I think Dean is actually a very good thrower, not sure. But I remember one game when he made strong one for counter.
Dean Henderson warning to David De Gea - I came back to Manchester United to take your place
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I think Dean is actually a very good thrower, not sure. But I remember one game when he made strong one for counter.
That’s an excellent mentality to have to play for Man United but i hope he talks as loud in his penalty box to his defenders as in such interviews. Would be great to have a vocal goalkeeper once again
Perfect mentality to have. Either way, someone is going to be pushed to get better.
I hope he walks the talk and not just be like Lukaku. De Gea has been comfortable for too long, as he knew that he would be always be our no 1 goalkeeper with Romero just contented to be his sidekick. Hopefully this gives De Gea a kick up his arse to step up his game.
Chill kid, it's when you don the jersey and carry the responsibility week in week out, That's when it matters the most.
He could still either be the next Ben Foster, or the next GK great.
He could still either be the next Ben Foster, or the next GK great.
De Gea’ issues aren’t down to needing a kick up the arse or competition. He’s a consummate professional. It’s either a mental Issue or physical decline. Be interesting how Ole handles it and if he’s willing to drop Dave if he continues with the random errors.
Ridiculous we make him 4th best paid keeper in the league.. this battle it out for starting spot thing doesn't really work well with keepers, DDG will be more nervous than before, Henderson will be super nervous when gets a nod over DDG, just can't see it going well, are we going to bench DDG?
Does he come for crosses and corners?
It won’t take him long
Wonder how soon the caf will turn against him.
I expect him to show both zeal attitude and making mistakes on the pitch.
Other showing what he's good at, surely he have a lot of weaknesses.
I expect him to show both zeal attitude and making mistakes on the pitch.
Other showing what he's good at, surely he have a lot of weaknesses.
How aggressive is he coming off his line? For example, coming to clear long balls over the top of CBs and also coming for crosses. I've seen a bit of it from the games I've seen but ones who have seen him consistently might know better. I think this quality gives the defense confidence to play a higher line even with slower CBs when we push up to press in the opposition half, and ofcourse in crosses and set pieces.
Unless you have a goalkeeper retiring, or your previous goalkeeper is a total calamity, there isn’t an easy way to change goalkeepers unfortunately. We’ve been lucky to have stability with De Gea for some time now, but that had to change eventually.
9 years ago...
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/14919809#:~:text=Anders Lindegaard has said that,one spot at Manchester United.&text=I'm not here to,'t save the goal."
When asked whether he was targeting a first-team spot, Lindegaard replied: "What do you expect me to answer? I'm not here to pick my nose.
The game's other main talking point was Lindegaard's performance, which certainly puts further pressure on summer signing De Gea. The Spaniard came in for some heavy criticism after a shaky start to his Old Trafford career.
But United boss Sir Alex Ferguson insists De Gea will be restored to his team against Chelsea.
And Ferguson reacted angrily to questions posed by Kelly Cates, daughter of Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish, about his goalkeeping dilemmas.
"David de Gea will play on Sunday," he told ITV Sport after the match. "I don't know why you ask these questions.
"You're just looking for stupid, little things."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/14919809#:~:text=Anders Lindegaard has said that,one spot at Manchester United.&text=I'm not here to,'t save the goal."
When asked whether he was targeting a first-team spot, Lindegaard replied: "What do you expect me to answer? I'm not here to pick my nose.
The game's other main talking point was Lindegaard's performance, which certainly puts further pressure on summer signing De Gea. The Spaniard came in for some heavy criticism after a shaky start to his Old Trafford career.
But United boss Sir Alex Ferguson insists De Gea will be restored to his team against Chelsea.
And Ferguson reacted angrily to questions posed by Kelly Cates, daughter of Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish, about his goalkeeping dilemmas.
"David de Gea will play on Sunday," he told ITV Sport after the match. "I don't know why you ask these questions.
"You're just looking for stupid, little things."
Given we made DDG the best paid keeper in the world I can't see us changing him (he's unsellable), I don't see the point with the Henderson contract. Do you think we will gradually start phasing DDG out (on 350k/week or whatever it is) this season?
Sheffield utd want him to stay, that's why they said he's not ready. I'm not trying to jinx him, but his juggling skills is pretty good for a GK, it's easy for him to learn short passes or even dribbling.
Mentality to play the ball at the back, great vision, communication, then trusting your teammates, that's what he should learned.
Giving him a new contract was clearly a mistake. Still, that doesn’t mean we should compound it by continuing to play him when there are better players around. His form should be the only factor that determines if he’s in the team or not.
Bottom line is you can’t have 2 quality keepers. One will eventually need to go.
And to pay them ~500k/week combined is pure madness, one is not playing most of the time
Yeah Im in the camp this is a bad idea. There are just so many points of failure. If De Gea plays brilliantly then Henderson will be pissed and want out next year. If Henderson plays well then De Gea will be pissed and want out. But neither one can ever be sold because no one will pay their wages.
We will be stuck with one pissed off keeper on super high wages next year no matter which way it goes. Only solution will be loan one but then we will be stuck without a good number 2 because our best ever number 2 Romero will be gone.
