The dominos that will fall because of Covid-19

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1. No way. Too much expertise and low cost manufacturing in China. A lot of companies who haven't yet will start creating contingency plans and lining up domestic suppliers for just-in-case scenarios

2. Good fecking riddance. I say this a lot but Bill Burr has a great bit on cruise ships.

3. Only temporary but every part counts.

4. About fecking time.
I suspect a lot of Chinese companies will move part of their their manufacturing capacity to other countries, diversify their workforce. Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Vietnam, Thailand etc might benefit from this.
 

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Long shot but more people consider vegetarianism/vegan lifestyle? Diseases keep coming from the appalling conditions captive animals are kept in.
That wont happen but hopefully China start finally clamping down on these enormous unregulated open air live wild animal markets.
 

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Speaking of American healthcare. I read a story that compared two cases of a tourist calling a doctor.

An American tourist went to the Netherlands, got a stomach bug and called a doctor. The doctor said, it's probably nothing serious, stay hydrated, check your temperature three times a day and see if it passes with a few days. She got a bill for 25 euro's, though usually the actual payment of this, isn't really enforced.

The second case was a Dutch tourist in Miami in the same situation. The doctor came over right away, perscribed quite a few different meds and presented a bill of 2400 dollars to be paid right there.

Supposedly this is a true story. But is it really?!

About 25 years ago, my neighbour's son went to the US with his University Football Team to play in a tournement in San Jose, CA.

During the first match, he fell awkwardly and broke his ankle.

He was carried off on a stretcher but left in the Dressing Room for about an hour while one of the team's support staff had to go back to the hotel where they were staying to get the Corporate Credit Card and Certificate of Travel Insurance before the ambulance would take him to hospital.

To this day, he still has a slight limp when he's walking uphill or downhill.
 

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Bat and Pangolin population will thrive again.
 

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A relatively small thing but I'd imagine more people will have the ability to work from home or out of office when this is all done. That more agile work life will have a low-key impact on a lot of people, one would think.
This has started at my place. It was being discussed in a very low-key way last year but has massively accelerated over the past fortnight. Got over half the office at home today. Can't say I'm missing the daily commute thus far!
 

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About 25 years ago, my neighbour's son went to the US with his University Football Team to play in a tournement in San Jose, CA.

During the first match, he fell awkwardly and broke his ankle.

He was carried off on a stretcher but left in the Dressing Room for about an hour while one of the team's support staff had to go back to the hotel where they were staying to get the Corporate Credit Card and Certificate of Travel Insurance before the ambulance would take him to hospital.

To this day, he still has a slight limp when he's walking uphill or downhill.
Seems healthcare is really treated as a commodity you have to purchase in the US. I mean I get that healthcare isnt free, but this seems abit, I dunno, transactional.

Part that most got me is that an American doctor perscribes a boatload of medicine for something that for all intends and purposes, can be cured by drinking water and staying in bed. Makes it seem like money is the main driver, not the patient's health.
 

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This has started at my place. It was being discussed in a very low-key way last year but has massively accelerated over the past fortnight. Got over half the office at home today. Can't say I'm missing the daily commute thus far!
Yep, same in my workplace. It was always a long term plan for the company but this has forced them to speed up the process massively.
 

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If there's a top ten coronavirus tracks list then surely Under Pressure has to be #1, followed closely by Who wants to live forever.
And Don't stop me now at #3.

Queen really cornered this.
 

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Only for testing, not treatment, thus far.
So people who can't pay would be roaming around spreading the virus? I can see the illegals not going to the doctors afraid to be caught by ICE, but for what I can see besides Texas most state hospitals accepts people with no insurance (at least in New Jersey).
 

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Interestingly, if it were a more deadly disease, the entire human race - incredible progress as we've made over the past century - could get decimated or even completely wiped out. The Universe could care less if humans exist or not.
Wiped out not, but the civilization would fall. If H5N1 would have had the same rate of spreading (it actually registered only 3 cases of going human to human) with its 61% mortality rate, it would have destroyed civilization. Human race would have survived but just in a few years, the world would be totally unrecognizable.
 
