Seeing how there's two active topics about him, I thought Götze (possibly in the Ballon d'Or sphere) was significantly more talented than Reus (speed merchant) during their first season together at Dortmund.
Your most overrated footballer
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Speed merchant is incredibly harsh
funny Zidane gets a few mentions and Figo doesn't. They were (almost) seen as equally good but whenever i watched that Real team. Zidane was a god and Figo also played.
I find Zidane a tad overrated, he was class for sure and had those big game moments, but take an AM like Zico would could do everything and score goals galore.
Umm we saw Rooney and him play together when Rooney was at least 2 years past his prime. At his peak I'd take the likes of Rooney or Aguero or RVN over Zlatan every day.
Zlatan won trophies because he was invariably playing for the top team in the land and he massively inflated his numbers by playing for PSG in that farmers league. In the CL, he only ever played in one semi final, if I'm not mistaken, and that too for Pep's all conquering Barca team. He was by all means a fantastic player but nowhere near as good as he thinks himself to be.
I thought Schürrle was better than both around 14-15.
So yeah, André Schürrle is another one i overrated.
The thing about Zidane is that there is a misconception regarding his inconsistency. The reason people complained about it is that he gave the impression that he could always deliver a 10 but seemed perfectly happy to just give a 7 rated performance. Zidane wasn't a player that would fluctuate between 8 and 4 but 6 and 10, he always remained at the top end, he was always one of the best performer on the pitch. I have seen Messi and Ronaldo have more terrible games than Zidane. The actually knock against Zidane concerns his temper for a playmaker he was a bit too susceptible to get booked or red carded.
Unpopular opinion but for me its Lewandowski.
Disagree with that, that Zidane was an inconsistent player is a fair criticism I think. But he had a capacity, when he switched it on, to totally dominate games and opponents, and was the ultimate big game player. Which has led to this slight over rating of him. Still a fantastic player though, of course.
I know I've posted here before but just remembered a player who I really thought would go far.
Phillip Wollscheid, a defender who suddenly came through at Nuremberg and did really well in his first season. Got a big money move to Leverkusen and it seemed everything was on track for him to become a German national and class player.
He ended up not performing that well at Leverkusen. Had a decent start at Stoke but started getting injured soon after and then retired at age 29.
Phillip Wollscheid, a defender who suddenly came through at Nuremberg and did really well in his first season. Got a big money move to Leverkusen and it seemed everything was on track for him to become a German national and class player.
He ended up not performing that well at Leverkusen. Had a decent start at Stoke but started getting injured soon after and then retired at age 29.
Thomas Muller? He kinda looks like a lanky donkey, but I think he's brilliant. Bayern went 87 matches without losing when he scored (82 wins), the record was broken last year.
I find the Riquelme hype a little puzzling, surely he should have done better for Barca if he was that good.
Totti. Lewandowski is a great shout too.
I think for me it’s probably Memphis Depay. I was convinced we had signed a future world beater when we outdid PSG on his transfer and after seeing his goals in Holland. Truthfully he was poor in a Utd shirt despite a few promising displays. I’m glad he’s not gone on to have a decent career and I hope he could still yet move to a bigger club as I like his game.
I mean with my namesake I suppose I also have to say Januzaj, he had all the talent in the world and it’s a real shame he didn’t have the drive to match it.
I mean with my namesake I suppose I also have to say Januzaj, he had all the talent in the world and it’s a real shame he didn’t have the drive to match it.
How can anyone say Messi is overrated. He’s one of the most talented players the world has ever seen and has achieved pretty much everything in football. What’s your reasoning for including him?
Also funny people including Ronaldo too, mental.
Same here. I had always admired Welbeck with his composure in front of goal, lovely shooting technique, as well as movement off the ball. He had a pretty good spell during the Christmas in 13/14 and I had always thought he's a better player than the highly rated Chicharito. It's a shame that van Gaal got rid of him for Falcao and he had been suffering from recurrent injuries since then.
We don't disagree then because I didn't argue against the inconsistency claim I simply described the type of inconsistency, I agree with it but it's not an inconsistency between good and bad. I also believe that he is overrated which is something that I said multiple time and I strongly believe that Platini was a better player.
I'm another who overrated Gotze. I thought he was all set to become the next best player in the world. Unfortunately injuries and Bayern ruined him.
Gerrard is massively overrated by some. Again great player but he also was never consistently amazing. He had couple of games where he looked great and then was just average to good in others. Maybe if he were playing with better players things could have been different but even then the way some portray him as the best cm and compare him to the likes of zidane is a joke.
Thinking Cleverley would be our Lampard was a bit over, but imo he was actually a good player. His mentality and work rate were as good as Herrera, it's just that people had a higher bar and rated players using different standards by then. He was having a fantastic loan spell at Wigan, so good that Roberto Martinez decided to recruit him again at Everton. Pereira's a different story, he actually struggled at Granada and failed to fight for a place.
I actually don't think Luiz is as horrible as many people suggest. He's had plenty of solid games gone unnoticed and the media love to make a scene when he makes a minor mistake. His ball playing ability is never appreciated, despite he's obviously a better ball player than the likes of Maguire and Stones.
I agree that Ramos has been one of the worst defenders ever. His defensive positioning, tackling and decision are just terrible. People just hype him because he scores big goals. If he were playing in a smaller side like this, his career would be screwed up.
