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Agreed.It's just a pity. Would have liked him here and we really need a striker too but yeah I think Dortmund was a great choice for him.
Agreed.It's just a pity. Would have liked him here and we really need a striker too but yeah I think Dortmund was a great choice for him.
Spurs losing out on Dybala with an Argentine manager was even more impressive.
I believe the existence of this supposed release clause when it will be confirmed by either the player, his agents or the club and not a moment sooner. Not only has the clubs CEO gone on record dozens of times of a clear policy against release clauses, but the figure is way too low to justify moving away from the policy. That clause barely covers the investment in terms of fees for the transfer, making it an incredibly risky and highly uncharacteristic deal for Borussia Dortmund. The club profiled itself as an elite developer of talents with a knack of generating large profits from them in recent years. It is how it sustained gradual growth.If you're that desperate for a title you sign 30 year olds (e.g. Mertens or Vidal), not 19 year olds who will probably need some time to adapt to a new league. I could easily see some form of promise that they will look at good offers a couple of year down the line, like with Sancho, but this is far too much of a financial risk for Dortmund to set a low cap on the profits. Not to mention abandoning their no release clause policy.
Agree Greenwood has amazing potential but if Martial was out for day 5-10 games he’s not ready to fill in for himPeople think Greenwood is ready for the number 9 spot which he isn't. Rashford is gash there too so yeah we need another striker and it seems Ole agrees.
Not a bad joke. But you‘re the 20th poster to write it and it is only page 12.He'll finish his career at Munchen if he does well.
I know he reported them as net, which is why I pointed out that they would very likely far surpass the net numbers of Dortmund's current top earner. Which made me wonder why people trust some guy on Twitter, who reports dodgy numbers.Italians always report wages net. He's not a British journalist mate.
Fact of the matter is there was an auction for Haaland, Reus is not involved in a bidding war as far as I'm concerned. So Dortmund had to pay up, especially with that low transfer fee. You weren't going to pay him peanuts, were you?I know he reported them as net, which is why I pointed out that they would very likely far surpass the net numbers of Dortmund's current top earner. Which made me wonder why people trust some guy on Twitter, who reports dodgy numbers.
You don't sound too sure yourselfWe'll find someone who doesn't see the club as a stepping stone hopefully.
100% agree. football agents fees should be controlled to let's say 10% of any transfer fee. Its people like Raiola who are ruining the game. When I heard we paid him £40m for Pogba to join us I was absolutely stunned. Despicable excuse for a human being.Maybe, but we shouldn't be bending over for an agent/rep like him. He is nothing but trouble.
Think for a second.. please.. You pay that much money to a 19 year old and what do you think will happen the next time you negotiate a contract with a good/important player? They will point towards him and say, "if he's getting that kind of money I want it, too." It's what supposedly happened after United gave Sanchez that silly contract and it's what happened at Bayern, when they broke their wage structure for Götze and Kroos demanded equal pay.Fact of the matter is there was an auction for Haaland, Reus is not involved in a bidding war as far as I'm concerned. So Dortmund had to pay up, especially with that low transfer fee. You weren't going to pay him peanuts, were you?
Spurs isn’t a big club. They have no history and are not a financial powerhouse. If they did/were, Dybala would go to them for free and even throw a fit to leave Juventus since he will be playing for one of the best manager in the world who Argentine as well....Manchester United on the other hand..........Spurs losing out on Dybala with an Argentine manager was even more impressive.
Cause you're allowed to sign before the window. But he can only join them in January.How come this transfer has been finalised and made public when the window isn't even open yet?
You wouldn't have gotten him if you didn't pay him handsome wages. Nagelsmann's team bowed out. It was between you and us. And we pay great wages. Therefore, he must have gotten a pretty penny.Think for a second.. please.. You pay that much money to a 19 year old and what do you think will happen the next time you negotiate a contract with a good/important player? They will point towards him and say, "if he's getting that kind of money I want it, too." It's what supposedly happened after United gave Sanchez that silly contract and it's what happened at Bayern, when they broke their wage structure for Götze and Kroos demanded equal pay.
I know he can't join until January just thought it wasn't made official until the window opens. Maybe Zorc could come to United for a few weeks and show Woodward exactly how it's done.Cause you're allowed to sign before the window. But he can only join them in January.
I think its harsh to blame Ole. On a €20m transfer fee the agency fees make the transfer over double that. Raiola is the issue. He’s always the issue in these situations. Surely as a club we need to come together with other clubs to get these types of agents out of football. They have far too much power.No its not. Dybala is an established big name player not an up and coming 18 year old. Its an indication that even his ex players are not confident in him.
I'm not saying I don't expect him to earn well for his age. I'm saying it's insane to believe that a club like Dortmund is going to wreck their wage structure for him (just because some guy on twitter said so).You wouldn't have gotten him if you didn't pay him handsome wages. Nagelsmann's team bowed out. It was between you and us. And we pay great wages. Therefore, he must have gotten a pretty penny.
Watzke will deny it all he wants, but he's gambling on getting a transfer fee down the road to pay for this operation (transfer, fees and wages).
.....and lucky enough for us, Haaland isn't the only striker in the market.Yeah lucky enough for us Martial is never going to have a bad patch or get injured ever again.
WTF are you talking about - I understand Italian perfectly, don't need Google translate to understand you Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaimeI'm not saying I don't expect him to earn well for his age. I'm saying it's insane to believe that a club like Dortmund is going to wreck their wage structure for him (just because some guy on twitter said so).
Btw this is is the google translated first reply of the tweet you (and others) are basing this on.
10 minutes before the announcement, I did not say anything - in fact I was probably asleep.Sorry but 10 minutes before the announcement you said that the player had not yet decided, now you would know high commissions and prizes and cotillon
He's a well sourced Italian journalist with links to Juve and Raiola, so maybe he does know a bit more than some random Dortmund fan on a Man Utd forum.It's no surprise disinformation works so well if people just gobble up everything they want to believe. But I know.. I know.. maybe he got a quick call from Raiola after the announcement, we can't know for sure, so there is no reason not to believe that random guy on twitter.
You appear confused, maybe a picture will help.WTF are you talking about - I understand Italian perfectly, don't need Google translate to understand you Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
10 minutes before the announcement, I did not say anything - in fact I was probably asleep.
He's a well sourced Italian journalist with links to Juve and Raiola, so maybe he does know a bit more than some random Dortmund fan on a Man Utd forum.
Cheap was due to buyout & it certainly wasn't hush.On a serious note, how to Dortmund get it done on the hush and so cheap? Maybe it’s a guaranteed move to Bayern in the future.
United would never agree to that.So? If he wants to leave he will regardless of a buyout clause. 50 mill might not be a lot but I guess he'll have a couple of good years at Dortmund.
Makes sense.On a serious note, how to Dortmund get it done on the hush and so cheap? Maybe it’s a guaranteed move to Bayern in the future.
Dortmund stated after the Götze debacle, that they will not include buyout clauses anymore. So I take the whole reporting with a grain of salt.United would never agree to that.
Not so sure of that. Due to the release clause (year 3 onwards), it s the player (through his agent) who will decide where to move and not Dortmund. Basically Dortmund will have no say in it.On a serious note, how to Dortmund get it done on the hush and so cheap? Maybe it’s a guaranteed move to Bayern in the future.
That is poor and ignorant language, disgusting really.WTF are you talking about - I understand Italian perfectly, don't need Google translate to understand you Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
10 minutes before the announcement, I did not say anything - in fact I was probably asleep.
He's a well sourced Italian journalist with links to Juve and Raiola, so maybe he does know a bit more than some random Dortmund fan on a Man Utd forum.