Does Ole have it in him to drop De Gea for the last 2 PL games?

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And it maybe he turns it around and goes from strength to strength as for a goalkeeper he is relatively young.
The decline of Rooney was rapid and was not helped with the beer and ciggies, I don’t think David will take the same path.
We are not talking about a normal keeper here, we are talking about one of the best ever in the Premier League and I think he deserves a chance to turn it around.
Not at the expense of costing United a chance of a trophy or a place in the CL. He was the best keeper in the world at one stage, and there is no United fan you will find who wouldn't hope that he can turn it around. The point is, do we trust him to turn it around in the 2 crucial games this week?

For what it's worth, this point is now moot. Ole has backed him to turn it around. So we will have to live with that decision no matter the outcome.
 

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When Ole is encouraging the team to play without fear, to try risky passes, to have a strong mentality you don’t get that from just dropping someone when they make an error.
Yes, if he makes a mistake by passing out and it gets caught our then that's all in the building process, which he has done alot of times btw.

These are not errors anymore, this is more than that now. An error is the first goal which he could have saved, or the Palace goal at home.

This season only, not taking into consideration ones he could have saved like Palace (H), Bournemouth home (h), he has made some real clangers.

Everton home and away
Watford away
Spurs
Chelsea

That is 5 drastic errors he has made, then we add about 5/6 errors he has made.

These goals are costing us big time. Everton, Spurs, Watford are all opening goals.
 

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I would totally agree with you if it was one serious error but he made two in the game alone yesterday. Not forgetting about the other eight or so he has made since Arsenal away last season.

He has just not looked there at all since the last world cup and cannot trust a GK who is in that sort of form for such a long period of time.
Errors happen the fact De Gea has made one yesterday doesn’t erase every other time he’s been world class for us.

Show me a GK that makes no mistakes and I’ll show you a unicorn. Ederson, Allison, Oblak, Ter Stegen all of them make mistakes each season but they aren’t under the same critical lens as De Gea is for us. Romero would have made more mistakes then De Gea in that same period of time.

De Gea hasn’t had his best season this season of course but is the solution to drop him and therefore completely shatter every message of faith in him, ruin his reputation, give him up to the media for slaughter and all but terminate his relationship with the club? Absolutely not and by dropping him at this key stage of the season with no opportunity for him to rectify his mistakes and prove the doubters wrong you ruin any chance of him playing for United again.

How many games have we gone unbeaten to that point with him in goal?

Who is more used to high pressure situations Romero or De Gea?

Who has saved our ass more in those situations Romero or De Gea?

The answer is clear and I cannot believe anyone is entertaining the idea. It would be the stupidest decision of a United manger for a very long time.
 

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Not at the expense of costing United a chance of a trophy or a place in the CL. He was the best keeper in the world at one stage, and there is no United fan you will find who wouldn't hope that he can turn it around. The point is, do we trust him to turn it around in the 2 crucial games this week?

For what it's worth, this point is now moot. Ole has backed him to turn it around. So we will have to live with that decision no matter the outcome.
Yes of course you trust him for exactly the point that he can be world class and more often than not in his history at the club he has been. De Gea is more likely to make a game winning save than another stupid mistake.

I’m glad Ole has shown more common sense than some here.
Yes, if he makes a mistake by passing out and it gets caught our then that's all in the building process, which he has done alot of times btw.

These are not errors anymore, this is more than that now. An error is the first goal which he could have saved, or the Palace goal at home.

This season only, not taking into consideration ones he could have saved like Palace (H), Bournemouth home (h), he has made some real clangers.

Everton home and away
Watford away
Spurs
Chelsea

That is 5 drastic errors he has made, then we add about 5/6 errors he has made.

These goals are costing us big time. Everton, Spurs, Watford are all opening goals.
He will save us more than he costs us and has done so this season despite the doom and gloom of posters like yourself.

If you took the time to look into the positives you’d see.

The fact is on average he is making more game saving contributions than mistakes even in his “poorer” season compared to previous. Romero has never shown half of what De Gea can do and it would be stupid to throw him suddenly in at the deep end.

Ole is doing the right thing in backing him.
 

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Of course he does, but on the face of it doing it with just 2 games left in the domestic season and the team just off a 19 match unbeaten run is simply not the time.

