Ole Gunnar Solskjær | 2021/22 Discussion

[DickDastardly]

Our style of play or should i say the only style of play Ole knows is to hit teams on the counter using the pace upfront. That's not enough because we will play such sides maybe 8 times a year only.

Which is sad by itself.

I mean yes by all means, make a style, but ffs, you can't honestly think that counter attack is the only way to play!

This is where it's most apparent that Ole is, unfortunately for all, out of his depth, by a long shot.

There are Klopps and Fergusons out there....managers with a clear vision on how they want their teams to play.

We need to identify them and hire them like we did 30 odd years ago.

 

[Eriku]

Well today, one of his signings got taken off, one gave a penalty away and the other does not look the picture of defensive stability.

James got subbed, and that’s damning? Come on, James has been of our best players this season, you’re reaching with that one.

And yeah, Wan-Bissaka’s tackle was stupid. Shit happens. Maguire did alright, all things considered. It’s hard to look good for a team that’s struggling and giving the ball away for fun.

 

[Andycoleno9]

He had 12 months. He did nothing regarding general play. He is not option who can lift us on top. You can give him 800mil euros and 5 years and he will struggle to get top4.
He is just average manager. Every day with him is ruining our chances to get something next year.

 

[RD76]

I don’t care what people say. 30 points in 25 league gsmes is not enough.
We still can’t see any style of play being implemented either.

Him and his team are coaching counter attacking football, which works against team who want to play. He has no idea what to do against teams who don't need to, so we've become predictable and easy to play against. Will we win trophies playing they way? Possibly a cup, but we'll never challenge in the league.

I can't see any real progress being made. He's got to go.

 

[TMDaines]

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Not sure if just blindly backing De Gea when you have Romero on the bench is the right call. De Gea could well cost him both his job and another top four chase.

David Moyes lost 15 times as permanent manager after 53 games. Ole’s has lost 15 after 36.

That’s a cracking stat if true.

 

[Ancient Of Days]

He should really after that punish a player or two. Lingarrd now should be dropped from the team sheet with the view to selling him in January. I dont think he has control. No way would Ferguson tolerate Lingards off the field antics. He would have been sold years ago.

I remember a reporter once said that Ferguson was so ruthless he was like Stalin. Ole does not have that. Those players should be frightened as feck playing for this club. Evra once said that on the bus journey back from winning the CL against Chelsea, Ferguson was telling the players on the coach that if they did not keep up the standards, he would get rid of them fairly fast.

Contrast that to some players saying they want to keep Ole. It should be the other way around. Under no circumstances should the players be telling the board what manager to keep and what not.

It is painful and above all else sad to see how far we have fallen.

Yep, I said it a while back back but he's the jolly walk over substitute teacher that all the students love and beg the princle to keep because they can get away with failing and not be disciplined.

Players like periera and Lingard on top wages and regular starters for Manchester United. Roy Keane would have headbutted both of them if he saw them driving around in Bentleys and acting the billy big bollocks after achieving feck all at the club.

Wound me up when Periera was getting interviewed post match as if he was an important spokesperson for the team.

 

[AaronRedDevil]

David Moyes lost 15 times as permanent manager after 53 games. Ole’s has lost 15 after 36.

Ole didnt have leaders and players with brains. Players like Vidic rio evra Rooney and rvp. Crap comparison.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Considering the deficiencies in the squad I’m not convinced the jury’s in on that. That’s not me saying I’m sure he’s good enough, but for now I’m Ole in.



Have you seen us post-Fergie? We’ve spent plenty of money on duds. His signings at least seem to want to fight.





Sure, if you analyse things in a vacuum. We’ve got better players, but we also face teams looking to make a name for themselves by taking our scalp, week in week out. Sheffield United don’t meet teams that treat games against them as a cup final. The mental aspect of playing for a side of us is all too often neverminded.



If they’re in a squad that is struggling to function and short on leaders, it’s harder to assess the signings. Calling them garbage is definitely overkill.

All good points.

 

[Bojan11]

Ole didnt have leaders and players with brains. Players like Vidic rio evra Rooney and rvp. Crap comparison.

To be fair it’s not stupid to say Moyes is a better manager than OGS. Career wise Moyes has done more and no doubt he would have won the league with Molde too.