Typical player who is only useful in dead ball, another example is James Rodriguez.
Ah right! Sorry, misunderstood your post.
Many players in that title-winning Dortmund team were indeed overrated, such as Gotze, Reus, Sahin, Gundogan and Kagawa. They just thrived under Klopp and somehow fitted to his system, but most of them failed after leaving and Lewandowski was the only successful one.
I could or should have been more explicit. I have seen many people claim that he is a top 3 all time player which to me is a scandalous claim. So he is definitely overrated by some but he was a great player and one that had less bad games than some of the best players ever.Ah right! Sorry, misunderstood your post.
It's fair based on how they performed at Real post 2001 when Zidane joined. Figo was more of an inside-right by that point in his career, rather than the swashbuckling winger of Barcelona where IMO he hit his peak.
Well, I rated Anderson when he arrived at Utd, and I don't think I was wrong in a footballing sense - his cheery energy and willingness to drive forward were genuinely enjoyable to watch. He had pace and great technical ability. What you can't account for are character failings - in Anderson's case, but the same would apply to a lot of other overrated players, weak mentality and lack of personal discipline, aggravated by cruciate injuries (possibly because of the same lack of discipline) and pure bad luck (he was in a serious car crash). The same applies to, for example, Januzaj, who showed every sign technically of being a top player but coped badly with his elevation to the first team and took a long time to mature.
Both failed to fulfill their potential - there's still time left for Januzaj - but I don't think I overrated them at the time. The truly overrated players, for me, are the likes of Pogba, whose statistics, we are told, prove their high rating but somehow only manage to exert a baneful and negative influence on the team.
Ibrahimovic.
It's a fecking mental illness. The trumpers of football supporters.
Your post was good until the last paragraph.
REally??
Van Gaal didn’t want Riquelme and let him know that. They also played him hopelessly out of position
That is a very good one! For a long time since we've signed him he was considered the our brightest youth prospect since Pogba & Morrison.
I mean, when a player from your academy scores a goal like this in the U-20 World Cup final
Or provides good performances against Madrid and Barca playing for a mediocre side...
And then he comes to your first team and suddenly you see a limited mediocre player. It took me a while to adjust, I had such high hopes for him.
Best shout so far. He's not really that great is he?
Totti (Roma)
Never ever got why the Italians rated him world class.
Never ever got why the Italians rated him world class.
Most underrated you mean
Some good shouts but not Ramos kroos or kante. And chicharito was underrated imo.
I remember watching the 2006 World Cup desperately wanting United to buy Tim Borowski.
I'm glad we didn't buy Tim Borowski
I'm glad we didn't buy Tim Borowski
Agree without doubt. I also could never see the hype around Fabregas and Mikel. Thought they were average.
Overrated is always a perceptive thing. Some of it is one's own fault, because of having high expectations based on media/fan talk.
So not expecting to debate on it.
Bale - He has medals to show for it, and the goals in CL finals, but overall with all his injuries and his contributions in the Real team, I think he has too much hype in British media. And add the fans wanting him here every summer, because 'He was definitely going to turn us into league winners. Let us ignore what is happening in Spain" talk.
Martial - He has loads of potential, but I don't think his hype matches his on field exploits. His fanboys have blamed everyone in the team - coaches, tactics, teammates and all, but I still don't see him as someone who will tear it apart in the league.
Luke Shaw -Young player who came with awesome potential. But his hype once again was well over what he was showing on the field. Fans went gaga over his ability to blast forward along the left side. What I saw was him abandoning the LB position to overtly try and contribute to the attack, while our other 3 defenders weren't talented enough to plug the gap. And add to that, Shaw had shi**y crossing talent, which many times made the whole running forward futile and we were left with just gaps at the back. So many years without a competition in the position, yet I feel we still need an upgrade in that position. But every decent game he has, we see fans saying MOTM performance and so convinced we are set for years to come.
Needless to say, every time the likes of Martial/Shaw pull on our shirt, I want them to simply destroy the opposition. And become the best in the business.
So not expecting to debate on it.
Bale - He has medals to show for it, and the goals in CL finals, but overall with all his injuries and his contributions in the Real team, I think he has too much hype in British media. And add the fans wanting him here every summer, because 'He was definitely going to turn us into league winners. Let us ignore what is happening in Spain" talk.
Martial - He has loads of potential, but I don't think his hype matches his on field exploits. His fanboys have blamed everyone in the team - coaches, tactics, teammates and all, but I still don't see him as someone who will tear it apart in the league.
Luke Shaw -Young player who came with awesome potential. But his hype once again was well over what he was showing on the field. Fans went gaga over his ability to blast forward along the left side. What I saw was him abandoning the LB position to overtly try and contribute to the attack, while our other 3 defenders weren't talented enough to plug the gap. And add to that, Shaw had shi**y crossing talent, which many times made the whole running forward futile and we were left with just gaps at the back. So many years without a competition in the position, yet I feel we still need an upgrade in that position. But every decent game he has, we see fans saying MOTM performance and so convinced we are set for years to come.
Needless to say, every time the likes of Martial/Shaw pull on our shirt, I want them to simply destroy the opposition. And become the best in the business.
Pele, Maradona and Messi
Hey, why not, looking at the other names people have picked
Hey, why not, looking at the other names people have picked