How many times has he said Get Brexit Done, fecking hell. How many years have the Tories had to get "Brexit done!"
The best bit is when he makes out that Labour would hold things up, as if they haven't fecked it up from the very beginning and ever since.How many times has he said Get Brexit Done, fecking hell. How many years have the Tories had to get "Brexit done!"
All of that is fair, the thing is however yeh alternative is a Tory government which has been proven to be pure evil so even if Corbyn can’t deliver at least he’s trying and believes in the right things.If you believe in Corbyn's agenda or believe in a Corbyn-led government, then you've got to hold some sort of hope that there's a general decency to the public and that they're willing to elect someone who wants to alleviate poverty and reduce inequality. Otherwise there's not really any point.
Broadly speaking, a lot of Corbyn's policies are popular. People want to see the NHS properly maintained and value it. In many cases they're broadly in favour of public spending and like the idea of, say, nationalised broadband. But people liking those policies and actually being sold on someone being able to implement them in a way which will work for the country is another matter. A lot of people just don't seem to buy Corbyn as someone who will improve the country, and at this point his arguments feel like they're presented in a way that's fairly repetitive and unimaginative. I dunno, there just seems to be a lot less enthusiasm to him compared to 2017.
I don't think the argument is that Corbyn isn't trying, or doesn't believe in the right things. But a (the?) major part of his job is to win over the public and win elections so that he can enact his party's agenda. He's completely failed at that.All of that is fair, the thing is however yeh alternative is a Tory government which has been proven to be pure evil so even if Corbyn can’t deliver at least he’s trying and believes in the right things.
Get Brexit Done.Nick Robinson has been shit. He’s just letting them both waffle without pressing them on the issues and questions at hand.
Far right politics are all about their slogans.Get Brexit Done
When nothing new is ever really said, I don't see how it could ever sway anyone. When you've seen one, you've seen them all, especially when it comes to Boris Brexit speech. His closing statement was nearly exactly the same as his opening one for christ sake.Is anyone at all swayed by these sort of debates? Seems to be a total waste of time.
Same.Feel like such a mug that I keep watching these "debates". Boris saying the same shite, and idiots in the audience still eating it up, he's a genius in a way.
There's no hope when the very people about to get bent over can't even see that their pants are being pulled down. They deserve it.It's the hope that kills you @CassiusClaymore
Well you say that but they actually moved the debate from Southampton to Maidstone for precisely that reason.Same.
Or he's picking the same audience each time!
It’s not even about playing dirty. He just needs to call the bullshit and say well that’s a lie here are the facts. feck being polite. I can’t see how that fecking “so called debate” which was just a collection of shitty soundbites we have heard for weeks now garnered any support for Labour. The only fecking plus side to this is that it will be fecking over in less than a week. Final push and then feck it whatever happens.This is why politics is full of oxbridge debate school types to be fair. Corbyn is good at pushing his own message but he's not a great at debating.
It's frustrating even as someone who backs him that he's unwilling to play dirty in the way Boris is doing with constant lies.
All he needed to do was abandon decorum and call him a liar on any one of (at least) 5 clear liesFFS Corbyn was pathetic. People don't respond to him. They needed him to savage Boris and he failed miserably.
To make matters worse, Boris even made a joke about lying and yet Corbyn can't even provide a killer blow despite Boris fecking up.Labour had an open goal and they fecked it up. Corbyn fecked it up. This was it - the absolute last opportunity to hold Boris to account for all the lies and push the narrative about him being untrustworthy and he didn't do it. And now we're getting another five years of Tory rule. Well done.
fecking caravan won't be big enough to fit all the people who are disappointed in a week's time.
That’s what hurts. 4 words;Labour had an open goal and they fecked it up. Corbyn fecked it up. This was it - the absolute last opportunity to hold Boris to account for all the lies and push the narrative about him being untrustworthy and he didn't do it. And now we're getting another five years of Tory rule. Well done.
fecking caravan won't be big enough to fit all the people who are disappointed in a week's time.
He’d be a great PM. Terrible campaigner.Surely there's no one who doesn't think Corbyn should be out for definite now if he doesn't win this election?
I mean, come on.
He’s too old, he’ll be gone. He looks tired. Fair play to him though, his term when he get re-elected will take him to over 40 years as an MP in one constituency.Surely there's no one who doesn't think Corbyn should be out for definite now if he doesn't win this election?
I mean, come on.
Really. Didn't know that!Well you say that but they actually moved the debate from Southampton to Maidstone for precisely that reason.