 

[Eriku]

Ole didnt have leaders and players with brains. Players like Vidic rio evra Rooney and rvp. Crap comparison.

And yet it keeps coming up. Either people only want to win the argument, or they have no idea how to consider the context and nuances of a situation.

 

[Giggsyking]

I predicted a defeat before the game so i'm not surprised at all. These players are pathetic away from home against any team that is up for it.

OMG, I cant comprehend how people still find excuses for him.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Worst manager in our recent history. Please sack him. I'm sick of this current United era. We're pathetic.

 

[Skills]

Giving Moyes the job was the equivalent of giving a truck driver, the seat at scuderia ferrari. Giving Ole the job, is like giving the same job to someone who's only ever ridden a donkey.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

People said Ole only struggle with team that defend deep. Watford didn't sit deep at all. In fact, they played better than us and keep attacking us. They dominated the game. They don't have better player but their set up and tactics were much better.

We can go down to Watford but not for without fight and being clueless entire match!

 

[Jacob]

Oh FFS never get tired of excuses, we are fecking rubbish. We are losing to the worst team in the league.

I'm not blind mate. De Gea dropping the ball is nobody's fault but his. The rest is pretty much on Ole.

 

[McGrathsipan]

What did he have to say about this then ?
He's doing fantastically well..... to have held his job

 

[Giggsyking]

So let's just do nothing. Good plan. There's no manager in the world out there who could do a better job than Ole.

Are you serious?

This, why do people think Ole deserve a chance, what other than relegating Cardiff did he do in the premier league?

 

[LARulz]

Has he gone yet? What's he said in his interview - we were unlucky and should have at least got something?

 

[IrishRedDevil]

Gormless.

Can’t even listen to him talk at the minute.

 

[Hugh Jass]

The culture of the club is toxic. At least ole sees that. I would question players like obviously Lingard who laughs in our faces with his clothing range, but also Martial. I dont think he can do it 50 games a season.

At least pogba is back. Hopefully we play him in the false ten position instead of lingard.

It is frustrating as hell but i would still back ole. I would put it like this i would rather see lingarrd and mata gone before ole. If we sack ole, which we could, and lingard survives, i will be astonished.

Like i say the culture is toxic. You have players that think they are famous and love it.

 

[VP89]

Ole didnt have leaders and players with brains. Players like Vidic rio evra Rooney and rvp. Crap comparison.

In fairness, that's still a terrible return for Ole. To manage it in so many less games.

 

[JK-27]

Says a lot when an our Utd board have been 'looking' for a Director of Football for 18 months with no success, appointed Ole as a 'temporary' manager while they looked for someone permanent, failed at that so gave Ole the job permanently, yet an experienced Champions League, League, and Cup winning manager like Ancelotti can be signed by Everton within hours, and Pochettino is in Saudi Arabia smoking a shisha waiting for his phone to ring while we lose to the worst team in the league.

Woodward out, Ole out.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

In fairness, that's still a terrible return for Ole. To manage it in so many less games.

Also we play in the Europa league rather than CL.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

His big error was playing such a strong team midweek. Performance was flat and they were losing 50/50s all over the pitch.

 

[Heinzesight]

The talent is there and the squad needs improving and I am Ole In but he needs to seriously work hard on the mental fragility of this group of players. Just like after PSG and now post Spurs/City, the players have taken their eye off the ball and thought they’d done enough. Players need to switch on every game.

 

[Paul_Scholes18]

His big error was playing such a strong team midweek. Performance was flat and they were losing 50/50s all over the pitch.

Terrible excuse. Should rather have boosted rashford and Martial.

 

[Judge Red]

Wow, I was too drunk to follow this match and now I wish I hadn’t stopped drinking.

He’s had his last chance. The club will do whatever it does but we now know for certain there’s no hope for him to get anywhere near where we need to be.

 

[Buchan]

Leaving aside obvious and genuine hyperbole for a second, just how many Premier League managers are better than him at present? Ancelotti in for Everton is another added to the list this week. I think there’s at least eight and maybe even towards twelve if you were being a harsh taskmaster.

Utterly shambolic

 

[clarkydaz]

Leaving aside obvious and genuine hyperbole for a second, just how many Premier League managers are better than him at present? Ancelotti in for Everton is another added to the list this week. I think there’s at least eight and maybe even towards twelve if you were being a harsh taskmaster.

