[always_hoping]

Not really. They wernt great. No better than the The team we faced with Mourinho team 2 years ago.

OGS for his tactics right, simply our forwards were not clinical enough and we had one moment of horrible defensive organisation.

Reality is we threw this opportunity away.

They are better now, Sevilla were the 7th best team in Spain 2 years ago and weren't on a long unbeaten run. United lets not forget finished 2nd that season also and the 2-1 defeat was in front of packed Old Trafford.

Both goals conceded was down to poor defensively play neither should have been conceded at all. Should really be talking about a 1-0 United win now and wondering how it wasn't at least 3-0 with the amount of good chances that was either blocked by Sevilla defenders or saves by their keeper.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Just my opinion but I don’t think they are a very good side. They are Wolves level.

Whilst I’m not one who thinks we should be winning the league and am very happy with OGS and our teams evolution, post Bruno, we should beat teams like this. They are at the top end of ordinary but Nothing More.

As I said, I was confident we would beat them but expected a tough game... Wolves level? We have a tendency to struggle against them so maybe a poor comparison.

 

[sammsky1]

As I said, I was confident we would beat them but expected a tough game... Wolves level? We have a tendency to struggle against them so maybe a poor comparison.

Ha! Probably why we lost!

 

[SambaBoy]

Can't compare it to the CL game against them. At least we went for the win today, instead of playing for a draw. On another day, we would have scored 3 or 4. We limited Seville to 2-3 chances and apart from a 20minute spell, we were much the better team. These games happen in knockout competitions. Yes we should be beating a team like Sevilla, but there no push over and can punish teams if you don't take your chances.

 

[Ali Salman Khan]

Ole should have taken Rashford off before the half time? How come he did not play Matic? Ole is a really bad coach. it s not his fault if the forwards miss simple goals but his fault lies in the fact that he chose to start with them

 

[The Viper]

The way we lose the ball everytime is comical. Whenever we are required to capitalise on their miss pass or error, we end up giving the ball back to them. This has been the case for a long time now.

 

[manunited1919]

AWB, 50M spent, brilliant defender but cannot attack to save his life. Looks awkward with the ball, bad decision making and even worse delivery. I potentially could see him at CB but I would question his ariel ability and positioning in the middle.

Maguire, 80m spent, decent player, shows some leadership but is consistently prone to school boy errors. I like him but I do not think we should build a squad around him, mot entirely convinced that he should be our captain, is incredibly slow and has agility like a tank and needs someone fast next to him to cover up his mistakes.

James, great start to his career, got found out quick. Needs space to run into, which he will not get at the top level. Very poor decision making at times, average delivery and is very selfish a she prefers to shoot rather than find the right pass to someone in a much better position. I think he was massively overplayed due to the lack of quality this squad has, i think year two is big for him.

Obsession with Lingard and Andreas led to the loss of one of the best youth players we have had in a while, Gomes. Imagine your are bossing the reserves and under 18s, you did well in pre-season and then request a loan move to progress. Then Imagine your manager says no. I dont blame the boy for leaving.

Ole has done good with Greenwood, his management of him has been exceptional but I am concerned that since restart, his ego is growing and he is getting too comfortable starting. He will be an incredible player and I believe Ole has been a major part of that.

Tactical failures, very often does not use his subs, does not change tactics, played Pogba deep for months as a holding midfielder and in two semifinals, instead of going for it, made his subs at 85 mins. I do not trust Ole to change a game, this is not football manager.

I want to see him backed but i really do not have faith in his execution. Saying that, he has shown some balls innthe last 18months but he is 100%, not a top club manager.

In January before Bruno came in, we were dire and Ole was a dead man walking. All of a suffered, Bruno came in and Greenwood starts scoring for fun, and we now look like a real team. We have had real progress this season, but obviously we need to invest in the squad to improve. Ole is a young manager. With one or two good options on the bench, perhaps he too can step up and have better game management.

 

[ExoduS]

I just wish that a player or two start average and become exceptional - not the other way around ! I cant take it anymore with players coming and showing tremendous potential and then just become average.

We played ok today and were a better team but there was never any high potency in our team. C+ performance.

 

[big rons sovereign]

Feel like we've been here before, only this time it's more arsenal in 05 rather than Sevilla a couple of years back.
Progress has clearly been made from the mess Jose left us in, but the same silly things keep happening.
Lindelof is still doing lindelof, AWB seems to be in a daze and I swear I can't cope with seeing Maguire balloon corners over the bar anymore, it's getting to the point where I just don't watch them.
Still, at least they'll get a little bit of a pre season, or not, I don't even know anymore.

 

[Moiraine]

Reasons for the loss, in order:

1: Officiating, consciously and indirectly. Carlos red card, at least 1 other penalty, and so much more wrong. I would have put it at 2, but it was that bad it squeaks into first.

