The details that have emerged so far stink. It will.only get worse as the full story emerges. It isn't anything to with a nationalistic agenda
You already have wading into the thread like you did.
There are loads of UK citizens getting sent to prison in other countries every year, you hear very little about the
Morally wrong is the keyword here, no?
Being falsely accused of rape... ruins lives, those accused often lose their jobs/uni places, lose their friends, become outcasts, maybe get attacked physically, and if not who knows what it does to an innocent men when people call them “rapist scum” and treat the like leepers. False rape accusations are not only morally wrong, they are also a crime often punishable by time in jail in the UK
Yeah, my point is its not as if @pocco said false rape accusations is as bad as rape itself.
Believe me, no one here is surprised that you'd agree with such a stupid option as poccos.
The reports say she was having consensual sex with one guy, then the others came in, filmed it, then pinned her down and raped her.
I’ve mentioned both reports the one that says what you said and the ones that says she had consensual sex with several guys and got angry when she realised she was filmed.
I haven't seen a report saying she had consensual sex with several guys. Even in the Sun's horrific write up of the case.
Naturally the Cypriot and Israeli Media will report differently.
The people hearing about one false rape accusation, only to turn around and doubt anyone claiming to have been raped are fecking shitbrains and should be barred from having opinions.
That's not really surprising though when you consider the evidential difficulty in most rape cases and the question of consent. Stranger rape is very rare, much like stranger murders. With rape you're normally looking at a dispute over consent between people who have been in a relationship of some sort and know one another. To convict beyond reasonable doubt, one word v another, can be hard going. Especially without any decent supplemental evidence. You're often asking the jury to make a subjective decision on who the believe and if any element of doubt exists they must say not guilty.
That's just daft isn't it? Silly comment. The irony being there's every chance she's been treated as she has been because she's in fact a terrible foreigner in Cyprus.
I’m only half joking!That's not really surprising though when you consider the evidential difficulty in most rape cases and the question of consent. Stranger rape is very rare, much like stranger murders. With rape you're normally looking at a dispute over consent between people who have been in a relationship of some sort and know one another. To convict beyond reasonable doubt, one word v another, can be hard going. Especially without any decent supplemental evidence. You're often asking the jury to make a subjective decision on who the believe and if any element of doubt exists they must say not guilty.
That's just daft isn't it? Silly comment. The irony being there's every chance she's been treated as she has been because she's in fact a terrible foreigner in Cyprus.
Not one post even implied what you’re inferring. Give it a rest please.
I can imagine that trying to get a conviction is very difficult, the figures certainly bear that out, but to the layman (or surely anyone tbh), less than 2% of allegations being acted on does sound low, whichever way you look at it.
Oh, you're one of the brokebrains who thinks women lying about rape is a huge problem.
Learn to fecking read. I said doubting a person because another person lied is dumb as feck.
Sorry, I thought we were doing dumb-as-shit takes.
I think that's misleading. Near enough all will be investigated but getting a conviction is totally different.
I'd be more inclined to have a polite discussion with someone who didn't mischaracterise what I said. Twice.
Everyone's jumping on you here but i do see where you are coming from. Lying about rape can get a person sent to prison, ruin their life or cause them to commit suicide. Also it undermines legitimate rape cases. So yeah whilst the act of rape is worse than the actual lie itself... the consequences of said lie can be comparable.
The way I think about it is that if a lie can get someone sent to prison or ruin their life (drive them to suicide perhaps), would you not equate what that person has to go through with what the rape victim has to go through? Like it's not the lie itself being compared to rape but the consequences of it. I'd say the trauma of being falsely accused of rape is not so far removed from the trauma a rape victim goes through, and if you consider how bad the consequences can get if the falsely accused isn't exonerated then it's not that wild of an opinion.
Being falsely accused of being a murderer is as bad as being murdered.
Its morally wrong to claim someone murdered you!