Utterly shambolic

if he was sacked, which premier league club at all would want him their manager?

 

[Bwuk]

He’s got to go.

We are worse than we were under Jose.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

still, it’s Nice to see him still smiling in his post match interview.....just feck right off.

 

[Hoof the ball]

Ole has played a blinder concerning his relationship to Ed. He's come in and the rhetoric within the club is that the "culture" needs to be changed, and therefore, an indeterminate amount of time must elapse before said "culture" shift can take place. If he loses, and loses, and loses, he has the argument that said losses are as a result of a malignant culture developed over time and therefore it's not realistically his responsibility for a good portion of them. He'll be here come the summer, even if we lose another ten games this season. Guaranteed.

 

[Skills]

Leaving aside obvious and genuine hyperbole for a second, just how many Premier League managers are better than him at present? Ancelotti in for Everton is another added to the list this week. I think there’s at least eight and maybe even towards twelve if you were being a harsh taskmaster.

Utterly shambolic

He wouldn't have a job at any other club in the top 2 divisions of English football.

 

[Gandalf Greyhame]

Ole wasn't at fault for DDG's howler. He wasn't at fault for a rare AWB mistake. He wasn't at fault for McFred looking terrified today. He wasn't at fault for Lingard's Welbeck-vs-Neuer moment. Let's be clear on that - that was on the individual players, a lack of leadership and composure from a bunch of kids.

He was, however, at fault for failing to motivate the side effectively. He was responsible for being in a situation where he can't drop Lingard or Shaw. He was responsible for not making subs earlier, and most of all, for not making his presence felt on the touchline when the players were in meltdown. To just tell them to get their shit together. It was infuriating to watch him and his staff sit like statues watching the young players lose it mentally in face of the away support and grit and maturity from players like Deeney and Deulofeu.

I don't think he should be sacked on the basis of this. Let's see how the team looks after a transfer window and with Pogba back with a run of games.

 

[lRed]

A new defeat and everyone is back at the Ole out thing.
It's like children wanting their gift on the 23rd of December.

 

[Cantona in disguise]

Ole wasn't at fault for DDG's howler. He wasn't at fault for a rare AWB mistake. He wasn't at fault for McFred looking terrified today. He wasn't at fault for Lingard's Welbeck-vs-Neuer moment. Let's be clear on that - that was on the individual players, a lack of leadership and composure from a bunch of kids.

He was, however, at fault for failing to motivate the side effectively. He was responsible for being in a situation where he can't drop Lingard or Shaw. He was responsible for not making subs earlier, and most of all, for not making his presence felt on the touchline when the players were in meltdown. To just tell them to get their shit together. It was infuriating to watch him and his staff sit like statues watching the young players lose it mentally in face of the away support and grit and maturity from players like Deeney and Deulofeu.

I don't think he should be sacked on the basis of this. Let's see how the team looks after a transfer window and with Pogba back with a run of games.

I was on the fence before and after the spurs and city games. I like any normal fan enjoyed those results. I wanted to believe ole could turn this around. Let's be honest he cant.

I'm not sure how any other manager will do coming in but he must be on thin ice with this result. Simply not good enough. I am an electrician and if I was that bad at fixing faults I would be out. He didnt fix our faults at half time and wasnt quick enough to make changes. His in game fault finding is atrocious.

He got brilliant results at spurs and city and he should take plaudits for that but he has to take the rough with the smooth. For me he should go tonight. I know he wont and maybe that will turn out to be the correct decision by people who know a lot more than me, we shall see.

 

[The Stain]

I don't normally watch the post-match interviews he does because they infuriate me but watching it now. He comes out with some absolute classics.

 

[2 man midfield]

"The first half could've easily been my testimonial..."

He could be right tbf

 

[RussellWilson]

Those to wins v Spurs and City were not a good thing, as I've stated before. I'm sure people will eventually understand why.

 

[hobbers]

A new defeat and everyone is back at the Ole out thing.
It's like children wanting their gift on the 23rd of December.

Expect that to continue, because we're going to lose at least another 6-10 times this season to crap sides.

It's almost as if some fans have ambition while others just have mindless sentimentality.