Glazers / Woodward out! (One down)

fergiesarmy1

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there is no shame from these charlatans anymore, he’s overseen the worst spell in 3 decades and gets paid premier league footballer rates for it. Every day following this club is becoming more and more painful with no solution in sight.
 
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I asked this question elsewhere today but got no reply.

How is it that the people backing Ole to the hilt appear to be the ones who hate Woodward and the Glazers the most? Surely if you think Ole is right and the project is right then finally Ed and the owners are doing something right?

If all the players we bought are the right type of United player and the club briefed everyone after the media that a transfer board has been put in place and that the type of signing will be different to the past years, then once again, are the club/Woodward/owners not starting to get it right?

How do you marry the two? That Ole and the project is great for the long term, but that Woodward and the Glazers need to feck off?

You do realise new Arab owners wouldn't have Ole managing for a single second longer or give any shits about a "United way"?
 

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I asked this question elsewhere today but got no reply.

How is it that the people backing Ole to the hilt appear to be the ones who hate Woodward and the Glazers the most?
Surely if you think Ole is right and the project is right then finally Ed and the owners are doing something right?

If all the players we bought are the right type of United player and the club briefed everyone after the media that a transfer board has been put in place and that the type of signing will be different to the past years, then once again, are the club/Woodward/owners not starting to get it right?

How do you marry the two? That Ole and the project is great for the long term, but that Woodward and the Glazers need to feck off?

You do realise new Arab owners wouldn't have Ole managing for a single second longer or give any shits about a "United way"?
You probably weren't given a reply because it's loaded question with a ridiculous generalization. Try asking a better question.
 

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I asked this question elsewhere today but got no reply.

How is it that the people backing Ole to the hilt appear to be the ones who hate Woodward and the Glazers the most? Surely if you think Ole is right and the project is right then finally Ed and the owners are doing something right?

If all the players we bought are the right type of United player and the club briefed everyone after the media that a transfer board has been put in place and that the type of signing will be different to the past years, then once again, are the club/Woodward/owners not starting to get it right?

How do you marry the two? That Ole and the project is great for the long term, but that Woodward and the Glazers need to feck off?

You do realise new Arab owners wouldn't have Ole managing for a single second longer or give any shits about a "United way"?
Backing Ole and hating Woodward and Glazers isn’t as crazy as it sounds. I’d rather Ole at the helm and everyone turned on Ed and he Glazers.

Them sacking Ole just gives them more time to sell us plan E or F or whatever the feck we are up to now as the last plan was youth, time and Ole, prior to that was Ed briefing “other clubs can’t do what we can do”, prior to that was Moyes etc.

How can we trust these clowns to run the club? At least I feel I know and trust Ole’s motives.
 
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You probably weren't given a reply because it's loaded question with a ridiculous generalization. Try asking a better question.
How is it loaded?

I'm asking the question because despite thinking Ole's a terrible appointment, I do believe the club is finally getting it right with having a direction with regards to where they want to head. I think they have listened to Sir Alex and David Gill with regards to having a transfer committee and a manager who has the right ideals.

And I could go through the threads Mack and absolutely prove to you that there are an incredible amount of posters that are backing Ole and every little thing about the project whilst then jumping into Glazer/Woodward threads and absolutely tearing them to pieces.

So I want some explanation as to how those backing Ole and the project don't give any credit to Woodward or the owners for that very appointment and project?
 

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How is it loaded?

I'm asking the question because despite thinking Ole's a terrible appointment, I do believe the club is finally getting it right with having a direction with regards to where they want to head. I think they have listened to Sir Alex and David Gill with regards to having a transfer committee and a manager who has the right ideals.

So I want some explanation as to how those backing Ole and the project don't give any credit to Woodward or the owners for that very appointment and project?
You really can't see how?

How is it that the people backing Ole to the hilt appear to be the ones who hate Woodward and the Glazers the most?
Anyone who responds essentially admits they apply to both of these weird generalizations. Arguing from a losing position. That's how.
 
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You really can't see how?

Anyone who responds essentially admits they apply to both of these weird generalizations. Arguing from a losing position. That's how.
Oh so you mean there is no reason to back Ole and hate the Glazers.

Surely there has to be man, it makes absolutely zero sense otherwise. Has to be something I'm not quite grasping.
 

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I asked this question elsewhere today but got no reply.