Like Bosnich said earlier - it will all depend on how De Gea is in training between now and Wednesday evening.
 

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That is true, i just wanted to say that it wasn't what the poster thinks, but what Ole said. If Ole believes the drivel he says or not, is another matter.

He won't drop him, also not next season. I can make a bet with anyone. Rooney would still play for us regularly if he was here. Ole is too sentimental and the United way is hurting us more in this instance than it helps. he hasn't dropped him last season, he hasn't dropped him this season and he won't drop him the next one either. Ole is insane by sticking with a past it GK leaking goals
There's no way you can call Ole sentimental after how he's dropped some players. That's nonsense
 

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There's no way you can call Ole sentimental after how he's dropped some players. That's nonsense
Dropping Lingard is easy. Dropping De Gea he won't do. Ole hasn't dropped or fecked off any big name associated with United. Alexis was an easy choice as was Lukaku. The majority of the fanbase hated them and they aren't legends, nevermind United ones. Good luck trying that with Dave. It is pretty easy now, but he still won't do it. If it backfires in the next games, he should be sacked.
 

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He will save us more than he costs us and has done so this season despite the doom and gloom of posters like yourself.

If you took the time to look into the positives you’d see.

The fact is on average he is making more game saving contributions than mistakes even in his “poorer” season compared to previous. Romero has never shown half of what De Gea can do and it would be stupid to throw him suddenly in at the deep end.

Ole is doing the right thing in backing him.
I have never said Romero should start. I have backed DDG to regain his form. Neither have I said Ole shouldn't back him. I am saying what is the truth.

Look back on my posts on him, I have continuously said he has been loyal to us and player of the year, we should be too. We have been loyal to him since the world cup. It is 2 years of loyalty.

What crap about he will save us more points than he will cost us. Every goalkeeper should make saves. This season, can you even thing of 5 games where DDG has saved us?

People talk about Palace game, every Manutd goal keeper should be making those saves, it isnt special. What DDG did 3/4 years ago was special.

Previously, we ignored his command of the penalty area and distribution because he can pull of saves no one could. Now he is making mistakes that have no excuse.
 

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I still believe he's the best goalkeeper in the squad. Bit of a knee-jerk reaction to an admittedly terrible game yesterday, when he's actually been quite good recently. People have a narrative and every mistake will further convince them, while they'll fail to internalise his good performances.
Whether you agree DDG should be dropped for these 2 games or not, I wish people would stop saying criticism of DDG is a knee jerk reaction. I hardly ever criticize our players on here but DDG has cost us far too many games over the last 18 months to label any criticism directed towards him as knee jerk.

He may still be a great goalkeeper on his day, but he's longer a consistent GK. And any outfield player will tell you they'd rather have a consistent GK behind them rather than one who can produce a great save one moment and then mess up massively the next.
 

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Its not going to happen and it'd be the wrong call. De Geas been on a decent run the last half season. Hes become an average goalkeeper, but average goalkeepers make mistakes. Way too much distraction if we mess with that for 2 games. Deal with that during the off season... though more likely it'll be De Gea with next season being his last season. Maybe they tell him its his last one unless he sorts it out.
 

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I have never said Romero should start. I have backed DDG to regain his form. Neither have I said Ole shouldn't back him. I am saying what is the truth.

Look back on my posts on him, I have continuously said he has been loyal to us and player of the year, we should be too. We have been loyal to him since the world cup. It is 2 years of loyalty.

What crap about he will save us more points than he will cost us. Every goalkeeper should make saves. This season, can you even thing of 5 games where DDG has saved us?

People talk about Palace game, every Manutd goal keeper should be making those saves, it isnt special. What DDG did 3/4 years ago was special.

Previously, we ignored his command of the penalty area and distribution because he can pull of saves no one could. Now he is making mistakes that have no excuse.
It’s not crap there are far more occasions this season where De Gea has done the right thing than the wrong. I can think of more than 5 but me listing them and the saves he made won’t change your narrative as you’ll just say “he’s a GK he’s meant to make saves”. He makes saves every game even in the Chelsea game he stopped goals from happening too. He made one serious mistake in that match and has made very few in the context of a season.

Essentially you have your agenda now and I see that nothing he does will convince you of his ability now.