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This whole Corona thing makes it quite impressive that the Roman empire survived the Antonine plague. Though I suppose air travel was not that popular during that particular dynasty.
 

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That wont happen but hopefully China start finally clamping down on these enormous unregulated open air live wild animal markets.
They banned all of these markets after the SARS epidemic but the people who have a taste for exotic meat are the rich who lobbied the communist government hard and they started exempting one thing after another before reopening them again and here we are. Two epidemiological disasters in two decades.
 

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They banned all of these markets after the SARS epidemic but the people who have a taste for exotic meat are the rich who lobbied the communist government hard and they started exempting one thing after another before reopening them again and here we are. Two epidemiological disasters in two decades.
Bat meat cannot be that good.
 

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It might swing the US election away from Trump.
It might actually.. His regime will be tainted by the lack of plan and slow reactions towards this threat. His comments regarding this matter will go into the history books.
 

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As if humans will learn. We have swine, ebola, sars. H1n1, didnt change nothing. People is very good at forgetting stuff after some time.

Bushfire. Climate changes. Even ww2 is starting to be forgotten with brexit.

You curse, critized, but give it 2 or 3 months it'll be business as usual.
This is a black swan event. Humans will learn. Effects of this will be felt for at least a decade. At least economically we're entering a recession world wide.
 

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This is a black swan event. Humans will learn. Effects of this will be felt for at least a decade. At least economically we're entering a recession world wide.
Is it a Black Swan event? The rise of a pandemic from China in precisely these circumstances has been long predicted by experts. Does Taleb's definition of a Black Swan not require unpredictability?
 

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A lot of the informal / cash paying jobs in countries like India will go. These are mainly service industry and blue collar jobs and will hit the poor hard. And am not sure if they'll ever come back
 

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Is it a Black Swan event? The rise of a pandemic from China in precisely these circumstances has been long predicted by experts. Does Taleb's definition of a Black Swan not require unpredictability?
Well you make a good point. I meant Black Swan in terms of its economic impact. I don't think anyone predicted this sort of catastrophic crash across all markets, if they did then its my ignorance and my bad. And it's only just starting out tbf. We could end up in a full fledged recession across the world in a quarter.
 

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Good practice when we have to live less carbon footprint heavy lives.

Also a wake up call that countries shouldn't be so reliant on one country like China for production of meds for example.
 

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This will happen imo. I think most companies just didn't want to try it and they will be surprised by how well it works. Was always going to happen at some point of course but nowhere near as fast.
Yes, it has been a growing topic but no critical mass of companies prepared to actually do it. Now they have been forced and will realise the benefits.
 

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Well you make a good point. I meant Black Swan in terms of its economic impact. I don't think anyone predicted this sort of catastrophic crash across all markets, if they did then its my ignorance and my bad. And it's only just starting out tbf. We could end up in a full fledged recession across the world in a quarter.
Agreed. It seems almost likely on our current trajectory.
 

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A full end of public in sporting events. Forever. I don't want it to happen, it would be terrible, but I wonder if the level of fear could reach such a great height that the rich people who make the decisions would just swallow their greed.
 

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I do wonder if it will at least distract us from war temporarily.

*Iran/Iraq militias and the US start firing missiles at each other again.

Oh, right. On it goes then...
 

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What about contractual situations regarding footballers? So if we go through a sustained period of this pandemic, which now looks increasingly likely, players' value will go down and they'll even be allowed to leave on free in some cases. It's going to be a complete cluster feck unless there's some stipulations for this sort of stuff in players contracts.
 

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If hundreds of millions die as I think:

- Antivaxers will mostly disappear
- House market will plummet
- Less old people that suppose an economic burden (I am strickly speaking of economic terms)
- China to be the next superpower
- M4A in US will get a final push
- Climate change goals will get a very positive push
- Liverpool will not win a league in another 30 years at least
- ali express overtaking Amazon outside china
 

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I do wonder if it will at least distract us from war temporarily.

*Iran/Iraq militias and the US start firing missiles at each other again.

Oh, right. On it goes then...
Turkey and Syria are apparently at war with each other now. Also border clashes between Turks and Greeks.