From Adrian Kajumba who is close to the Sancho camp. We're about to become an absolute laughing stock once again. Top negotiation from our guys once again.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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Sancho is a good few levels ahead of Havertz as it stands and is younger.
This is the same forum that asks questions like “why would Jack Grealish want to join us?” so having an inferiority complex to Madrid and Barca is small fry.
Sancho wants to play in his home league but people can’t quite grasp why he’d want to play for the biggest club in that league who actually on paper have a very exciting young side again and with his signing will have shown they’re willing to spend big to supplement that young team with further top signings. Everyone bangs on about projects in football - well for an ambitious young footballer there aren’t many bigger than making this club successful again.
That's quite ironic considering that Ole probably owes Bruno the fact that we made it to 3rd place. Meanwhile we are still in need of a CB and a LB despite spending 160m on maguire, Shaw and AWB
If we had 300m to spend then by all means get Graelish and Sancho. Unfortunately we don't
A proper professional statement not using third party. Ed is expecting Dortmund be more professional since they are a proper professional club not amateur sunday league football club.
He's the same guy who reported we'd agreed personal terms with Sancho a week ago. Wouldn't take his word as gospel.
The personal terms according to him I think, and others, were never a problem though - we should be fine on that.
"Directly".
Must be your first rodeo. Just ignore the thread and we'll see you in October.
Here's an idea, if you don't believe it to be happening....don't post in the thread? Also don't believe everything you read, or you'll go crazy.
I tell you what. Anyone who wants the thread closing.. Just don't come in... Stop being so bloody pessimistic. We're still in negotiations (confirmed by club briefs) for one of the best young players in the world. Will undoubtedly be the biggest deal of the window and one of the biggest deals of all time. It's not going to be straightforward. It also sounds like Dortmund are slowing negotiations down, so why are United getting so much grief?
All this fecking doom mongering is so irritating. Was exactly the same in the 'Top 4 Race' thread. Always predicting the worst and bashing the club.. Lighten the feck up.
All this fecking doom mongering is so irritating. Was exactly the same in the 'Top 4 Race' thread. Always predicting the worst and bashing the club.. Lighten the feck up.
We were strongly linked with Dybala, Griezmann and Eriksen too, none of which are Norwegian or English.
Care to share these "reports"?
Could be a double bluff.
At this point if I were Ed and the deal was dead, I would let other clubs think we are having to spend big to get this Sancho deal over the line in the hope we could screw other clubs down a bit for other players
Yeah, we definitely didn’t though. The Journo your referring to is getting duff info from Dortmund.
The one thing you are guaranteed at United, even the tea ladies and cleaners, is a pay rise when signing for the club.
Shaw was signed like 5 years ago, Maguire and AWB have been a success overall in their first season here. Bruno like I mentioned worked out for us, so I don't know how that's ironic. But again, my point was signing from outside PL is always more risky than from inside PL. So in the situation where we wanted to be risk-averse, we went for PL experienced players. We can take in European talents when we are at a stage where we can take risks.
I need this transfer to happen. Sancho at United is something I want to inject in my veins.
You'd have to indulge in obscenely high levels of gullibility to buy the the pay-cut tweet.
You trash your reputation to create pressure on someone while also letting them know that there is no deadline?
I think people are too concerened with sinister PR games. Why would Woodward care what people think for a newscycle in August, it's the end result of the window that he and the club will eventually be judged on.
Dortmund didn't just accept the first good offer for Dembele and Aubameyang either, both players had to cause considerable disruption before they reconsidered.
Off to the bookies with you so plan It’s 5/4 for that to happen lump on!
The old classic. If she says no to your proposal means she actually loves you.
There’s no evidence of a third party been used.
I never know what the hell this guy is on about
Exactly. Its like this is reverse psychology now. As if our heads weren't screwed enough with all the conflicting reports
At this point if Jadon came out and said "I can't wait to join up with my new Manchester United team mates" we'd get people saying "ha! I knew he didn't want to come. All this time we've wasted chasing him when we could've been in for Grealish"
This guy at least makes sense.
A public statement from Sancho would put this saga to bed once and for all. That he chooses not to do so gives me hope.
Is today Sancho day?
Also. 666 pages
Also. 666 pages
It kind of is considering we spent 150m on 3 players who are nowhere near to WC. So let's spend money on talent rather then on nationality and EPl experience shall we?