I said in a previous thread the fact this was on BBC so more fans could watch it it’s no surprise the pitchforks are out. But having watched all season I’m sorry but De Gea is not a problem we need to fix. He’s a good GK that one day hopefully we can replace with someone like Henderson.

Anyone in support of dropping him these next two games is being reactionary and idiotic.
 

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He won't be dropped now. Forget about it. Fingers crossed he does it in the next season though.
 

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Think we've conceded 11 in 20 or something like that. I'm not sure dropping de gea is a test of solskjaers mental toughness or whatever the suggestion is.
 

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Dropping Lingard is easy. Dropping De Gea he won't do. Ole hasn't dropped or fecked off any big name associated with United. Alexis was an easy choice as was Lukaku. The majority of the fanbase hated them and they aren't legends, nevermind United ones. Good luck trying that with Dave. It is pretty easy now, but he still won't do it. If it backfires in the next games, he should be sacked.
Tbh I don't see the difference between dropping Lingard and DDG. You're saying that if Ole drop DDG because of bad form and play his backup and if we lose he'll get sacked? Or the whole team would mutiny and drop games? Or else?

And look at the team Ole inherited or our current squad, imo only DDG and Pogba were "big name associated with United". You really think he should have fecked off any of those two ?
 

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It’s not crap there are far more occasions this season where De Gea has done the right thing than the wrong. I can think of more than 5 but me listing them and the saves he made won’t change your narrative as you’ll just say “he’s a GK he’s meant to make saves”. He makes saves every game even in the Chelsea game he stopped goals from happening too. He made one serious mistake in that match and has made very few in the context of a season.

Essentially you have your agenda now and I see that nothing he does will convince you of his ability now.

I said in a previous thread the fact this was on BBC so more fans could watch it it’s no surprise the pitchforks are out. But having watched all season I’m sorry but De Gea is not a problem we need to fix. He’s a good GK that one day hopefully we can replace with someone like Henderson.

Anyone in support of dropping him these next two games is being reactionary and idiotic.
Again, have I said he needs to be dropped for the next 2 games? What purpose would that be for?

I do not have a narrative against DDG, I am stating the facts at the moment.

Very few in the context of the season?
This season? he has made serious errors against Palace, Everton x 2, Watford, Bournemouth, Spurs, Chelsea

7 serious errors in 36 games is 1 every 5 game. Apart from Chelsea, they have either been 1st goals or winning goals.

Palace - 2 points dropped
Everton - 4 points dropped
Watford - I will give 0 because we lost 2 - 0
Bournemouth - 0 cause we came back
Spurs - 2 points dropped

We would be 8 points better off if DDG did not make serious mistaked this year. Can you highlight where he has saved us 8 points?
 

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I still believe he's the best goalkeeper in the squad. Bit of a knee-jerk reaction to an admittedly terrible game yesterday, when he's actually been quite good recently. People have a narrative and every mistake will further convince them, while they'll fail to internalise his good performances.
The rare voice of reason in the all too familiar stampede to slate. He had a poor game, people need to get over it. According to the knee-jerkers on here no one in our defense is ‘good enough’. Yet somehow we’re tied for second in GAs and competing for a CL slot. Thankfully Ole is manager and not the knee-jerkers on here.
 

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How confident are you Ole will?

Very low.
I think he would but only if he has better options. DDG has been bad, but Romero would be any better? That I don't know. I just don't buy the talk of Ole fancy anyone than the club. Or afraid of any "dressing room power" if we have any. By his interviews he has made it pretty clear that none is bigger than the club and he'll quietly and eventually phase out who don't perform.
 

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Errors happen the fact De Gea has made one yesterday doesn’t erase every other time he’s been world class for us.
He made two that led to goals, and he's been making gaffes far too regularly for the past two years. I've lost trust in him. Sure, he can still pull a world class save out of the bag, like he did against Palace, but what good does that do when he spills routine saves into the goal or into the path of an opposition player? Henderson is better than him currently. De Gea needs a kick up the arse at the very least. At worst he's finished at the very top level.
 

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Errors happen the fact De Gea has made one yesterday doesn’t erase every other time he’s been world class for us.

Show me a GK that makes no mistakes and I’ll show you a unicorn. Ederson, Allison, Oblak, Ter Stegen all of them make mistakes each season but they aren’t under the same critical lens as De Gea is for us. Romero would have made more mistakes then De Gea in that same period of time.

