their options.
Yet we’re one of the biggest clubs in the world and there’s a sizeable portion of the fan base that are completely fine with this. Just because one guy had a rocky period once before dominating football doesn’t mean EVERY guy does it. That one guy just happened to be one of the GOATs of football management and had already pulled off some pretty epic things before he even set foot in Old Trafford.
Are fans literally taking Sir Alexs “Your job is to stand by the manager“ speech as absolute gospel? Especially now we have a Sir Alex disciple as manager? Are fans just trying to score top red points because during the time of having a godlike manager everyone else was sacking managers left and right, and therefore we are more special than them because we stuck with him, but he was a godlike manager anyway?
Its insane to me. Is some Manchester United deity in the sky going to smite them for daring to say a manager who was an ex player isn’t good?
Yet we’re one of the biggest clubs in the world and there’s a sizeable portion of the fan base that are completely fine with this. Just because one guy had a rocky period once before dominating football doesn’t mean EVERY guy does it. That one guy just happened to be one of the GOATs of football management and had already pulled off some pretty epic things before he even set foot in Old Trafford.
Are fans literally taking Sir Alexs “Your job is to stand by the manager“ speech as absolute gospel? Especially now we have a Sir Alex disciple as manager? Are fans just trying to score top red points because during the time of having a godlike manager everyone else was sacking managers left and right, and therefore we are more special than them because we stuck with him, but he was a godlike manager anyway?
Its insane to me. Is some Manchester United deity in the sky going to smite them for daring to say a manager who was an ex player isn’t good?
If only there were existing Ole threads to post in.
I mean, that is essentially the purpose of a manager. So, yeah!
The alternative is just not bothering to have one at all because, eh what’s the point? Let the fans pick the team via Twitter poll and chalk every loss up to them.
Woodward has done it again. Only this time he's made a real mess of it and has to sack a club legend.
Woodward for Strange ways.
Woodward for Strange ways.
Mid-table/relegation form
Totally unacceptable
Totally unacceptable
He needs another 3 years (lingard's years not the normal years)
I dislike Rodgers persona, but he did well with Swansea, he would have the PL league once if Gerrard hadn't slipped. I think he did alright in the scottish league. He's now performing very well with Leicester. Certainly has more pedigree than Ole. I'd prefer Poch, but he's coming off his worst season ever. I'm tired of us hiring managers not coming of a succesfull season.
Shameless Showbiz Brendan™Joseunited said:
Sorry for my intrusion
“Ole, what style of football are you even trying to implement here?”
Ole’s first real test
Ole’s first real test
Sack him off. Legend of a player, complete and utter fraud of a manager.
Any self-respecting big club would be in a meeting room with Ole right now, telling him that he has permission to respectfully resign, and possibly receive a gentlemanly payoff (albeit not a huge one), to walk away with dignity. If he isnt willing to do that, out of love fora big payday the club , then he will be fired promptly on the spot and the story presented first thing in the morning.
Ole, stop tarnishing your legacy and managerial reputation and please walk with dignity. You will be thanked for 'giving it a go' and we'll all wish you well wherever you get employed.
Any self-respecting big club would be in a meeting room with Ole right now, telling him that he has permission to respectfully resign, and possibly receive a gentlemanly payoff (albeit not a huge one), to walk away with dignity. If he isnt willing to do that, out of love for
Ole, stop tarnishing your legacy and managerial reputation and please walk with dignity. You will be thanked for 'giving it a go' and we'll all wish you well wherever you get employed.
14 games in and only 4 wins is a disgrace for a club of our stature. Mix in Oles record after being appointented permanent manager last season you get worse stats - poch is free agent, go get him.
So what we need is a manager with magical powers? Why didn't I think of that?
I don't think Ole is 'the answer' long term, but how many more times do you need for us to declare a manager shit before you realise the issues go beyond them? We've got Andreas and Fred as our midfield two for christ sake. We've got a fullback with a handful of games being first choice, we expect a 22 year old to to be the experienced player we turn to, and when we need options from the bench we have to bring on Lingard, a barely fit defensive LB and an 18 year old to try and change the course of the game. The team is not good enough to be where some delusional fans think we should be at. Accept it.
He is seemingly out of his depth here, but if he goes, Woodward should go with him
So we should just shrug our shoulders and accept 4 league wins all season? 6 league wins out of the last 23 games?
Nobody is saying we should be up there challenging Liverpool for the title.
We certainly shouldn't be fecking 9th in December and getting outplayed for large sections of the game by the likes of Sheffield Utd and Aston Villa.
100 percent. Ole is utterly out of his depth, but so is the asshole who appointed him and he shouldn't be able to get away with it.
You’ve some kneck calling others delusional and to accept it, when you genuinely believe that we’re not good enough to beat Villa at home, Newcastle, Palace, Sheffield United, West Ham.
How many wins are we going to end the season with, with this rate ? 4 out of 14, I bet it won't be anything more than 14 or 15 wins.
It's the managers that builds the squad though.
Can't believe I actually want Brendan Rodgers