How is it that the people backing Ole to the hilt appear to be the ones who hate Woodward and the Glazers the most? Surely if you think Ole is right and the project is right then finally Ed and the owners are doing something right?

If all the players we bought are the right type of United player and the club briefed everyone after the media that a transfer board has been put in place and that the type of signing will be different to the past years, then once again, are the club/Woodward/owners not starting to get it right?

How do you marry the two? That Ole and the project is great for the long term, but that Woodward and the Glazers need to feck off?

You do realise new Arab owners wouldn't have Ole managing for a single second longer or give any shits about a "United way"?
Both are wrong. Stop looking for contradictions when the problem is right in front of your face.
 

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What pisses me off the most is we might end up signing Fernandes now and loads of people will forget the last few years like it was nothing. We've been here before. Signed ADM, Pogba, Falcao, Zlatan, Miki, the list goes on and on. Feck all changes at this club. We've had loads of talent. We've got a toxic club. Woodward needs to go before we sign anyone else for me. Fernandes is a good player but it's just putting a plaster on a gaping hole in your leg at this point. Damage has been done.

We need to force this cretin and the Glazers out. Don't be conned by their panic buying now. We won't see real change until they are gone.
 

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Hopefully these protests will just get louder and more media coverage as the weeks progress. If it starts damaging the brand for sponsorship then it will hopefully see the end of the Glazers and Woodward. It’s been warranted for a long time now.
 

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Expect few player rumours & DoF candidates etc... in next few days to calm this shit storm then nothing going to happen as usual.
 

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Really pleased to hear OT singing so clearly the anti woodward and glazer songs. It's the sort of public pressure they won't be able to ignore for long.
 

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I think that's the first time I've heard anti-Woodward/Glazer chants at OT. I'm glad they only started when we were already 3-0 up. Makes it clear that we're not against the players or the manager, just the board above them.
 

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Abusing Ed might actually get Ole fired faster than if the fans would do the same to the manager.
 

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I think that's the first time I've heard anti-Woodward/Glazer chants at OT. I'm glad they only started when we were already 3-0 up. Makes it clear that we're not against the players or the manager, just the board above them.
Exactly 10 years ago we had them, 'Love United, Hate Glazer' 'Green and Gold until the Club is sold' and We want Glazers Out.

 

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Hope this carries on for the season and the away fans carry it on. About time really.
 

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How is it loaded?

I'm asking the question because despite thinking Ole's a terrible appointment, I do believe the club is finally getting it right with having a direction with regards to where they want to head. I think they have listened to Sir Alex and David Gill with regards to having a transfer committee and a manager who has the right ideals.

And I could go through the threads Mack and absolutely prove to you that there are an incredible amount of posters that are backing Ole and every little thing about the project whilst then jumping into Glazer/Woodward threads and absolutely tearing them to pieces.

So I want some explanation as to how those backing Ole and the project don't give any credit to Woodward or the owners for that very appointment and project?
Because Ole has had only a few months to make a difference and he is an actual legend of the club. He deserves respect and support. He came at a time when the club was in the doldrums, reeling under the toxicity and negativity that Jose left behind. He picked the boys up from that quagmire and actually took us into a winning run that ended with the PSG game.

Glazers and Woodward have a far longer history of always putting the business side of the club ahead of long-term thinking and performances on the pitch so don't be so surprised when gullible fans are not buying their version of the truth anymore. In fact, all this talk about long-term thinking will be thrown out of the window if Solksjaer is sacked. There will be press briefings about his OGS was out of his depth and the players were disillusioned under his leadership. Then they will explain another 2-3 years of mediocrity by claiming that the club is in transition.

If you look at how Glazers are running their other franchises then the evidence is damning. I would believe the data available to me than the rosy picture of the future they are trying to paint here. They have had enough time to stop the rot and get us in a place where we can compete for top honours. If it hasn't happened in so many years, what makes you think it will happen this time?
 

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Yeah it's great this happened when the team weren't winning so it can't be dismissed as a blame for a bad performance
 

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Exactly 10 years ago we had them, 'Love United, Hate Glazer' 'Green and Gold until the Club is sold' and We want Glazers Out.

Oh yeah, I'm aware of the Green & Gold campaign. But I've been a regular match goer since the Moyes season and I don't remember hearing anything like that before. Even though there's even more reason to protest now than there was then.