De Gea hasn’t had his best season this season of course but is the solution to drop him and therefore completely shatter every message of faith in him, ruin his reputation, give him up to the media for slaughter and all but terminate his relationship with the club? Absolutely not and by dropping him at this key stage of the season with no opportunity for him to rectify his mistakes and prove the doubters wrong you ruin any chance of him playing for United again.

How many games have we gone unbeaten to that point with him in goal?

Who is more used to high pressure situations Romero or De Gea?

Who has saved our ass more in those situations Romero or De Gea?

The answer is clear and I cannot believe anyone is entertaining the idea. It would be the stupidest decision of a United manger for a very long time.
This post would make sense had this been an isolated incident. Unfortunately though, he's been all too regular for at least 2 seasons now, but i'd probably say he's been well below his best for 3 years. He certainly hasn't been "the best gk in the world" for 4 years at least.

Thing is, its not just that he's making mistakes. Its not as straight forward with that. De Gea has always had glaring weaknesses (primarily on corners and other similar situations) but he'd make up for this by pulling off absolutely stunning, phenomenal saves - and he'd do that regularly. He still makes world class saves from time to time, but now we can't even rely on him with a lot of regulation efforts. Without his consistent amazing shot stopping ability, he's an error prone goalkeeper that doesn't command his box. Honestly, there are probably 10-15 other goalkeepers in the PL that I'd take over him right now. As for Romero - he's done enough to deserve a shot if you ask me. We should make him #1 for the rest of the season. Europa League too.
 

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Yeah, can you imagine Bruno who Ole described as a person who isn't satisfied with putting in 99% and always giving 100% will get pissed if the manager is going to drop an under performing player for the last 2 do or die games of the season. Yeah, he sure must be pissed.
Have you ever been around top performers?

I have. And I can tell you that the moment you consistently aren't pulling your weight, they will let you know. If you perform, they will be your best friends, but the moment you drop the ball the knives are out.
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I work for one of the largest multi nationals in the finance dept and trade billions daily, don't talk to me about top performers. If I make a mistake it costs the company hundred of thousands instantly.

I know well what its like to be in a pressurized environment daily and what it is like to be pulled up over errors.

Like I said to another poster earlier, I've no doubt the wheels are in motion already with Ole having discussions with De Gea.

I don't think its a coincidence that De Gea started yesterday out of the blue over Romero. I believe Ole has said to De Gea coming out of this lock down or shortly thereafter that you get every game between now and the season's end and you have to perform or Henderson is incoming as #1.

I've posted it a few times in the last week, but feel free to listen to Ole's interview with Highperformance podcast and he perfectly describes how he handles under performers.
 

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Strikers used to fear him. Now his own fans are terrified of anything on target. Pot shots from 25-30 yards makes my asshole clench these days.

A shocking decline.
 

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I don't know why DdG is getting all the blame for such a lousy performance. Maguire was equally abject. There wasn't a good performance in the whole team. I mean sure, he's not as good as he was. But he's got enough credit in the bank to see out the season.
 

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Strikers used to fear him. Now his own fans are terrified of anything on target. Pot shots from 25-30 yards makes my asshole clench these days.

A shocking decline.
I can't do anything but agree with this, sadly.

We went from "oh he's about to shoot. No worry, DDG would save it anyway" to "oh he's about to shoot, I'm having an heart attack ..."
 

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I don't think its a coincidence that De Gea started yesterday out of the blue over Romero. I believe Ole has said to De Gea coming out of this lock down or shortly thereafter that you get every game between now and the season's end and you have to perform or Henderson is incoming as #1.
This is exactly why I was not surprised with DDG playing. The issue with him is he is on such a high wage, dropping him for Romero will solve nothing.

If he can play and improve his concentration, Ole is trying to play him into form.

He has done that with Rashford, Fred, Matic and even tried it with Lingard and Perreira.

I am sure Ole is having words with DDG.
 

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And what's Romero, English?? Would they not like to see him get a game? Theyd hardly be interested in getting top 4 I guess either. Such a strange line of thinking.

You think Bruno gives a shit about anything other than winning? Did he get upset with TFM played instead of friend, neighbour and countryman Dalot??? Has Rashford downed tools since Jesse got frozen out???

