[DomesticTadpole]

Not much to cheer you here either.

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[jasT1981]

Ole looked emotionally wrecked in that interview.

 

[Snafu17]

And how do you propose we improve and dig ourselves out of this mess?

I dunno, a structured plan spanning multiple seasons, lead by a capable figure and/or
a committeee, which will recruit world class talent on and off the pitch? The feck you're asking me for, I'm not on the board.

 

[ravi2]

DOF/Technical Director. We have needed one for years, instead have just thrown money about with no plan. Problem I have is that Ole is a United legend, but does not have the charisma to attract players, if he had that potential signings might actually overlook that he is not a particularly good coach/manager.

I used to be of the opinion that a DOF would solve the majority of our issues but I am not sure anymore as the DOF will be a figurehead appointed by Ed who reports to Ed instead of directly to the owners. I think we are stuck until he goes.

 

[Gorse Hill Red]

We've become the Liverpool of the 90s/00s. We turn up for the odd big game to cheer ourselves up.

The teams much lower than us we just capitulate.

Oh how I miss Fergie.

Evans and Houlier’s teams were better than this. Embarrassing performance today.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Ole looked emotionally wrecked in that interview.

Which is not what we want to see, but this job does it to you.

 

[OLLY ORANGE]

OLE - We haven't taken our chances and we were not sharpe enough.
So why don't you bring Lukaku or Sanchez Oopps we let them go without replacing them. DOH !

 

[MrPooni]

Has Ole given his speech yet?

He appears to be finally collapsing under the weight of all the cliches he's been dishing out over the past year or so. He looks like a pathological blagger whose lies have finally caught up with him.

 

[podurban2]

Ole looked emotionally wrecked in that interview.

He’s out there smiling, ffs.

 

[Steerpike]

We have the 4th highest wage bill in world football.

Yes, and some of the players who we need to get shot of asap are the one's near the top of the salary tree.

The only players to emerge with any credit from this evening were Wan-Bissaka and Jones.

The extent to which Rashford has masked the deficiencies in our forward play was glaringly obvious. He and Greenwood seem to be the only ones who actually realise that scoring goals is a big part of their job. Martial spends too much time away from the goal, and not enough time in the box. There was a point in the first half where Wan-Bissaka was putting in a cross from the right of the penalty area and Martial, having played no part in the build up, somehow found himself between Wan-Bissaka and the right hand touchline - how the f*** does he expect to present a goal threat from there, and how the f*** did he find himself in that postion (he is wearing the number 9 shirt after all). Yet, despite his disdain for getting into the box, he still had two presentable chances to score before Burnley took the lead.

With a decent central forward on the pitch from the start, we would probably have won that game quite comfortably. I hope Greenwood gets the start ahead of Martial from now on.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I used to be of the opinion that a DOF would solve the majority of our issues but I am not sure anymore as the DOF will be a figurehead appointed by Ed who reports to Ed instead of directly to the owners. I think we are stuck until he goes.

The owners and Ed and Co are the biggest problem.

 

[Magical Manchester United]

The club is cursed. The football gods have decided to give us the Liverpool treatment. It will last for a good 30 years probably so may as well strap ourselves in. There may be the odd happy moment. Maybe a cup win. But for the most part we will be a laughing stock.

There is no other explanation as to how a club can be so embarrassing in literally every single aspect. In terms of quality of football, results, general PR, transfer negotiations, managing players.

Players leave the club and suddenly become good again. Look at Smalling.

The football gods have decided "sorry United fans, that's enough fun for you. We're going to make you suffer now."

Doesn't matter who we sign. Who we appoint as manager. They will be struck by the curse. They will slowly drift into ineptitude.

I'm starting to feel that sense of resignation. No point getting excited for anything to do with this club as the jinx is fully in place.

 

[Withnail]

Ole looks broken.

I was just about to say poor Ole looks like a broken man.

I don't think he has it left in him to motivate this team for the rest of the season sadly.

 

[r3idy]

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[Zlatattack]

Glazers OUT
Woodward OUT
Ole OUT

 

[RedNed77]

From watching Ole post match, my gut feeling is we aren’t in for anybody at the moment. All you guys waiting on Fernandes can probably forget that idea right now. He’s planning for his January “no value in the market/players we want aren’t available speech” already.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Some of the replies say it all.

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[Pughnichi]

I’ll usually try and find a positive or something funny to focus on, but that was a real low point for me. I get that we are without our three most key players, but feck me that was abysmal.