2: Extremely wasteful finishing. Unfortunate at times, but ultimately wasteful.

3: FBs lack of awareness in CB positional covering requirements.

4: Ole and subs



It is not possible to prevail given the sheer amount of things going against our cause in one match.



Give it one more year of building and the team will have more confidence, more composure, and greater experience in these situations.

Good postmortem

 

[manunited1919]

Ole should have taken Rashford off before the half time? How come he did not play Matic? Ole is a really bad coach. it s not his fault if the forwards miss simple goals but his fault lies in the fact that he chose to start with them

Take Rashford off, yes. But who do you put into the game instead of Rashford? Lindgard who can’t control the ball? Mata who isn’t a LW? Or, do you stick with your best 11 when there’s a drop off in quality between those on the field and the bench?

 

[MikeeMike]

Best performance in ages. Finishing was woeful and we can’t rely on our defenders when they get their only chance of the half.

All in all promising but hard to take. At least it’s only the Europa cup. This team seems to be missing a backbone.

Bring on next season and please a new centre half.

Sums it up for me. Everyone jumping on shocking defending for 2nd goal.

Really Fred wide open and shocking
Greenwood not cutting back for Pogba.

 

[WR10]

Rashford needs to drop the ego now. He’s shite but strolls around like his knuckleball deserves respect. Finish your chances kids otherwise you’re nothing but a highlight reel

 

[K_Ash]

With Rash not performing...moving to a diamond midfield would have worked to keep Paul and Bruno higher off the pitch...

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

We don't need a centre half lads cos we have the bestest defence in the league. or 2nd or something.

 

[Snuffkin]

They bullied us all over the park. Williams , awb and fred in particular. We need to think about the full back situation.

 

[Ali Salman Khan]

Take Rashford off, yes. But who do you put into the game instead of Rashford? Lindgard who can’t control the ball? Mata who isn’t a LW? Or, do you stick with your best 11 when there’s a drop off in quality between those on the field and the bench?

If you remember the first few matches, he played James on the left wing, he would cut in and score goals. All of a sudden, Rashford started to play on that wing. James was never considered for that wing.
Some interesting examples: Sane (right footed and plays on left wing - better than Sterling by miles), Silva (left footed and plays on the right wing), Messi, Robben, even CR7 switched wings when he joined Real Madrid. Hope you remember Ribery? the fact is - Ole is a dumb coach. We need a better tactician who should not pick players because of their off the field achievements.

 

[Bastian]

It was an absolutely absorbing match. That being said, I thought Sevilla were absolutely pathetic with their play acting all over the pitch and the ref was lenient with them when they should have been booked for cynical or dirty fouls too.

This will be a huge lesson to a young team, you play in Europe and at times you come up against absolute cnuts.

I have no respect for them as a club and I hope whoever goes through tomorrow smashes them physically and wins the trophy.

 

[Reiver]

I think the overall performance was quite good, finishing and some poor defending aside.
After we went a goal down, I really felt we missed some good leadership on the pitch and this is something I'm feeling more often.

 

[tentan]

Average team.

 

[SmashedHombre]

We were poor, Ole clearly doesn't trust a single one of our backup players and Sevilla are the biggest bunch of whiney shithouses we've played against in some time. Surprsingly unbothered though, at least now the players can get a break period and this horrible season can end.

 

[Bullhitter]

Christ, you've had a couple of mares on here recently but this takes the cake yeah, the United players were the ones constantly play acting and diving you're a WUM, clear as day. I'll be sure to keep you on ignore as I should after your shocker in the Tranfer Tweets thread.

Oh Sevilla were at it too, doesn't mean United weren't.

 

[FizzyWomack]

Maguire REALLY needs to hit the target from those corners we are putting on his head,every game he gets at least one chance from a corner,just hit the target mate seriously.

The only positive from this is a bit more rest.

Oh Sevilla were at it too, doesn't mean United weren't.

Have to agree with you here. Williams was rolling around on more than one occasion. Embarrassing!

 

[Raoul]

Tonight exposed how a well coached team with squad solidarity can punch above their collective weight and beat a team with high profile players on massive wages. Ole needs to learn from this if he wants to stay for more than another year.

 

[Bastian]

Oh Sevilla were at it too, doesn't mean United weren't.

Rewatch the match. Williams does it twice, and Mason makes one educated move in a 50/50 to win a foul. They were rolling all over the pitch, Banega that little cnut was waving for yellow cards with his resting cry-face, even their potato sack cod-faced manager was waving for yellow cards. Absolute cnuts the lot of them.

They were extremely fortunate to go through.

 

[big rons sovereign]

Reasons for the loss, in order:

1: Officiating, consciously and indirectly. Carlos red card, at least 1 other penalty, and so much more wrong. I would have put it at 2, but it was that bad it squeaks into first.