They aren't teenage girls on a playground. They're professional footballers who understand football is and has to be meritocratic.
Japanese, ffs don't get smart with me.

It's amazing, how folks can slate someone like Pogba as being a singular cancer and destroying a club from the inside but other players aren't capable of doing so cause they are their particular favorites. Confirmation bias at its finest with certain individuals in question.

What's the point in comparing Dalot to De Gea?

Dalot has barley muddied his boots since joining for god sake, the other is a PL Winner, repeated POTY winner, FA Cup winner and Europa League winner and was once considered the very best in the world. The only thing Dalot is champion of is being perm-crocked!

If Dalot doesn't play I doubt many mind, but if you go dropping a keeper who has been a regular starter and over 400 apps for the club and an international keeper, then its a different story.

Now rather than getting smart with me, it'd help if people analyzed each player in question and judged the situation for its worth and thought about man management here and what is best for the club in the short and long term.

  • Short term - Ole will likely give De Gea the final 2 games, its a risk yes and I don't deny it but Romero has faced crap in the cups and I think many supporters over rate his abilities.
  • Long term - Henderson will likely be recalled to the club and become #1 very shortly after.

I'd be extremely confident this scenario will play out in the months ahead.
 

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Not sure this would be the right call right now. I'm freakingly nervous when he is in goal these days but Romero has been severely underplayed this season. To throw him in right now could end in a disaster.
 

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This is exactly why I was not surprised with DDG playing. The issue with him is he is on such a high wage, dropping him for Romero will solve nothing.

If he can play and improve his concentration, Ole is trying to play him into form.

He has done that with Rashford, Fred, Matic and even tried it with Lingard and Perreira.

I am sure Ole is having words with DDG.
He's sitting pretty alright. Earning nicely and no real challenge to that #1 and Henderson needs to be recalled because Romero is a decent keeper but he isn't going to take the #1 off him and he knows it.

As frustrating as it is and as nervous as DDG makes us all the last 2 years, its still sadly the best we currently have for the remaining 2 games.
 

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I feel more and more the CAF makes less and less sense.

After a defeat is just toxicity towards whoever made the biggest error.

Cheer up guys.
 

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Ole is extremely ruthless and decisive. He's proven that beyond doubt.

Think the thread title is kind of presenting itself as a weird dig.
LVG sold half the squad, and Mourinho phased out the likes of Rooney and Schweinsteiger without batting an eye. Both managers still had preferred players who would play no matter what.

DDG seems like that kind of player for Ole. Big wages and plays no matter what.
 

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Pretty sure DeGea will be between the sticks for the remaining two games don’t think Ole will make a scene out of if..
 

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Japanese, ffs don't get smart with me.

It's amazing, how folks can slate someone like Pogba as being a singular cancer and destroying a club from the inside but other players aren't capable of doing so cause they are their particular favorites. Confirmation bias at its finest with certain individuals in question.

What's the point in comparing Dalot to De Gea?

Dalot has barley muddied his boots since joining for god sake, the other is a PL Winner, repeated POTY winner, FA Cup winner and Europa League winner and was once considered the very best in the world. The only thing Dalot is champion of is being perm-crocked!

If Dalot doesn't play I doubt many mind, but if you go dropping a keeper who has been a regular starter and over 400 apps for the club and an international keeper, then its a different story.

Now rather than getting smart with me, it'd help if people analyzed each player in question and judged the situation for its worth and thought about man management here and what is best for the club in the short and long term.

  • Short term - Ole will likely give De Gea the final 2 games, its a risk yes and I don't deny it but Romero has faced crap in the cups and I think many supporters over rate his abilities.
  • Long term - Henderson will likely be recalled to the club and become #1 very shortly after.

I'd be extremely confident this scenario will play out in the months ahead.
Get over yourself. Your whole premise was about as stupid as it gets and was rightly called out. You've realised that and moved on from it thankfully.

Don't bother reframing the argument either. Everybody knows Dalot is terrible.

I would ask what the relevance of the bolded part is. De Gea has been off form for 2 and a half years. Please tell me what use his 400 appearances and international caps are to us when his nerve is gone and he's making howlers ever second game and costing us results.