Let’s just give Dortmund what they want, straight swap Lingard for Sancho.
I feel exactly the same. Lockdown football is shit. It’s why Liverpool’s success is so tainted
Dont say things like that...Could be a double bluff.
At this point if I were Ed and the deal was dead, I would let other clubs think we are having to spend big to get this Sancho deal over the line in the hope we could screw other clubs down a bit for other players
You clearly haven`t been following things. That extension was activated last year but made public this year it was not activated this year. Utd and others involved in the deal definitely knew this behind the scenes it changes absolutely nothing as Utd still have to pay up regardless and if they do BVB will sell. if the extension was something hugely significant we`d have walked.
And BVB would only benefit from selling next year if there is a vaccine and if fans are allowed back into the stadiums but that`s up in the air if things stay as they are come next year not even us will be able to afford Sancho cause every club will be skint so BVB will be forced into having to sell him for a cut price fee in 2021 cause clubs will still be recovering from the pandemic therefore unable to afford big fees immediately and he`ll only have one year left on his deal so no chance they get a big fee then. This year is the ONLY time a big fee is GUARANTEED. If we pay up they will sell all this noise from Zorc is professional posturing and brinkmanship.
Sancho wants to leave Germany and return to England full time.
This is the whole reason the transfer is actually going to happen in the first place, people forget that.
Sancho doesn't want to leave Dortmund because he doesn't enjoy the club or the football, he wants to come home to England.
He won't come out and publically slag Dortmund off, but he does want to come home, and United are trying to give him that opportunity.
He will smartly just continue as normal, if the transfer happens i'm sure he will be delighted, if it doesn't he will keep doing what he's been doing and i'm sure Dortmund will do something to keep him happy like more trips home etc.
Anyway I suspect it will get done as Dortmund know he wants to leave, they just want the maximum amount of money. I think United will cave eventually as it's more risk to us losing out on him, and Ole doesn't deserve to have another shite window.
I doubt we'll see a public statement from Sancho one way or the other.
I don't think he's so desperate to join us that he'll risk jeopardising his relationship with Dortmund by trying to force the move (ala Dembele) only for it not to materialise. Another season at Dortmund where he can continue to develop as a 20 year old won't be the worst thing and he'll likely have more suitors next summer anyway.
I also don't see him issuing a statement to say he wants to stay at Dortmund unless we pull the plug on the deal because we can't agree a fee. If he had no interest in moving by now this saga would have been put to bed weeks ago.
I don't think he's so desperate to join us that he'll risk jeopardising his relationship with Dortmund by trying to force the move (ala Dembele) only for it not to materialise. Another season at Dortmund where he can continue to develop as a 20 year old won't be the worst thing and he'll likely have more suitors next summer anyway.
I also don't see him issuing a statement to say he wants to stay at Dortmund unless we pull the plug on the deal because we can't agree a fee. If he had no interest in moving by now this saga would have been put to bed weeks ago.
Using "social media" & "journalist" is third party. Better inform Ed or Manchester United directly if they want a certain deadline.
The numbers suggest you are correct with goals scored and assists but if Sancho is ruled out would we wise to go for Harvertz or wait until next season? We are in dire need for at least three positions on the team; I don't see it happening if we get Sancho as the club is going to lose a lot money due to the corona virus.
I come here for you.
You're pedalling the positive news as though its gospel. I just want to be here when reality sets in and see the fallout of how amateurish we've been once again, because unlike others, I've not forgot about how shit a job Woodward has done or how it was universally accepted on here that we need a DoF. Where's all those people gone that were rampant for us to bring one in? They're strung along by the PR department into forgetting about all the bad stuff, whilst in the meantime we wallow as a second rate team.
I can't believe I'm going to waste a post to point out that we're on 666 pages
This deal will happen, it's not like we're going to the supermarket to top up on bread and milk. Patience lads.
This deal will happen, it's not like we're going to the supermarket to top up on bread and milk. Patience lads.
I don't know what you don't understand with what I'm saying.
Right now/A year ago:
United -> don't want to take risks -> sign less risky options
A year from now (with more settled squad):
United -> ability to take risks -> sign more risky options
We have been burned quite a few times in the last few years with signings from outside Pl, so its natural to consider them more risky to move in the other direction for now. And its usually the case for PL as well esp. the first season.
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