Normally I’d try and find consolation in “we’ll move on and do better next time”. Not sure I want there to be a next time after that. It was clueless and insipid. Utterly, utterly awful stuff.

a club of our stature and riches should in no way be referring to McTominay as one of our key players. Nothing against the lad and I’m in total agreement he has been one of our best players this season but FML...we’ve had midfielders such as Robson, Ince, Keane, Scholes, Carrick, Hargreaves even before he turned into a lame duck. It’s sad, embarrassing, frustrating to see Matic, McT and Pereira all getting serious game time in the middle of the park.

Man for man, compare this to our previous great sides. 92/93 98/99 07/08 and to a man we are absolute tripe in comparison.

It’s bizarre because I was in agreement that the likes of Fellaini and Lukaku were right to be moved on because they just weren’t good enough (what I expect of a Utd player) but the truth is, they’d walk right back in to this team.

How is Jones still here
How is Lingard getting minutes
Why hasn’t DeGea been dropped yet
Wtf were ‘they’ thinking allowing Smalling go to Roma

And the big one for me...why continue playing 4231 when we don’t have a decent 10 and the double pivot is not working. It’s beyond reckless.

Insanity: keep doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. Einstein

 

[The Purley King]

Which is not what we want to see, but this job does it to you.

Why don’t you want to see that?
He should be crushed. I loved ole as a player but that is the final straw for his competence as a manager:
Not good enough. Not by a long tucking stretch.

 

[Nori-]

What I don't understand is, these players train 5+ days a week. It's their full time job. Hours and hours every week practising and fine tuning. It's all they have to worry about doing.

So how can there be zero progress or improvement? How can we keep getting worse and worse? What's going on?

We're sitting on less points than last year after 13 months of a new manager. At what point does everyone agree, whatever he is doing isn't working? You can't keep blaming injuries for the bad results, he has other players in our squad that have won leagues and they look awful.

I really wanted him to be a success but it's obvious he is out of his depth. Get poch in, 2-3 top players this window and hope we can win the Europa League/nick 4th.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

Looked bereft of life in that interview

 

[Rbrown0806]

The best thing I saw tonight was the obvious boycott. Hopefully we can keep it up.

Not sure even that will have much effect. I could do a better job if you gave me £950m. It's hard to see how you can end up with such dross for that kind of money. The Glazers have found themselves a gravy train and aren't going to let go easily. All the time Ed keeps delivering the profits, they are happy. The football is an irrelevance to them.

 

[Nickelodeon]

He was absolutely wrecked in the interview. Can't say anything against Ed.

 

[Cantona in disguise]

Ole needed to throw the lot of them under the bus. It's clear as day he isnt being backed but he wont come out and say it. The bloke needs putting out of his misery. Woodward is a cnut

 

[Bilbo]

Just got back. First time I've seen the atmosphere that bad in....well, ever really. A terrible night for the club but also one that might lead to action from the board I feel.

First 30 minutes completely dominant, missed some chances but what does it matter really.

I cant defend that performance at all, and I wont. I still want the club to get some quality in to give this manager a fighting chance. He is not the problem here. We've mis-spent for 5 years and this is what it looks like when that happens.

 

[R'hllor]

Few moments in 1st half, then Burnley fixed their left side and that was it, on other side, next level subs, Greenwood got in and moved on right. What to say about performance in 2nd half, clueless, uncoached shit with zero ideas, there is no hiding behind quality.

 

[RedNed77]

I used to be of the opinion that a DOF would solve the majority of our issues but I am not sure anymore as the DOF will be a figurehead appointed by Ed who reports to Ed instead of directly to the owners. I think we are stuck until he goes.

A gut feeling I have is that Ole will build the squad he wants then move up to DoF and appoint a manager. We’ll have Ole in place for another season at least.

 

[GiddyUp]

It was over the moment Ole decided it was a good idea to bring Lingard on when 0-2 behind.... Do you expect a player who is incapable of scoring or assist to change that scoreline?

I honestly believe you could take any guy between the ages of 19 and 35 out of the stands tonight and they would have been no better or no worse than Lingard for those 25 minutes.

 

[sparx99]

I look at our first XI today and thought if they were playing for another team would I want us to sign them?

Brandon Williams is the only one I’d like the look of.

De Gea is too meek and not good enough with his feet for a top club.

AWB is great tackler but poor on the ball.

Jones should be given a free transfer.

Maguire is just average.He hasn’t scored a header yet and we concede the most set piece goals in the league. So his strength (heading) has been non-existent while his weakness (lack of pace) prevents a high line.