I have very little trust in Romero. I don't think he's a top class keeper by any stretch. But right now I think he's far far more likely to handle the pressure of the next two games than De Gea who can't seem to even get his basic technique right at the moment. Right now everything is going through him. You've got former keepers slating his technique and huge questions over his nerves. Whatever is wrong with him isn't going to be magically cured in a couple of days.

There's too much at stake. Romero isn't amazing but he's a confident goalkeeper who can handle a big occasion. He's played well in the latter stages of World Cups. De Gea even at his very best was a bundle of nerves any time he played for Spain. With his form and confidence already at an all time low do you really trust him not to let us down over the next couple of games?
 

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LVG sold half the squad, and Mourinho phased out the likes of Rooney and Schweinsteiger without batting an eye. Both managers still had preferred players who would play no matter what.

DDG seems like that kind of player for Ole. Big wages and plays no matter what.
May name a few please?
 

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Get over yourself. Your whole premise was about as stupid as it gets and was rightly called out. You've realised that and moved on from it thankfully.

Don't bother reframing the argument either. Everybody knows Dalot is terrible.
You're mistaken, I'm not moving on from it at all. It's a valid point.

You made the point that Dalot not playing is akin to De Gea being dropped, it isn't. I had to explain it to you why it's such a ridiculous comparison and you admit as much here then by stating "everybody knows Dalot is terrible". One was at one point considered the best in his class at what he does, Dalot has barely even feckin played professional football.

Why compare them then? :lol:

I would ask what the relevance of the bolded part is. De Gea has been off form for 2 and a half years. Please tell me what use his 400 appearances and international caps are to us when his nerve is gone and he's making howlers ever second game and costing us results.
The relevancy is the same as above, best in class at one point.

The relevancy is that in the world of football, managers will afford players a period of time to address their issues, be they personal or professional. He's been afforded that time as I've stated as such in previous comments. But with 2 games to go now, it aides no one to change keeper and causing such unrest in the camp with such sweeping decisions to oust a player with his record so suddenly.

I have very little trust in Romero. I don't think he's a top class keeper by any stretch. But right now I think he's far far more likely to handle the pressure of the next two games than De Gea who can't seem to even get his basic technique right at the moment. Right now everything is going through him. You've got former keepers slating his technique and huge questions over his nerves. Whatever is wrong with him isn't going to be magically cured in a couple of days.
So you agree then that Romero doesn't exactly fill you with confidence?

There's nothing to suggest that he will handle the pressure? He's played as a back up and faced the likes of the mighty Tranmere, Rochdale and Colchester and Derby.

I'll just remind you as well in the last round of the FA Cup vs Norwich, he conceded a similar goal to Mount's yesterday from long range.

There's too much at stake. Romero isn't amazing but he's a confident goalkeeper who can handle a big occasion. He's played well in the latter stages of World Cups. De Gea even at his very best was a bundle of nerves any time he played for Spain. With his form and confidence already at an all time low do you really trust him not to let us down over the next couple of games?
Aside from Sampdoria, I don't believe he's ever been a consistent #1 for any club and there's likely good reason for that.

Again, with 2 games left... I think making sweeping decisions is not the time to do it.

Get through the season and then make first team calls like who your #1 is.
 

Strelok

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Lukaku for Jose, Rooney for LVG.

My captain shall always play. Why always Lukaku.
Yeah Lukaku we all know why, Jose bought him and he's his boy. But tbh strangely I can't even remember how Rooney fared for us by that time. Only thing came to my mind when think about that time is it's boring af and I was usually half sleepy watching us. Any help here please?
 

He'sRaldo

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Yeah Lukaku we all know why, Jose bought him and he's his boy. But tbh strangely I can't even remember how Rooney fared for us by that time. Only thing came to my mind when think about that time is it's boring af and I was usually half sleepy watching us. Any help here please?
Sorry mate I was right there with you in dreamland. A few times I'd open my eyes, see Rooney lumbering about in midfield, and then promptly go back to sleep.
 

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Yeah Lukaku we all know why, Jose bought him and he's his boy. But tbh strangely I can't even remember how Rooney fared for us by that time. Only thing came to my mind when think about that time is it's boring af and I was usually half sleepy watching us. Any help here please?
He was being played as a striker and was downright appalling. Found the net something like 8 times in 30 appearances.