2: Extremely wasteful finishing. Unfortunate at times, but ultimately wasteful.

3: FBs lack of awareness in CB positional covering requirements.

4: Ole and subs



It is not possible to prevail given the sheer amount of things going against our cause in one match.



Give it one more year of building and the team will have more confidence, more composure, and greater experience in these situations.

What should Carlos have been off for?
I missed about ten mins of the game.

 

[Mindhunter]

Tonight exposed how a well coached team with squad solidarity can punch above their collective weight and beat a team with high profile players on massive wages. Ole needs to learn from this if he wants to stay for more than another year.

More like how a well coached team can beat a team with high profile players on massive wages when they are lucky and the said players suddenly look incapable of finishing the clearest of chances.

It was inevitable that they would score after we failed to capitalize on our chances in the second half. We did play well but our defense leaked easy goals for nothing.

 

[croadyman]

I know it's stating the bleeding obvious but you can afford the odd defensive lapse in concentration if you are clinical at the other end, however if you are wasteful then it is absolutely paramount you have to be defensively solid and we were found wanting in that department.

 

[Bullhitter]

Rewatch the match. Williams does it twice, and Mason makes one educated move in a 50/50 to win a foul. They were rolling all over the pitch, Banega that little cnut was waving for yellow cards with his resting cry-face, even their potato sack cod-faced manager was waving for yellow cards. Absolute cnuts the lot of them.

They were extremely fortunate to go through.

So you agree with me basically. If this were a Sevilla forum i'd say the same of their players.

 

[monosierra]

Why are OGS's teams so ... streaky? They play phenomenally for a run of 10 to 14 games or so and then fall away badly.

 

[manunited1919]

If you remember the first few matches, he played James on the left wing, he would cut in and score goals. All of a sudden, Rashford started to play on that wing. James was never considered for that wing.
Some interesting examples: Sane (right footed and plays on left wing - better than Sterling by miles), Silva (left footed and plays on the right wing), Messi, Robben, even CR7 switched wings when he joined Real Madrid. Hope you remember Ribery? the fact is - Ole is a dumb coach. We need a better tactician who should not pick players because of their off the field achievements.

If we had players of the level of Ribbery, Sane, Silva, etc sitting in our bench, then yeah Ole would need to make that change. But the drop in quality between an off-the-pace Rashford and James is huge. James main attribute is speed, which isn’t a great attribute to bring into a game where the opponent has a well organized defense.

The truth is we were creating chances, the team played well, but we missed the best scoring opportunities. Our defense allowed them to score on the few opportunities they had. It happens, but it’s not due to bad in-game management.

 

[manunited1919]

Only if he shows that aggression during defending...

At least he’s not a complete wussy.

 

[mazhar13]

What we really need is a RB who can also provide a threat. And defend well without constantly lunging.

With the way we currently play, we get the majority of our width from our attacking players. Having said that, if Wan-Bissaka does improve offensively (and he does have the potential given some good moments + assists from the right wing), I can see us relying less on an attacking player to provide some width.

Defensively, I don't see an issue with his "lunges". They're quite calculated, and there was only one foul that he conceded because of it. People used to praise him for exactly those actions.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

They bullied us all over the park. Williams , awb and fred in particular. We need to think about the full back situation.

Do you think that? I don’t think we got bullied at all. Fred was winning the ball back consistently for us. I don’t think our physicality was a problem tonight.

 

[gerdm07]

Is it just me that was watching thinking I wouldn't actually change anything? Apart from maybe taking Rashford off and putting one of our painfully average subs on earlier.

Our bench offers nothing.

That's what I saw. We created some really good chances and just couldn't score. Then we tired.

I would have taken off Rashford at 60'. I hate to say this but he looks like an amateur player posing as a professional. I actually think James would have been more effective than Rashford and I'm not a fan of James. Every time he touched the ball I felt he was going to lose it unless he passed it back.

We made 3rd and CL so let's move on and get some players for the next campaign. With some improvement we could play some good football next year and hopefully be in the title hunt until February.

 

[RedDevil@84]

They bullied us all over the park. Williams , awb and fred in particular. We need to think about the full back situation.

They ran through our weak spots, but it was made easier because all we had to do is touch them and they would go sprawling, and in tears, waving imaginary cards at the ref, on every occasion.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

At least he’s not a complete wussy.

Err.. would you mind if I say you're wrong here?

 

[shazzmufc]

They bullied us all over the park. Williams , awb and fred in particular. We need to think about the full back situation.

Don't fully agree with this, especially in Fred's case. He looked sharp and energetic - felt he had a good performance overall.

 

[SilentStrike]

Typical game with Spanish teams.

Flopping all over the place with every touch, waving imaginary cards.

 

[meamth]

If we had Shaw, things would end differently.

Shaw would never be beaten like that for the 2nd goal.