Fred has been much improved but still lacks quality overall. Probably look great for Liverpool in their hard running midfield but you wouldn’t see him at a possession based team like City, Barca or Madrid. Yes, I know City tried to sign him but plenty of players go there and get moved on quickly.

Matic is well past his best and lacks the pace and energy to play the high tempo top sides play with.

Dan James is just achingly average. Perfect player perhaps for Barcelona away in the CL. Useless against a packed defence. Although I bet Pep could coach him into a wide poacher like Sterling. His pace should get him across the front of defenders for low crosses but we don’t do that so basically useless to us.

Mata was a good player in his day and occasionally still turns up but doesn’t have the legs for regular games.

Pereira is another whose a decent player but just not good enough for the top level. If he was at Norwich or Southampton you wouldn’t be clamouring to sign him.

Martial is just too lazy and inconsistent.He doesn’t have the ability to get away with his lack of work ethic. Other players who have drifted around over the years get away with it cos they are good to watch. He just doesn’t do enough or excite enough to justify it.

 

[Coops73]

Ole is looking more and more like Gollum holding onto his precious, I feel for him, I pity him, you can almost see the weight of it In his face and demeanour and I admire his god forsaken will to be positive and his fortitude, it’s not nice to see, Christ! I bet those closest to him must be frightened. Yes he’s getting arse fecked by these cnuts that run the club but like a dog you love you wonder whether it’s better to just take the pain away for its own good.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Why don’t you want to see that?
He should be crushed. I loved ole as a player but that is the final straw for his competence as a manager:
Not good enough. Not by a long tucking stretch.

I don't want it to make him ill. I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

 

[wolvored]

They had good managers in place, from Mancini, Pellegrini and now Pep. Players are not stupid, they will watch us and know if a manager is tactically inept. They might also know some of the players and they might be saying things about the coaching.

Thats what i mean they have good owners who want to run a football team, so hire the best managers and buy the right players, the money comes second to that.

 

[Rbrown0806]

What I don't understand is, these players train 5+ days a week. It's their full time job. Hours and hours every week practising and fine tuning. It's all they have to worry about doing.

So how can there be zero progress or improvement? How can we keep getting worse and worse? What's going on?

We're sitting on less points than last year after 13 months of a new manager. At what point does everyone agree, whatever he is doing isn't working? You can't keep blaming injuries for the bad results, he has other players in our squad that have won leagues and they look awful.

I really wanted him to be a success but it's obvious he is out of his depth. Get poch in, 2-3 top players this window and hope we can win the Europa League/nick 4th.

We wont sign any players in this window and it's getting to the point where decent players wont want to join us either.
Grab Pochettino while he is still available.. but the problem is more than the manager...its Woodward and the Glazers. We have previously hired some top managers with a good track record and still not challenged in the PL.

 

[elnorte]

Just got back. First time I've seen the atmosphere that bad in....well, ever really. A terrible night for the club but also one that might lead to action from the board I feel.

First 30 minutes completely dominant, missed some chances but what does it matter really.

I cant defend that performance at all, and I wont. I still want the club to get some quality in to give this manager a fighting chance. He is not the problem here. We've mis-spent for 5 years and this is what it looks like when that happens.

Ha. He's sure as hell one of them.

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

He’s out there smiling, ffs.

Well he is the smiling assassin, unfortunately the club is the victim this time

 

[Ban]

He appears to be finally collapsing under the weight of all the cliches he's been dishing out over the past year or so. He looks like a pathological blagger whose lies have finally caught up with him.

Pathological.

Blagger.


That's new.

 

[Mibabalou]

Absolute disgrace top to bottom, club is an absolute joke.

We're hitting AC Milan levels of free fall.

 

[Mr Anderson]

Same old same old. Sluggish, no tempo, no attacking ideas. So badly setup - the squad available has enough to beat Burnley.

 

[Neo_Mufc]

Evans and Houlier’s teams were better than this. Embarrassing performance today.

I used to laugh at Lpool when they would pick up a big result because I always knew they would lose the next or draw. That's who we have become.

We have such a spineless team. Only the WC managers have the ability to take poor players and fit them in a system/team. Fergie was a genius for that.

I don't understand how we have the likes of Pereira, Jones, Shaw, Lindelof, Lingard still at this club. They are simply not good enough.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

Lots of anti Ed and Glazer’s chants... Stadium was empty at the end pretty much

Nothing bad for Ole though.

Was it my imagination or did Lingard get a lot of boos when he came on?