It feels like a double edged sword having 2 class keepers - actually 3 counting Romero. I hope it works out
*Edit - Thinking about it this could happen in the middle of the season. If Henderson is playing blinders, man of the match in the Cups whats to stop him, the press and everyone else calling for De Gea to be dropped even if he is not playing badly just not brilliantly. At what point do you drop De Gea. after 1 mistake your out? 2, 3? How many. And if you do drop him then how long does Henderson keep the number 1 jersey. What happens if he makes a mistake? Ole will need all his man management skills to pull this off.
We will be stuck with one pissed off keeper on super high wages next year no matter which way it goes. Only solution will be loan one but then we will be stuck without a good number 2 because our best ever number 2 Romero will be gone.
It feels like a double edged sword having 2 class keepers - actually 3 counting Romero. I hope it works out
*Edit - Thinking about it this could happen in the middle of the season. If Henderson is playing blinders, man of the match in the Cups whats to stop him, the press and everyone else calling for De Gea to be dropped even if he is not playing badly just not brilliantly. At what point do you drop De Gea. after 1 mistake your out? 2, 3? How many. And if you do drop him then how long does Henderson keep the number 1 jersey. What happens if he makes a mistake? Ole will need all his man management skills to pull this off.
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As I put above, this is a problem that every team faces when they transition goalkeepers. Unless we wait for De Gea to retire, or for him to get so terrible that no-one disagrees with him being dropped, these issues were always going to happen.
The alternative is just to sell De Gea outright and be done with it, avoid all the chopping and changing. I personally would have no problem with that approach but a) no-one would buy De Gea now anyway and b) fans would probably go nuts if we sold De Gea for a young inexperienced keeper.
Its not the same because we have 2 keepers on ridiculous wages meaning we cant get rid of either. Who will pay 350 a week for De Gea? No one.Who will pay 120 or whatever it is for an unproven goalkeeper in Henderson? No one. Well they might if he is playing brilliantly for us but then why would we sell him. If he doesnt do so well then who will pay for him? So no matter which way it goes we will have a keeper on super high wages on the bench and both are not Romero i.e. happy to be number 2. So a pissed off high paying keeper on the bench.
Agree we should have just made a decision and sold De Gea but as you say no one will buy him. And now no one will buy Henderson.
Giving De Gea that big contract was a mistake, but there's nothing we can do about that now, its done. We can't let on the pitch decisions be dictated by the size of De Gea's contract.
Agreed. No matter how much DDG earns, if he keeps making clangers (I’d drop him after the next one personally), Henderson has to step in. I don’t care if he earns £350K a week; Manchester United can afford to have him on the bench.
The problem with De Gea is that even if he gets close to his best and wins the battle for the number 1 spot this season, can we trust him to maintain his performances for years to come considering Henderson will very likely be sold the following summer?
Come on kid let's see what your are made of. I hope you really take his place by the end of the year.
I mean De Gea could accept a lower wage if he wants to keep playing elsewhere. His wife has pushed him to move back to Spain for years. He could be thinking I’ll earn £350k for a couple years and then move home having made my money and accept £100k to ply for Valencia or Seville or something.
I think we'll look to do exactly what you've said there - have De Gea start every league game and Henderson start every cup game. From memory that's how Barcelona handled the transition from Bravo to Ter Stegen. That way both they and the defenders know who will be playing each game ahead of time.
Hopefully De Gea steps up. A repeat of last years antics can’t be tolerated.
Courtois and Cech was similar too if I remember rightly.
Saying all the right things, and respectful of DDG.
Although saying Pickford Is a good keeper is a bit of a joke (although clearly he can’t say he’s been crap for 18 months).
Let the battle begin.
Am expecting Henderson to commit a few mistakes during his first few games, and I also fully expect the Caf to be full on calling for his head and selling him. 
No player has ever taken a 250k drop in wages. It will never happen.
At some point it will, lots of great players go on and finish playing at lesser clubs, on lower wages.
Good on him - but as we have CL football as opposed to the Europa i think he may have to wait for a few DDG mistakes or injuy to get any meaningful games - and if DDG produces good form then it will be interesting to see if his attitude is still the same in the winter or if hes the looking for a loan to get games and challenge for the england spot
De Gea has never been challenged really, except for a couple of games in his first season. Hope this changes next season.
Let's hope Atletico sold Oblak then. Oblak is on 300k/week, pretty sure they have no problem taking De Gea back with that wages.
The best scenario for next season if Henderson succeed:
Oblak > Chelsea 100 million
De Gea > Atletico 40 million
If De Gea succeed:
Henderson > Chelsea 50 million
Don't forget Chelsea are stuck with Kepa (worst than us), they will make a gamble with a cheaper GK. But it's a 50:50 situation.
It will depend on what he wants though. If he wants to move home then he will know it comes with smaller wages. He’ll have a choice between not playing and earning £18m a year vs being at home earning £5m a year. He’s already got +£50m in career earnings so it’s not really a financial concern to him.
Isnt Donnarumma in the last year of his contract? - would probably cost less than henderson is certainly more experienced, is younger and imo better - so thats got to be an options for them
Money. He wants money. 1st priority - Money. 2nd priority - Money. 3rd Priority - Bonus's. 4th Priority - Alternative sources of income. 5th Priority - Savings. If De Gea takes a 250k wage cut I will tatoo a penis on my head and walk around shouting Im a dick.
Should start the season with him, give him the chance from the start.
Can't see the point in waiting for DDG to make another mistake first.
Good luck to him.
Can't see the point in waiting for DDG to make another mistake first.
Good luck to him.