TAA is the best right back in the world tbf so easily him. Unfortunate for AWB who is a young excellent fullback, but I cant see him getting too many apps over his career barring a big injury for TAA. Would have Wan Bissaka as 2and choice though, and Walker in the squad as well.
England's best right back?
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I'd rather Ronaldo vs a CB and Trent vs their fullback. The best form of defence is always forcing your opponent into it in the first place
More to the point, TAA is one of the 4 or 5 best players england have. Would be mental to exclude him in the name of defence, especially given the talent available. Be one thing if england had great midfielders, but they don't. Now if Alli were to rediscover his form then sure, play Walker instead if you're afraid of the opponent
The other two simply don't belong in the NT right now(not as FB options in a back-4 at least). One's too limited one way, and the other is a poor man's TAA
If you could combine AWB and TAA you'd be close to having one of the best fullbacks of all time by the age of around 25.
TAA is the better player overall and the capabilites that he has going forward are much more useful in the modern game for top sides than the defensive prowess of AWB.
TAA is the better player overall and the capabilites that he has going forward are much more useful in the modern game for top sides than the defensive prowess of AWB.
This is the issue though, England aren't great in possession tradionally. Will we be able to out possess Spain, Portugal, Holland?
If the answer is yes then TAA is the clear choice, but if we're being pinned back would you want him defending 80% of the time? not for me.
I'm not one of those bitter rival fans who have to expell my hatred of Liverpool and their players every 2 hours or I will struggle to sleep.
Their players look amazing and coached to perfection at the moment. When you see the difference between Henderson 1.0 and Henderson 2.0 and you can argue that they are the same value of player - you do wonder how much Klopp is getting out of them the same way alot of the Dortmund players never really played well out of the yellow shirts apart from a few world class ones.
TAA looks world class and I'd I had to pick one I would choose him over AWB - however, whether it's me trying to be intelligent I'm not sure - but knowing that Klopp isn't going to be at Liverpool forever tells me that TAA's prime might have just have come a bit too quick for him & I believe he might struggle once a new manager and a new type of tactics come to Liverpool.
Their players look amazing and coached to perfection at the moment. When you see the difference between Henderson 1.0 and Henderson 2.0 and you can argue that they are the same value of player - you do wonder how much Klopp is getting out of them the same way alot of the Dortmund players never really played well out of the yellow shirts apart from a few world class ones.
TAA looks world class and I'd I had to pick one I would choose him over AWB - however, whether it's me trying to be intelligent I'm not sure - but knowing that Klopp isn't going to be at Liverpool forever tells me that TAA's prime might have just have come a bit too quick for him & I believe he might struggle once a new manager and a new type of tactics come to Liverpool.
To be fair, if Wan-Bissaka would continue his development, there could be another Maicon-Alves situation, where a more offensive-minded player would be forced further forward or in midfield. A big if though, he's not worth it at the moment, obviously.
We'll still,he will end the season on more appearance's than Rashford did at the point of Euro16, so it's a bit bizzare that a United fan of all supporters would begrudge him.
If you go in expecting to defend deep a lot you'd probably be better with a back 3 anyways then, on account of you don't really have midfielders better at springing counterattacks than TAA
Wan-Bissaka would have the develop A LOT for that kind of situation to happen. Dani Alves only played further forward for Brazil in 2007 because Dinho and Kaka didn't go and they didn't really have better players. Otherwise Maicon kept Dani Alves out on account of being the better player outright.
Maicon was a true monster in his prime, a top FB, Midfielder and Winger all rolled into one. Having him was like playing with 12 guys
Trent should start, without a doubt. WanB should be on the bench for when we need to get defensive.
As I’ve said, he’d have to massively improve for this kind of a situation to be happening. I’m not sure if Maicon was a better player, I’d rate them about the same around Maicon’s peak, but he was more of an orthodox fullback, while Alves had it in him to play in other positions. It’s still possible that Maicon would’ve won the place anyway, but Alves made the choice easier by being so versatile. Although I don’t think that TAA is at the Alves’ level either yet.
Obviously Maicon was outstanding in both phases of the game, a Cafu-light if you will. If he would’ve had a longer peak, he would’ve been considered as one of the all-time great right backs without a doubt.
To answer the question, Alexander Arnold, and it isn't even close. Wouldn't surprise me if Southgate fecks is it up somehow by playing lesser players in Trippier or Walker.
I think Walker's finished as an England player bar a crisis.
Not playing well ATM and not getting any younger.
That pass that Trent played last night which swerved around VVD and perfectly into Robertson’s path was incredible. It’s kind of becoming a trademark pass of his but no less stunning each time he plays it. England are lucky, wish he was Irish.
TAA offensively
AWB defensively
AWB defensively
Alexander-Arnold, I think he is currently the best attacking right back in the world.
AWB is the best defensive right back in the league.
AWB is the best defensive right back in the league.
Correct, with the qualifier that TAA is still comfortably the best overall. Partly because attacking can be that important to a fullback's game, partly because he's just that good at attacking.
I'd go with that in defence.
Trent is clearly the best
That said I wouldn't mind trying him in central midfield in a friendly with walker at rb
That said I wouldn't mind trying him in central midfield in a friendly with walker at rb
TAA is the best right back period.
AWB is third/Fourth behind Walker and debatable over/under Trippier.
AWB is third/Fourth behind Walker and debatable over/under Trippier.
Alexander-Arnold - there we go that was easy.
I don't think he's a right back, and could he be even registered for England? He appears to be Scottish. Even if all of that would apply, he still seems to be quite far off from the mentioned players (TAA, AWB, Trippier, Walker). Hence this recall.
All in all, not sure about that mate...
Sorry wrong thread
Arnold has more genuine chance creation to his game than either of them — not sure a back 5 is the way to go but I’d definitely prioritise Arnold’s strengths over our no.10 options.
The caveat of ‘best attacking’ and ‘best defending’ is a bit desperate, really. I don’t think it’s particularly close.
I don’t understand the call for TAA to be played at RM or 8 for england. He is absolutely fantastic at RB and teams are scared of his capabilities from that position. Most teams have to change there plans to take that threat into account which would make playing against england uncomfortable, like it does for Liverpool. Moving him from that position would be a mistake for two reasons, It would move him to a position where defending his threat is something everyone is more accustomed to, and secondly he would be out of his comfort zone. If a team is to perform at it’s best and win, the aim should be to make other teams uncomfortable, not our own players. AWB might be an upgrade on TAA defensively, but not that much. What TAA brings to the table from RB is much more beneficial for England.
TAA blows from very hot to cold with his passing. Not good enough for midfield?
Trent Arnold by a mile.
As bad defensively as Tripper, but that wand of a right foot putting balls into the box....yum yum
As bad defensively as Tripper, but that wand of a right foot putting balls into the box....yum yum