Weren't Aubameyang and Miki in the last year of their contracts?
He’s happy to stay though, it’s been all over the press from the Dortmund end.
Yeah, exactly. It was purely hypothetical, hence why i wrote that all signs indicate that he's happy to stay there for another year in one of me previous comments.
No, to be correct, they entertained it, and that time passed. Or to be more precise, just said public how much they would want for him if someone would want buying him and what would be the deadline for it. Now they are entertaining the fact, that Sanchos will be at Dortmund for sure at least for the next season. But you choose to ignore it, or spinning this around with not fitting examples of the past.
Theres zero indication that Dortmund have officially closed the door. If they had then Woody would‘ve briefed all the English journos getting his excuses in. He does it every time. We’d also be trying to sign other players.
Given the quality of your posts i figured the probability of you understanding a point would be slim, at best. Obviously i can't be bothered to actually go over it.Sorry Uncle Bob, please remind me again which point I missed last time? I don't even recognise you as a poster.
The point was clearly 'United will be ok regardless of not signing a big name player.' Yes, ok, perhaps we will.
Perhaps, however, we don't do as well as this season, struggle to make top four, Ole get's the sack, we start the merry dance of the last 6 years again. The latter never being a possibility under SAF.
That sound inconceivable to you Uncle Bob?
More money than what? more than what we're offering or what they're asking?
Football landscape is completely different now. United are not the force we used to be. I also feel there's a smaller pool of talent and heightened competition for it from top clubs. Missing out on players like Sancho currently is not the same as it was when we had arguably the best football manager of all time. This would be a big miss and not amount of "we missed out on players before" will soften it. For me at least.
Does seem like what would provide a hilarious timeline of events from a Dortmund fan's perspective!I) Dortmund and Sancho probably had an agreement for this summer - apparently that he can leave if someone offers €120m before their pre-season heats up
Its abit suspicious that he hasnt said himself though.
Of course they’re bluffing. If they’d closed negotiations Woody would have briefed the English press and you’d get them reporting his spin in unison. It happens every time. As I mentioned previously we’d be trying to sign other players as well.
I'd make one addition/edit for point III - last summer no one knew that pandemic was going to happen. So pre-covid, €120m may have been acceptable, however, things obviously changed. So I guess United are probably low balling too much and a compromise will need to be met...more favourable on the sellers part.
People understand the financial reality of having to compete with €600m-700m annual revenue clubs on €350-400m annual revenue. Fans understand that the club can't buy the finished article or offer their best players competitive wages, because of this financial disadvantage and thus accept that the only way to progress is in a one step backwards two steps forward kind of way.
What's the fan view from Dortmund though? I.e. considering it's a known business model for the club suits, what's the fan viewpoint? Do you guys get concerned when there's interest in your best players, and does it rankle with you guys when they leave?
Or is it a model you're mostly bought into, so you're not really bothered and basically just turn your attention to what new shiny young players could be arriving as a result?
I get the sense that Dortmund fans are not too bothered, unlike a behemoth like United where the only person who's left in recent times that we really wanted to keep was Ronaldo, and it's still raw for a lot of fans.
(Di Maria was not the same situation, but I suppose fans would've wanted him to stay if he didn't down tools.)
Who knows, there were reports about Dortmund demanding €150m+ before the pandemic, maybe the €120m already includes a hefty discount.
Fair enough if you believe that, I won't argue with it. But I personally don't believe Woodward or United would just readily admit if they had misjudged Dortmund's determination regarding the deadline or their ability to refuse a sale.
Well it's clear I understood the point and pointed out that you actually missed the more relevant point that our manager and standing in the game currently do not match that of the times when we were trying to sign said players.
Keep on pretending.
Why the feck would we admit that. We'll just brief that Dortmund were unwilling to discuss fees in relation to the covid-19 crisis and that their valuation was completely unrealistic.
Because it doesn't need much to connect the dots when you call off a transfer on the day a deadline has passed that you called artificial and a bluff.
We would've already released info to the press that we are not interested etc. That's what we usually do.
How are they going to afford to buy him? Who they selling?
It would literally change feck all.....Even if the deadline exists and we fecked up by not believing it, we'd simply release via journalists that you set a deadline with an unrealistic fee, that we tried to negotiate a deal that could work for both parties but Dortmund were unwilling to budge on their valuation. Simples and perfectly understandable.
It's like Howard Nurse is a shy fella who gets scared very easily if you mug him off
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What? For having an opinion that's different to yours? Isn't that what a forum is for?
The fact that BVB keep talking about it, and united have not actually said a word at all is a sign that there is clearly still things happening. Even Sanchos comment is quite inconsequential.
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Sorry for not being the toppest or reddest. To say United aren't the pull they once were is hardly a stretch though, is it? Have you watched them for the past 7 years or so? How many of the best players in the world will think "ooh yeah... i will have me some of that!"?
They’re trying to push him into saying he’s staying publicly or force a move. They don’t want this to drag on all summer.
Can we stop doing this on a daily basis ? It’s over once United clearly state through the media it’s over. Dortmund are coming across as very insecure, they can’t stop talking about it. The fact we are not even linked to another RW is a clear sign we are still in this. It’s our most glaring hole in our starting 11.
He'll join Stevenage Borough next summer
Virtually all I would assume. Last I checked we had the third largest fan base in the world. Most players would happily play on that stage.
Look at who posted it, he’s desperate for it not to happen.
