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UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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Unless he or she turns out to be sympathetic with the Palestinians.
We've literally got an example of a left-wing leader being anti-Semitic two posts above yours, but okay.
Doesn't mean too much unless you break down why people don't like the leadership in some way. Their competence, policies, mannerisms, beards etc. No likes stupid beards though, it's probably that.
To be fair, Mélenchon is an absolute moron.
Completely disagree with you there. If they want to stay in power they will have the Sun, Express and Mail convince their supporters that they have been looking after them.
Not really, and even if Labour had won it would be the same, if you're poor you are poor, under whatever Government.
Jeremy Corbyn and the baggage he carries with him have done for Labour, it isn't just Brexit that made life long Labour voters switch to the Tories. If you are poor you need practical help, not promises to spend billions renationalising everything, and offering free broadband is almost as bad as the "if they don't have bread let them eat cake" quote. The hard left politicos have never really understood the true aspirations of people they were supposedly helping with their ideas of building a perfect Socialist State, this was true almost a hundred years ago, and is still true today.
Or that the new opposition leader is in fact Karl Marx.
Ken Livingstone?
In that case I'll apologise.
Internal migration, within the EU, has no doubt contributed and is continuing to contribute to the rising problems of extreme nationalism in Europe ( for which read xenophobes and serious racism ) althoughI I've always thought that despite most peoples' perception, the UK has handled the influx much, much better than a lot of other EU member countries because there just haven't been the problems of unemployment there the past 10 years or so compared to most other EU member countries.
But then again, immigration is an equally touchy subject in virtually every continent, not just inside the EU, and it has become an even more difficult subject to debate because for years it was the elephant in the room which nobody wanted to talk about for fear of being ' labeled ' and which I will put down to being yet another failure of the political classes to understand or to listen to what and how their citizens want their countries to be rather than what and how the politicians think those same countries should be.
Well, if in any way accurate, it does show all the use of excuses are nonsense though. Not that I think they completely are, brexit is clearly a huge reason, but people have also clearly underestimated just how unpopular Corbyn really is.
Savage attacks on Corbyn from centrist, anti- momentum Labour MP's who retained their seats
Here is Wes Streeting. Also gave similar on BBC interview this afternoon
Here is Wes Streeting. Also gave similar on BBC interview this afternoon
Thought he came across as a self important wanker in the bbc interview.
Corbynite.
Only those blinded by Jeremy's cosmic light and the chants of 'ooh Jeremy' etc. Everybody else could see the Emperor had no clothes on!
Teehee
Yeah. And brexit might not have featured so highly as a reason if Corbyn and McDonnell hadn't handled it in such an incompetent and dishonest manner.
Sounds like he wants to roll even further left.
Not even subtle, saw the last couple of days of the SUN the entire front page is literally vote Tory for Sunlit uplands, vote Labour for gloom.
Burn it all to the fecking ground
Am hearing loads of Labour Remain voters also deserted the party last night. Would be interesting to find out how many.
Given that loads of people who'd have benefitted greatly under Corbyn voted against him, I feel abit duped that I voted for Corbyn in their interest, despite being against my own self interest in that I'd lose out financially through income and inheritance tax. I doubt I'll ever do that again.
I'll be OK in a post Brexit world, and now I don't give 2 hoots about anyone who isn't. And I wont entertain these sanctimonious views again either!
Streeting nailed it.
Well he representative of the 175 Labour MPs in PLP who wanted Corbyn out (vs the 45 MPs who wanted him as leader). He is representative of the real Labour party, and not the rabble that Momentum put together. He won his Labour seat in a pro leave area despite the handicap of Corbyn!!! I'd say he is a very important member of the Labour Party from now on.
Time for you and others to adjust your views, else you'll remain utterly despondent for a long time.
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What % these migrants will be NHS workers? Even if it’s 10%, 180,000 new employees to cover 1,620,000 new migrant patients plus the ever increasing population on top of this. This is clearly going to have a strain on resources.
on.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ffers-give-statements-to-antisemitism-inquiry
This is extremely worrying and needs to be dealt with. Votes are lost due to crap like this.
This is extremely worrying and needs to be dealt with. Votes are lost due to crap like this.
Probably because it was a load of rubbish in the first place?
You should read some of my other posts today. We are in agreement.
That being said though, he did not come across well at all. He didn’t sound like he was speaking with candour at all. It sounded opportunistic and self serving.
Ditto.
I'm not about to slag everyone off though and cry out about how the whole country should suffer. I find it incredibly hypocritical to claim to support the party of the people then turn on those people when the votes don't come in.
Am I pissed off the turkeys voted for christmas? You bet I am. But I'm just as angry about a Labour party who has let us all down and essentially played a huge role in fecking this country over the past 10 years or so. feck them and feck this tactical shit.
Explain?
Melenchon in France, but Livingstone can count too if he's relevant enough.
Really am beginning to think that Corbyn is so unpopular because he’s actually a decent man who tries to help people, while your average Englishman is just a horrible bastard which is why that lying bigot Johnson is so popular. Honestly can see no other reason why you would vote Tory. Your NHS is finished.
"In the psychology of human behaviour, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth."
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Cummings should be the next Bond Villain.*cough*
This.
He's a bit wrong though... Don't get me wrong, Corbyn needs gone, but it's not the policies; it's the baggage around him.
And frankly, to stand there and try and absolve himself and all the centrists of blame when they spent years trying their own character assassinations of Corbyn which contributed to the swirling morass of negativity around him is pretty shit.
In short, Wes Streeting can feck off if he won't look inward and own a bit of this.
Firstly, as a CEO of one company and a non-Exec director of another, that bit about business is rubbish. Cash is king. Never commit more outlay than the minimum required to secure income in the first place.
Secondly, it’s a bad analogy anyway because those people came over a long period of time. It was perfectly possible to increase capacity as they were arriving.
Not to mention the absurdity of the suggestion in political terms. Build loads of spare houses and train unneeded doctors so we can ramp up immigration in a few years time? Be serious.
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