Dortmund have done this before. There is no yes butting this away.
Sancho is refusing to say he will stay. Superficial speeches like this doesn't mean thst much.
Honestly mate, there is no chance the market is going to recover that quickly. I know you think differently but people need to realise football is not immune to economics.
Jesus fecking christ the naivity of some people.
Which has nothing to do with my post?
I thought you meant Marco Lichesteiner
Is that you Ed ?
Now look at the transfer fees so far and see if it reflects this at all
Well the market has collapsed with 2 months of the season left affected by the virus so feck knows what will happen with 4 or 5 of
Football was halted in March because of it so thats 2 months of the season affected and finacial disaster looms large.Jesus fecking christ the naivity of some people.
Even if there's a vaccine ready in the early months of 21 and thanks to magic it's instantly distributed to the rest of the world, the market isn't going to change over night and cash flow isn't going to instantly be back to the same levels and replace almost 12 months of lost income.
We're talking a pretty hefty downward spiral for 12 months and everything is expected to be booming a few months after a vaccine
I agree, however I also think the moment a reliable vaccine is produced that it will loosen the purse strings somewhat, with the big clubs seeing an end in sight for empty stadia.Jesus fecking christ the naivity of some people.
Even if there's a vaccine ready in the early months of 21 and thanks to magic it's instantly distributed to the rest of the world, the market isn't going to change over night and cash flow isn't going to instantly be back to the same levels and replace almost 12 months of lost income.
We're talking a pretty hefty downward spiral for 12 months and everything is expected to be booming a few months after a vaccine
speaking directly to BVB TV? I'm not sure what else you expect him to say.
So anyone who's against being hold to ransom by Dortmund is Ed now? Petty attempt at being funny...
Ake was overpriced, but i feel we contributed to that a lot with Maguire purchase. But then again Ziyech, Werner, Torres all went for reasonable price.
Which is why we are negotiating at the moment , also if you can see how badly needed we need Sancho for RW you should take up a different sport.
It'll certainly make life easier, but it doesn't account for lost revenue. There's also the potential issues related to the TV deal and general sponsorship agreements...It's pretty fecking naive to believe that we'll instantly be back at the point we were at during christmas 2019.
Ziyech was done before COVID, Werner had a buyout and Torres was in the last year of his contract at a club having to sell half their team to survive the impact of COVID. It’s really hard to gauge the post-pandemic transfer world at the moment as the sample size is too small.
In the transfer market that saw Dembele moving clubs for 140m, Sancho would be easily worth 170. Sancho is better and British, after all. So 120m is not the price in a market flooded with money.
There are a few factors affecting the income right now. First and foremost, empty stadiums. Smaller clubs are affected more seriously by that since incomes through ticketing make up a smaller share of the revenue of the elite. Then there's also the fact that fans right now have less money at there disposal which is obviously affecting merchandising sales. And third, there are less European cup games to be played, leading to a decrease of broadcasting revenues.
Cute, another attempt at being funny, eh? Shame we're not in the classroom where this could pass and draw some laugh.
Ziyech was signed way before the Pandemic.
I agree with you, we aren't far apart on that one. Thing is, I believe he'd need to force his way out in order to make this deal happen as of now. Dortmund have gone too far to swallow their own statements now if the player doesn't go into rebellion mode - and those quotes aren't suggesting that at all.
Yeah I agree. Just think some of the bigger state backed clubs will just carry on as normal and take the hit once they have an end in sight.
Ziyech being done pre covid19 and Werner having that clause pre covid19 only strengthens my point. Those are the prices that were asked prior to clubs losing a lot of money due to pandemic. €120m for Sancho during the pandemic is a lot.
We'll see. Currently, the incomes of top clubs seem to be enough to cover the ongoing expenditures and still see through transfers of around 50-70m € since none are in existential crises. Let the incomes through ticketing return and this equals another 100m in revenue. I mean, I'm open to change my opinion on that but I currently can't see why this shouldn't be possible. United itself seems to be willing to pay up to 70/80m. You don't think when spectators are allowed in stadiums again that this could enable you to spend an additional 50m on transfers?
This is it. There's been a lot of chests puffed and bullishness in the media from Dortmund's side, yet none of it has been from Sancho. It would've been very easy for this to be put to bed by Sancho making a statement that he intends to stay. The fact we're getting all this bluster without any definitive statement would suggest Dortmund are either worried that he'll still go, or they have already accepted it and are just trying to squeeze out an extra few quid.
I agree, it hasn’t seen a major impact on player value.
How are examples pre covid19 not valid? Those prices were paid pre covid19, and they would look reasonable during the pandemic as well.
Jesus fecking christ the naivity of some people.
Even if there's a vaccine ready in the early months of 21 and thanks to magic it's instantly distributed to the rest of the world, the market isn't going to change over night and cash flow isn't going to instantly be back to the same levels and replace almost 12 months of lost income.
We're talking a pretty hefty downward spiral for 12 months and everything is expected to be booming a few months after a vaccine
Buhahahah.
You're talking about a market that had full stadiums week in week out before a pandemic. There isn't the same amount of money in the market anymore, regardless of who went for what years ago.
It doesn't. First because Dortmund are a wealthier club which is the main thing that will determine a player's fee, outside of his contract and his level. Dortmund will hold for more money because they can, Ajax aren't as wealthy as Dortmund and Werner joined an intermediary club like Leipzig because he could get a low-ish clause. You can't extrapolates fees without putting them strictly into context which means taking into account the club they are playing for.
I'm not sure if you are joking or not.
did you miss the bit where Dortmund set a deadline?
I think this situation demonstrates how brittle the finances of football clubs are. Utd may be better placed than most but market prices represent the ability of the majority - and most clubs are definitely in a harder position than Utd.
I think he's more than happy with Ole's project. I think he understands that in this climate 100 million plus is a lot of money for any club to pay out and as a result he isn't kicking up a fuss.All the noise suggests he wants to come back home.
You do understand that this statement says a lot more about you being a deluded .....
