jamesjimmybyrondean
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We've been able to produce some of the best Goalkeepers over the years but how would you rank them?
Fair enough, in my ranking I don't mean that to disrespect De Gea, I love having him and I respect what he's done but he just doesn't get above the other 2 for me.De Gea > VDS for me and it isn't particularly close. De Gea's a classic case of United players either leaving as hero's on their own terms or their legacies being shat on by the fanbase if they overstay. Had he left earlier, you'd have half the fanbase crywanking over him and the other half spitting poison at Woodward at failing to keep our best players.
Wouldn't be fair to comment on Schmeichel as his prime is before my time.
If there was one thing Schmeichel was great at, it was organising his defense, but they did it in very different ways.Schmeichel and DDG are maybe better on paper, but VDS played a very important part in arguably the best defense in English football history. His communication with the defense and general understanding of the game was gold.
De Gea would be better if you think a keeper's job is just to save shots. In fact, he might be better than Pete if it's just that.De Gea > VDS for me and it isn't particularly close. De Gea's a classic case of United players either leaving as hero's on their own terms or their legacies being shat on by the fanbase if they overstay. Had he left earlier, you'd have half the fanbase crywanking over him and the other half spitting poison at Woodward at failing to keep our best players.
Wouldn't be fair to comment on Schmeichel as his prime is before my time.
Just 2.Would you say VDS the best at saving penalties out of the 3?
I agree and here is something difficult to judge. VDS had one of the best back 4 we ever had while DDG had one of the worst. Difficult to say how they would have compared had the situation been in reverse.Schmeichel and DDG are maybe better on paper, but VDS played a very important part in arguably the best defense in English football history. His communication with the defense and general understanding of the game was gold.
I would place Van Der Sar above De Gea. I feel Van Der Sar was a grown-up, an organiser, a facilitator of good overall defence work in a way that David isn't. I know I may be biased by his form recently not matching up to some truly astounding seasons. I also recognise my bias as Van Der Sar played in a better team, with better players. However, I feel a top keeper also organises their defence, and elevates it, in such a way as to prevent a lot of the issues United have had. Someone like Chris Smalling, for instance, needs constant guidance from behind him, despite having all the physical attributes. In short, I feel Van Der Sar made others better, as well as having fantastic positioning, decision making and calmness.Schmeichel - DDG - VDS
Schmeichel was just as good a shot stopper as DDG, but he was a true leader at the back and was the most commanding goalie I have ever seen in the box. As Giggs said, he knew that Schmeichel would try to grab the ball, often did, and then Giggs would sprint forwards. He literally put fear into opposition strikers. On a more negative note, he was more error prone than VDS, but that is related to him taking more risks.
DDG is more of a match winner than VDS was. However, VDS was a leader at the back and appeared far better at organising his defenders. It is very close, but I think DDG is a little underrated at the moment. Completely disagree with @Skills saying it's not particularly close - yes, DDG was a superior shot stopper, but VDS was better at positioning himself, so often he would stand where the shot came, making it look like a piece of cake. He also organised his defense much better, resulting in fewer chances creatd for the opposition.
You could just as easily argue the reverse though. That VDS was protected and made better by having two of the best centre backs in Europe in front of him, both of whom were leaders in their own right and capable of organising themselves. Whereas DDG was left dealing with Chris Smalling (who very much isn't one of the best defenders in Europe) and someone else who wasn't even as good as Chris Smalling.I would place Van Der Sar above De Gea. I feel Van Der Sar was a grown-up, an organiser, a facilitator of good overall defence work in a way that David isn't. I know I may be biased by his form recently not matching up to some truly astounding seasons. I also recognise my bias as Van Der Sar played in a better team, with better players. However, I feel a top keeper also organises their defence, and elevates it, in such a way as to prevent a lot of the issues United have had. Someone like Chris Smalling, for instance, needs constant guidance from behind him, despite having all the physical attributes. In short, I feel Van Der Sar made others better, as well as having fantastic positioning, decision making and calmness.
This... VdS was a phenomenally consistent keeper.It will be a very unpopular opinion, but I would rate
1) Vds
2) Pete
3) Ddg
I just feel Vds was slightly more reliable than Pete as much as I love him too.
You're right, I forgot about him.Title winning goalkeepers (starter)
5. Bosnich
Same.It will be a very unpopular opinion, but I would rate
1) Vds
2) Pete
3) Ddg
I just feel Vds was slightly more reliable than Pete as much as I love him too.
I think this is exactly correct.I think I've cracked it:
If your defense is great/world class(9 out of 10 or higher): go with VDS.
If your defense is decent/good(rated 7/8 out of 10): go with Pete.
If your defense is mediocre or even bad: go with DDG.
I can't think of anything De Gea is better than VDS at other than shot stopping, where he is as good as I've ever seen. Hence @OleBoiii 's ranking makes sense to me. If you're team isn't great and you're getting peppered with shots incessantly, DDG is preferable but VDS is a better all rounder.De Gea > VDS for me and it isn't particularly close. De Gea's a classic case of United players either leaving as hero's on their own terms or their legacies being shat on by the fanbase if they overstay. Had he left earlier, you'd have half the fanbase crywanking over him and the other half spitting poison at Woodward at failing to keep our best players.
Wouldn't be fair to comment on Schmeichel as his prime is before my time.